RE: Dunkel and Amber
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Hey I have been to both of those breweries!
I was never overly impressed with 4 Fathers beers I found on the shelf. Then, I visited the brewery!
Their brewing facility onsite at the relatively large taproom and restaurant was really neat. The variety of beers offered fresh on tap was impressive too.
Great malty and delicious looking beers there!
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It's always better in person right at the source. Always much fresher as well. I haven't tried any of their other beers. This is the first I've come across. I thought it was decent. Not amazing but I enjoyed it.