RE: AI slop and the death of Art
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Can something be art if it's made by a machine? For me, it can't. What makes it art is the human processing, the combination of experiences one was exposed to, selected by the values each artist holds. There's a deeper understanding of things to it.
An artist is not someone how draws pictures, even though they might be beautiful. It's someone who can see things in the world and built something out of it.
Take this awesome photo by @holoz0r as example.
The art here is not the wall, not the stones, not the door, but recognizing the unique composition of different epochs. It's interpreting that based on the experience he has, and taking that picture. The art is in the process, not the result.
very well put bro... but you and I are not their target consumers.
The "hustlers" that "make" this stuff are the same as all the other worthless courses that are launched on udemy (do we have one on HIVE?!) and other such platforms that promise the world, but really just sell their service.
I don't even know what I would call the "consumers" of it.
Superficiality addicts. Those are the consumers.
A camera is a machine, operated by a human :P
Come on, the gun argument? Just take the compliment and be happy with it... 🤣
Holoz0r and the Machine!
I'll buy that album. You could send sample of your pics to the band, maybe they'll take them for the next album?
I'll get right onto Ai generating the album, you've already said you'll buy it. :P
The symbols used in the album Art of Dance Fever (which I am writing about now) is 100% my favourite Aesthetic style.
The only problem is I, myself, do not identify as a pre-raphaelite muse. I am just a mind, given tools to express.
Sure. But you take the tools and add your self to them, creating an outcome with a deepness worth thinking about.
This is the second nicest thing I've read written about me all day :)
The camera is a tool used by a human. Would you dismiss an architectural drawing because CAD is a machine?
No, and by extension, paradoxically, a LLM is still a tool - a generative model is a tool, but that tool has distinct, perfectly reproducible outputs given the same staring conditions.
Prompt + Trained Model + Random Seed = Same outcome. Always. It is a mathematical surety.
Our human "random seeds" have much more fuziness. Stuff that we cannot encapsulate through words, reduced to tokens and a long integer.
On the determinism of AI outputs: I suppose the same thing can be said of a guitar with standard tuning, an identical plectrum and the same velocity of hand upon the region of open string.
I expanded one of my comment below on this thread to a full post, because it felt like I needed to: https://peakd.com/hive-170744/@holoz0r/determinism-and-creativity-and-why-were-so-fuzzy