RE: Proof of Brain is Dead, Long Live Proof of Social-Value

"How do you determine that they are all owned by the ~36 whales?"

A whale told me they had over 10000 accounts. When you have enough stake you can claim account tokens. The whales claim almost all those tokens. Some of us buy some accounts in addition to our 'main' accounts, but this is a tiny fraction of the free accounts claimed by the whales.

"You can't determine who owns it if a bot is posting."

There are ways to detect AI, but they are subjective and becoming more difficult as AI gets better. However, there are several ways to identify unique individual people, and these can be employed to enable sorting people from bots. These mechanisms would have to be implemented on Hive to work, but that would make all those sock puppet accounts unable take rewards from the pool.

"You are just making arguments without any substantiating and I am refusing to entertain such arguments."

You have still not produced any quantification of any of your claims, yet you have the audacity to discount good faith attempts to quantify metrics on Hive and act as if your complete and utter failure to back up any claim you make with numbers is somehow a virtue. Refusing to entertain good faith arguments is deliberate ignorance, a sure sign of either the ignoramus' malicious intent to deceive, or incapacity to cope with reality. My reply here, therefore, is not intended to educate, correct, or persuade you of anything, but to show others you are either attempting to mislead them, and malicious, or completely incapable of useful understanding, and too stupid to provide beneficial direction.

"...Other than you giving up your biometric data..."

So you recognize there is at least one mechanism (there are more) by which people can be differentiated from bots. I mention hashing because then your biometric data isn't made available to anyone, only the hash of it, that takes the place of your biometric data without revealing it.

"Posted made up numbers. Anyone can post made up numbers."

You admit above I spoke truly about Holozor providing some numbers. I stated I used those, Arcange's monthly posts, and more, as input for my estimates. You may not agree with my extrapolations from those data, but that doesn't mean I made them up. You verified I didn't yourself, and say so. Estimates aren't just made up, they are best guesses based on available information. This shows you're lying here when you say I just made up numbers. You are a liar. Lying is deliberately misstating facts in order to deceive. This clearly demonstrates your intent to harm, to deceive with malice aforethought.

"...asking me to quantify something that isn't quantifiable is just dumb."

Since that's exactly what you're doing to me (you'll observe I responded to your demand for numbers with the statement 'you first'), you're not only a liar, you're a dumb liar, by your own standards. I noted you are either malicious or stupid, and here I must recognize you are both. Your malice is obvious, plainly displayed for all to see, and if you were clever you'd at least try to conceal your ill will and therefore deceive more victims, but you are clearly incapable of such cunning.

Everything is quantifiable, even if we cannot know the specific quantity. This is why scientific principles are based on estimations, probabilities, and empirical evidence from replicable experiment, because we are limited in our ability to quantify things, and must hedge our certainty with doubt to speak truly. There are mathematical laws, but only physical theories. To understand anything we must first admit we cannot know precisely, because we are not capable of observing everything. At best we can disprove false hypotheses that cannot be true, and what might be true we are left to devise theories from. Your claim this is not possible is limited to you, because you cannot do this, and cannot understand anyone that can.

"18% (30/160) of the reward pool goes to what hol0zor says actual authors."

Here you prove your inability to understand. Is every author receiving the same rewards? Of course not. Yet everything you say following this statement is based on all authors receiving exactly an equal share of rewards regardless of how many posts they make or how well rewarded each post is. All authors do not receive the same rewards, and it is obvious - if you look - that the more stake an author has, the more rewards they receive for their posts. HBDfunder comments enable curators to take all rewards, without any rewards to the author. This proves that the stated split between author and curators doesn't actually split rewards by that percentage in real life. This is true of all posts where authors decline rewards, and the actual rewards for a post in which beneficiaries are designated, as all my posts since I learned this could be done do, also vary from that percentage. Then there's tips, burn posts, and more.

"Hopefully, you can see why that is an absurd statement."

You clearly do not. You have no idea what you're talking about, and this is why you are making false claims about PoB and maliciously attacking me for trying to explain things to you. I'll make it simple for you, so that anyone you have deceived can understand how you are deceiving them. Hive is a plutocracy in which a majority of stake is all that determines governance. ~36 (the ~ indicates 'about' because the actual number of whales isn't fixed. You'll observe all the numbers I have provided were preceded by the tilde, because they are not fixed and precise quantities) whales have the majority of stake, and have since the platform advented in 2016. Nothing else but stake determines governance of the platform. PoB, PoSV, nor any other mechanism can change anything about how Hive works, because the only thing that determines what code runs is the consensus witnesses whom are selected by those with a bare majority of stake, the ~36 whales. They make more money than you, me, and all the rest of us together, and they keep it that way.

That's all you need to know, and maybe, if you can understand that simple fact, you'll shut your lying mouth and quit deceiving people. “When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest.”--Anonymous. You have tried to prove me wrong, but what you did is prove that you are not honest, and are determined to stay wrong.