AI slop and the death of Art

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I saw a post on Reddit that truly hurt my soul. Like some of you, I too wander around those old Reddit forums sometimes, looking for novelty. Last year I joined a subreddit called Passive Income, hoping that one day I might come across something that would work for me. The idea that yesterday showed up in my inbox, however, left me feeling depressed.

Ironically an AI generated image

There’s a part of me that is still idealistic and still believes in merit. Talent is real, you know, and there are people out there who may not be “successful” in the traditional sense, but are undeniably talented. One of my favorite things in life is discovering hidden gems—artists who, for one reason or another, aren’t mainstream, aren’t well known, but whose talent is breathtaking. I share this only so you understand where I’m coming from.

And then, along comes this “side hustle plan”:

Make AI Music and Earn Passive Income

Huh?

You can’t be serious, I thought to myself. But of course, I had to read it through. The more I read, the more I felt a kind of ire building inside me. What in the bloody hell is this? The question hammered away at my patience.

The “entrepreneur” in question claims to make over $3,500 a month by creating AI music and distributing it on streaming platforms. Using AI, he can even generate the promotional videos to go along with it.

Yes, I know I’m biased. Being a musician doesn’t allow me much objectivity here—I realize that. But how can anyone defend this practice? How can anyone claim this is a good direction for humanity?

I know consumerism—also known as “the American way”—is probably killing us. But I always thought that phrase had more to do with our financial health. Now, I think it’s killing everything about the human experience.

Sadly, art is already on the chopping block, and there isn’t a thing anyone can do about it.

You’d imagine people wouldn’t consume AI slop like this. That they wouldn’t allow the system of incentives to strip away the most intimate elements of our humanity—our art, our culture.

But hey… it’s got a good beat.

I guess that’s all that matters.

MenO


Spanish Translation

Vi una publicación en Reddit que de verdad me dolió el alma. Como algunos de ustedes, yo también me paseo a veces por esos viejos foros de Reddit, buscando algo novedoso. El año pasado decidí unirme a un subreddit llamado Passive Income, con la idea de que algún día encontraría algo que pudiera servirme. Sin embargo, la idea que llegó a mi bandeja de entrada me dejó deprimido.

Hay una parte de mí que sigue siendo idealista, que todavía cree en el mérito. El talento existe, y hay personas que quizá no sean “exitosas” en el sentido tradicional, pero son indudablemente talentosas. Una de mis cosas favoritas en la vida es descubrir joyas escondidas: artistas que, por una razón u otra, no son conocidos ni forman parte del mainstream, pero cuyo talento es simplemente sobrecogedor. Comparto esto solo para que entiendan de dónde vengo.

Y entonces aparece este “plan de ingreso extra”:

Haz música con IA y gana ingresos pasivos

¿Qué?

No puedes hablar en serio, pensé. Pero claro, tuve que leerlo todo. Mientras más leía, más sentía cómo se encendía una ira en mis entrañas. ¿Qué demonios es esto? La pregunta golpeaba mi paciencia.

El “emprendedor” en cuestión dice ganar más de 3.500 dólares al mes creando música con IA y distribuyéndola en plataformas de streaming. Incluso puede generar con IA los videos promocionales que la acompañan.

Sí, sé que soy parcial. Ser músico no me deja mucho espacio para la objetividad, lo reconozco. Pero, ¿cómo puede alguien defender esta práctica? ¿Cómo puede alguien decir que esta es una buena dirección para la humanidad?

Sé que el consumismo—también conocido como “el estilo americano”—probablemente nos esté matando. Pero siempre pensé que esa frase tenía más que ver con nuestra salud financiera. Ahora creo que está matando todo lo que hace valiosa la experiencia humana.

Lamentablemente, el arte ya está en la mesa de sacrificio, y no hay nada que nadie pueda hacer al respecto.

Uno imaginaría que la gente no consumiría esta bazofia hecha con IA. Que no permitiría que el sistema de incentivos le arrebate lo más íntimo de nuestra humanidad: nuestro arte, nuestra cultura.

Pero bueno… tiene buen ritmo.

Supongo que eso es lo único que importa.

MenO



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Unfortunately AI will displace Art and many other human creations / professions. What you see in the AI world is an equivalent of the birth of Internet with AOL dial up service about to be launched.

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Don't forget the outside of the internet: go to concerts, art galleries and buy handmade products. I don't think we have to live in this dystopia

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There's very little discussion of how "AI" will take away people's self expression at the exhibition openings I go to.

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I couldn't agree more. I live in a world where about 10% of the people still don't even have cellular phones... there's plenty of human art to be found out in the woods!

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leave to us to use tools in the most self destructive way, huh?

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I believe that people who really value artistic expression and art, will always hunt for human creativity. If all of the internet is filled with AI slop we still have things out of the internet. During the past years it became a side show to go to concerts and art galleries for many but these will be the only spaces for proof of human art. Concerts, street musicians, real paintings in galleries, theaters, movies made by real people, actual crafts made by human. Everything that is hand made and has small errors will be worth more and more. Of course it will become harder to proof that e.g. a movie is made by humans but this challenge will probably get solved by the same people who are smart enough to invent ai in the first place.
People who didnt really care about art 10 years ago will suck up all the AI slop. People cared for actual art will continue to care in the future too. Of course there is also the financial aspect of all of this buuuuut: the best artists died poor, right? Maybe that will continue to be true for all time - even though for a different reason

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idk my brother... I still know about people who paid real money to go see someone's laptop playback music. So, my "trust humanity card" is really worn.

that said... I hope, I pray you are right!

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Can something be art if it's made by a machine? For me, it can't. What makes it art is the human processing, the combination of experiences one was exposed to, selected by the values each artist holds. There's a deeper understanding of things to it.

An artist is not someone how draws pictures, even though they might be beautiful. It's someone who can see things in the world and built something out of it.

Take this awesome photo by @holoz0r as example.

All rights to be identified as the copyright holder of this image are held by @holoz0r Captured August 14, 2025

The art here is not the wall, not the stones, not the door, but recognizing the unique composition of different epochs. It's interpreting that based on the experience he has, and taking that picture. The art is in the process, not the result.

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very well put bro... but you and I are not their target consumers.

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The "hustlers" that "make" this stuff are the same as all the other worthless courses that are launched on udemy (do we have one on HIVE?!) and other such platforms that promise the world, but really just sell their service.

I don't even know what I would call the "consumers" of it.

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Superficiality addicts. Those are the consumers.

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A camera is a machine, operated by a human :P

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Come on, the gun argument? Just take the compliment and be happy with it... 🤣

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Holoz0r and the Machine!

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I'll buy that album. You could send sample of your pics to the band, maybe they'll take them for the next album?

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I'll get right onto Ai generating the album, you've already said you'll buy it. :P

The symbols used in the album Art of Dance Fever (which I am writing about now) is 100% my favourite Aesthetic style.

The only problem is I, myself, do not identify as a pre-raphaelite muse. I am just a mind, given tools to express.

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Sure. But you take the tools and add your self to them, creating an outcome with a deepness worth thinking about.

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This is the second nicest thing I've read written about me all day :)

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The camera is a tool used by a human. Would you dismiss an architectural drawing because CAD is a machine?

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No, and by extension, paradoxically, a LLM is still a tool - a generative model is a tool, but that tool has distinct, perfectly reproducible outputs given the same staring conditions.

Prompt + Trained Model + Random Seed = Same outcome. Always. It is a mathematical surety.

Our human "random seeds" have much more fuziness. Stuff that we cannot encapsulate through words, reduced to tokens and a long integer.

On the determinism of AI outputs: I suppose the same thing can be said of a guitar with standard tuning, an identical plectrum and the same velocity of hand upon the region of open string.

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"Art" may be on the chopping block, but the places where a lot of "AI" Art are being used are the places where artists were not getting paid anyway.

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spotify is a whole different dragon that needs slaying...

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I've never used it :) I went from CDs and FLAC files to YouTube Music.

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you did the right thing... i had it for a while, but I've repented for my sins

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I think this is a larger point that most people are missing in this conversation.

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Absolutely, and its a problem that has plagued creativity for all time - it simply isn't valued by society as it should be.

I have written so much on that topic recently.

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AI text, images, and music all fall deep into the uncanny valley, but the tech bro types are flocking to it as the Next Big Thing while tech companies are building a bubble around the industry. I've seen so many ads for AI logo creation, AI content creation, and more. It disgusts me to see it used as a substitute for creativity instead of a tool to support creativity. I once wrote a short song parody in a comment as a reply to another post, and the author used an AI music generator to convert it into a quck-and-dirty rock-and-roll track, and I thought that was funny. A real band could do it better, but it was a fast proof-of-concept, not something pretending to be the finished item to be commercialized. I have a lot of complaints about the emptiness of modern commercial pop music, but behind the formulaic lyrics and over-produced audio, there are still real people. I want to see technology support more independent creators, though, not turn everything into generic robot muzak.

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This inappropriate application of technology is my biggest problem with it so far. Like the memes say, I want AI to do my laundry and dishes, so I have more time to paint and write songs, not the other way around.

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Honestly, I'm not surprised at all by this. Producers have long known 'the formula' for a successful song, and we've seen it applied over and over again to the top 40's carbon-copy 'artists' that the media have been pushing on us for decades.

If they can do the same thing without paying any artists, of course they're going to do it. As you said, it's the American way. I've been expecting this to happen since Luo Tianyi started making money in China.

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