RE: Is Hive Watcher's doing a good job?
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I dont care what you doubt.
Thousandth time: I also do not like HW - since way too long
still, noone has a better idea in this great decentralized community
Have some other better idea - make the useful idiots germans join the anti-abuse effort
decentralize it
But if you all now just rage to abolish Hivewatchers, we will soon have the whole Steem Swamp here
And every scammer from the net
You guys need to imagine that we need to give good incentives, as a platform - not only for scammers and abusers
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That's the problem. You are advocating forcing people to act as you want them to. That is not freedom.
Freedom is allowing the market to give them something to care about. Allowing profiteering from curation rewards shows how this works, by creating incentives that have nothing to do with actual content to promote curation. When people gain upvotes for forthright speech they have a reason to care about forthright speech.
The problems of profiteering, circle jerks, spam, scams, and plagiarism, are all examples of how bad incentives are coded into Hive. A plutocracy creates incentives to seek money above all else. This deranges economic systems that we should want to float all the boats in the community, rather than rewarding pirates to take everything they can.
Hive needs to code incentives better, and eliminate incentives for malign action, like profiteering or pandering.
This is the solution to all the problems we face. We need to support free speech, and particularly criticism, because that is what makes free speech valuable to society. When we properly code incentives into Hive, we won't have to pay people to suppress bad actors, because people will defend Hive to defend their benefit from it.
People that gain nothing from Hive have no reason to defend it, so they don't. That is the problem.
This.
Eliminate the censorship ring that HW and Steemcleaners are paid to be. They're killing Hive daily.
Shut up
Stop spamming me with 1000000 comments
I find it funny you think they do anything now or will do anything in the future about it.
It is more about the outside look.
I find it funny how you think your marky bot will be a good sign for decentralized selfregulation.
How will the marky bot be different to HW?
I find it funny how everyone want to abolish HW and even just DOWNVOTING in general
And somultaneously do not want to do ANY effort for anti-abuse.
(Especially looking in the german direction)
All the best !
That's not applicable to Marky. He's a DV pro.
However, I don't think most DV's on the platform are flown on abusive posts and comments. Most of it is OPINION FLAGGING which is censorship of objectionable opinions - free speech. That's got to end, or it will end Hive. Instead of promoting flagging the bullies paying censors to police free speech should be defending it. I am not naming names, but there are less than 3 dozen possibilities with the stake to do this.
They do this, I believe, to retain control of the rewards pool and enrich themselves because if Hive became a good investment for outside capital they'd lose their command of the rewards pool, just as happened to Steem, and they are also profiting from Hive being a plutocracy. For these reasons they oppress free speech on Hive covertly, to keep it small enough they can dominate the rewards pool.
Someone that cares enough about money can find out who the likely culprits are. I know for a fact there are such quid pro quo arrangements, although I cannot name the culprits and only know of one of their minions for a fact, whom I will not name to protect my source.
Hive isn't dying. It's being killed for profit, and the killers have @'s.
First we abolish HW, then Downvoting in general - the decentralized self-regulating mechanism of this blockchain itself
you can team up with the germans
all the best !
You sir are a dumbass.
I dont care, abolish what you want - make your marky bot
abolish this platform
insult everyone who does not agree
that is how a decentralized community works for sure
hive probably already dead, so unimportant anyways
all the best
I still dont like you for downvoting my frens and me :D, but cudos for having the debate at least. Im getting cancer just scimming through parts of it.
I never once downvoted you, unless you are referring to an alt. You know full well your friends deserve it.
You reported me to leo.voter for not posting finance content in Leo, I wasnt aware. @alexvan tried to tell you but you insisted on me being fully awae of leo being a finance only community.
I checked the discord, but it is such an old and small thing Im not mad for it not being on your radar.
None of my friends ever deserve a downvote. @thegrandestine was doing interesting stuff until you flagged them off the platform, cause alts = evil...
Not sure who else we bumped heads over, I always confuse you and HW :3
Umm, ok. So I didn't flag you right? Just tried to keep the community on topic right?
The one with 30+ alts spamming images chain chatting with each alt? Wow, I'm such a jerk.
I have never been part of or supported Steam Cleaners or Hive Watchers. I always disagreed with their
Technically correct, but Im not sure if it isnt even worse, Herr Blockwart
The one who spend a few ten thousand $BEE to create dozens of Tokens and Diesel Pools. Im not sure if it all collapsed cause he was never serious from the start, you foiled his plans or too little people where interested in finding out about the deeper message of his game. I think it is somewhere between all three of them or maybe he will come back and conclude what he started.
Anyways the whole story shows me that you too downvote content you dont like and try to build justifications around it, just like HW.
To be fair the only time I encountered abuse, I called the authorities (HW) and they did their job. Im generally for a voluntary Scam/Abuse/indecent-content police, not the wild west method. Im just disappointed in the execution when you look into the details of the cases.
Im sure this line of work can cook your brains and as most veteran Hivians brains are fried hard already - I think you fare rather well all things considered.
So? That doesn't give him a license to spam garbage everywhere and farm rewards.
This is absolute garbage and a waste of space on the chain much less the Internet. There is no reason in the world this should be rewarded. This is a small sample of the thousands of occurrences I found his garbage.
Yes he did micro upvotes with his alts. The rewards he made from this are about 0.1% of what he put into the game.
It all boils down that you think his content is garbage. I would love to flag the things on hive that I think are garbage. I would downvote a post/comment of a whale every time he uses the word web3. Would be a fun world, but it is not the world we live in.
I honestly dont see how we can progress as a blockchain if we got some Boomers downvoting everything they think is garbage. Well maybe this is why hive seems stuck in 2018.
There is a difference between someone posting a real authentic comment with the word web3 and someone posting 1000 shitty automated comments that look like someone shit on the screen.
Boomer? LOL, alright bro we done. Go find someone else's shoulder to cry on.
HIVE IS DEAD
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[-]bpcvoter2 (-5)(1) 2 days ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
Team marky @gogreenbuddy part of the @markymark @buildawhale @usainvote @apeminingclub @makerhacks @upmyvote @punkteam @rollingbones @theycallmemarky @memess @blockheadgames @leovoter @ipromote gang
MARKY STOP THE DOWNVOTE ABUSE STOP SELF VOTING WITH ALL THESE ALT ACCOUNTS
You have a point.
you are an coward blind follower
a fascist
projecting hivewatcher crap onto old anti-abuse members (while you know I've been against hivewatcher since it inception)
you successfully hunted me off the platform (I am stopping all the support and will leave, as you want it)
and then go into victimhood
and claim about censorship, while I have no power to censor you
-> you dont even know what censorship is
dumbass