Dutch Court Orders Bill Gates to Appear in Person to Defend against Charges of Crimes Against Humanity
Seven vaccine injured individuals in the Netherlands have brought charges in the Leeuwarden District Court against Bill Gates, Albert Bourla, and other suspects involved in the Covid 19 psyop for their injuries, arguing that there is no medical benefit delivered to people injected with mRNA 'vaccines', but that the defendants conspired to inflict a biological weapon against humanity through deception, and on them personally. One of the plaintiffs has since died of their injuries, leaving six to proceed in their complaint. On October 16 the Leeuwarden court ruled it does have jurisdiction to proceed against the defendants and set a hearing for November 27, 2024.
IMG source - Odysee.com - The People's Voice
Dr. Francis Boyle, the author of the UN Convention on Biological Weapons which entered into force in 1975, has stated the mRNA injections are biological weapons. Dr. Boyle points out that the development of the bioweapons was conceived and funded by DARPA, with the complicity of the FDA, and that the mRNA injections cause the toxic and medically hazardous part of the SARS2 virus, the spike protein, to be inserted into our cells and then manufactured by our own cells. Lawyers for the injured victims make the point that since the injections have no beneficial medical purpose - the injections have instead been proved to have negative efficacy, to increase the risk of getting Covid19, be hospitalized for it, and to die, the very opposite effect vaccines are created to produce - we incorrectly refer to the myriad injuries as side effects. These are not side effects, but the purpose of the injections with the mRNA biological weapons, which function as intended.
When we grasp this truth, everything makes sense. The unprecedented quarantine of the healthy, the utterly unscientific social distancing, the bizarre mandates and police brutality imposing them, all these completely nonsensical actions governments took all across the world are suddenly perfectly supportive of a purpose to attack humanity with bioweapons. These things made no sense at all as actions to help us survive a pandemic, but they make perfect sense as means of attacking and subjecting us to biological warfare.
The People's Voice reports extensively on the proceedings of the Dutch court and the detailed accusation by legal counsel for the injured. If you or loved ones have been injured, or have suffered harm by the attempts to coerce you and yours to submit to the biological weapon injections, this should be worth your time and attention. Many people have lost careers, been slandered and maligned, been beaten, held in captivity, and afflicted with all manner of indignities up to and including death, for refusing to be jabbed. Tens of millions have been killed and perhaps billions injured when they submitted to the coercion to take the jabs.
Florida, under the guidance of Surgeon General Joe Ladapo, has called for the jabs to be stopped. Slovakia has outright banned them after a report commissioned to investigate the matter showed the plandemic is bioterrorism. German attorney Reiner Fuellmich conducted hearings and received testimony for years on the matter, and has been illegally plucked from the streets of Mexico, extradited to Germany, and has been held in captivity for over a year on misdemeanor charges for his trouble.
The attorneys in the Leeuwarden complaint note that there are efforts underway globally to create digital ID specifically to track those injected and those not, and point out that COVID is actually an abbreviation of Certificate Of Vaccination ID. There is some evidence dating back to 2018 in shipping manifests for Covid19 test kits in support of this claim, and the WHO naming the disease caused by SARS2 virus Covid19 caused quite an uproar at the time because it doesn't follow long standard conventions used to name diseases. Donald Trump, the likely next (perhaps last) President of the United States, proclaims with pride his acceleration of this genocidal crime against humanity, Operation Warp Speed, and has also said he'll impose biometric ID on Americans and use that ID to expel illegal immigrants. Of course, that ID will also have the record of bioweapon injections people have received. His chosen 'Health Czar' Bobby Kennedy, Jr. has been required guests to be injected mandate at events, despite the voluminous probative evidence the jabs cause myriad medical injuries and harms greatly in excess of those caused by the SARS2 virus. The corruption and abuse of political mechanisms avails no surcease from this plot in extant polities, necessitating revolution to avail relief, and this then is planned to be used to facilitate the global government the NWO is hell bent on achieving. Parasites want the biggest host possible, because that provides the biggest food supply to fatten them the most. All countries must fall to enable a global government to replace them.
The skill at deception and betrayal our overlords have is unmatched, but does not make them invincible. The underlying power and ability of humanity to survive and surmount catastrophe of every kind reveals it is good people taking care of one another that are indomitable. Even a cursory glance back through history shows that similar betrayals aren't uncommon, if less ambitious, and periodically produce pikes surmounted with the heads of traitors and streetlamps festively decorated with their dangling dancing remains. Knowing human history makes it difficult to understand why these psychopaths try again, but the accurate descriptor psychopath reveals the reason: they are insane, not reasonable, not rational but mad and driven to utterly irrational and horrific crimes by their madness. The 100% failure rate of all such betrayals across history isn't able to grant lunatics reason, and their own narcissism and lust for power betrays themselves as much as it does the innocents they yearn to destroy.
We may be making progress and winning in the courts, but the politicians have been killing us in the streets, in our homes, and in our beds. Hopefully this trial of Gates et alia for conspiracy to commit genocidal crimes against humanity will energize those of us still capable to resist the bioterrorist plandemic and end the depopulation and sterilization of our people, while we remain alive, virile, and fertile. There isn't a jurisdiction on Earth where this matter shouldn't be brought and relief sought. The facts reveal a conspiracy between genocidal profiteers to commit the most vile and horrific crime against humanity possible, potential to extinction of humanity, and we will charge, prosecute, and judge the conspirators, or suffer their depredations without relief until they destroy each other.
Humanity invariably survives cataclysms, and this democidal mania will be no different in that result. Not everyone survives cataclysm, however, but those that are most capable of understanding, those that best rally to support one another, and best apply understanding to mutually solve the challenges cataclysms pose. It is the test of our social competence that comes upon us, and now is the time to resolve the treason that threatens us to the best of our abilities. Only doing our very best will be good enough, so don't hold back lest you fall short. Be excellent and true so we can depend on you. Loners fending for themselves aren't who makes it through, but folks that have each others backs and can be depended on that do. Our superpower is society, not selfishness.
Curated for #informationwar (by @aagabriel)
Delegate to the @informationwar! project and get rewarded
Happy to see this comment. I didn't know how much I missed it. Thanks!
i feel most alternative media has become an amplifier of the worst case imaginable. in that sense they do the gang's job of fear-mongering way more effectively than the legacy media who have lost credibility even in the eyes of the masses. people in alternative media generally believe fully in what they are publicizing and it comes across as genuine to people. it might be one of the main reasons the gang has "given" the internet to people. many learned a lot, but so many narratives can be more effectively controlled through authentic and genuine pundits who are unaware of their role in the publicizing of false, system-entrenching ideas.
there is good reason to reject the entirety of "alternative" views on covid for instance because those stances fully ignore the scientific basis of the claim, much like the official narrative does. namely that there are such things as pathogens or even human cells. i am not certain any longer and will not take it for granted.
the pattern should be familiar now: make an official claim and limit the borders of discussion with the equally false "truther" narrative to encompass a planned playing field of discourse. i always raise an eyebrow when i find the commonality of both allegedly opposite views, and thus find the real agenda, i.e. which core concept (faith) is to be fortified in the public mind.
by that we can also find the more likely answers, though to be fair i get the feeling that even those are merely damage control views on the gang's part for those smart enough the to see through both lies. not sure it is possible to discern the objective truth through linear mind logic alone these days.
the truth has been fenced off carefully to an incredibly impressive degree.
and, i agree: community will trump everything. experience counts above all else. keeping an open mind and exchanging energy, thoughts and helpful deeds with those resonant to our own path in life seems indeed the best way forward. sharing is caring, and there will be a whole lot of that one way or another.
blessings dude!
I pretty strongly agree. We really need experiential evidence to support conjecture if we expect any kind of understanding of the real world. However, given our human existence we have to have an idea of what the world we live in is, how it operates, and what we should do to secure our existence. Whether we are primitive hunters whose horizon delimits our world, whose culture founds our conceptions of the world, and without experience of other possibilities than those and what our examinations of what our hands can hold before our eyes reveals, or urban consumers of Tik Tok and the practically illimitable streams of narrative competing for our attention, we have an idea of the world we live in, a gestalt we try to pigeonhole everything into. If we are faced with some novelty that doesn't fit we can try to extend our gestalt, ignore the new evidence, or reconceive of that evidence to comply with our worldview.
How we approach such information determines who we are, and in the end, because we all expire, all our hopes and dreams, our understanding or ignorance, fade away and become irrelevant to the world we are actually in. I find it useful to keep that irrelevance in mind, seeking to keep my expectations within reasonable limits, because little disturbs my peace more than the crushing of my hope, which invariably results from taking myself too seriously or expecting too much of me or my world and having to settle for whatever actually does come to pass.
I also concur that we too often simply accept sincerity as revealing what is factual, but I know about me that what I believe often has no concordance with facts, which is why I'm a confirmed bachelor today, amongst other things. We are also pretty gullible and folks that strive to be forthright expect others are also. That is why marriages so often last, and why it took so long for the corporate media to lose the confidence of anyone with any capacity to reason. Some people may well believe in reptilians or the flat Earth, and this can get people to believe in those things because they believe sincere reporters, but, sadly, sincerity isn't necessarily related to factual reality. We are so incompetent that the vast majority of reality is neither perceivable nor conceivable to us, and most of us are overconfident in our worldview, so sincerely report things to be what we cannot know and are almost certainly wrong about.
Thanks!
mmhhhmmm, those were some great reminders man. i think i have been taking myself and life too seriously lately again, i keep falling into that. so my gratitude for pointing that helpful strategy out in yourself.
well, we do have to start somewhere and i feel reminding each other of our particular unchecked beliefs is a token of friendship between individuals if it comes from a eye-level energy, which is where most truthers fail. i have failed at it many times until i found the catch in my newfound "truth" and felt like a dumbass ;)
as long as we leave the possibility of being wrong open i think we're "safe". i for one will no longer vouch for the earth having curvature. or the moon being a reflector of the sun's light. or the earth existing in an infinite vacuum.
nor will i vouch for a an icewall in antartica or the idea that the sun and all stars travel in one giant circle around polaris.
i miss crucial evidence for both "mainstream" cosmologies at this point and both camps dislike me for it ahahaha.
other than an otherworldly experience with an "unhuman" stranger while being on psilocybin i have no reason to take the reptilian story seriously at all. but the jury is still out on everything, it's just that the case i have seen for it is weak and untestable ;)
so i keep coming back to my dated and almost boring mantra that has served me well for over a decade: nobody knows what's up on earth.
my best to you and yours
Hello to you,
I have the impression that people want to be governed and that they are quite prepared to accept a government that uses its power to suppress and, if necessary, imprison those among its own people or make life difficult for them who speak out against the government's course. The thin varnish of democracy does not conceal the fact that, in an emergency, people will place themselves under the protectorate of those who they think will benefit them because they have the stronger means.
In 2020, it became very clear how quickly and uncritically people were prepared to sacrifice their brothers and sisters, their work colleagues, and most quickly the very old and the very young, who are always the least able to assert themselves.
The speed with which people allowed themselves to be frightened also matched the speed with which they saw themselves as enemies on a horizontal level. A people that does not recognise when it is divided is one to which one can already ascribe the anarchistic traits that mirror those of those who 'govern' it.
Who did not immediately become a sceptic when, in April or May, Mr Gates was given a full seven minutes of prime time airtime on German national television, where he said that he intended to ‘vaccinate seven billion people’ and was not asked a single critical question by the moderator, does not have good instincts.
Contrary to the lunatic minds amongst us humans, I am for having a functioning government. Who executes crimes and punishes criminals.
But since the things stand on their heads, it nowadays can happen that a fair playing citizen is being seen as a criminal, while an unfair playing citizen is benefited or spared consequences.
The alternative media you talked about is a product of the outrage and deep anger towards that development, oftentimes very unprofessionally produced and presented. If people are emotional, they lose to stay clear in mind and calm in action.
This division between ‘brother and brother’ continues on all other topics and the more topics, the more people are divided in their highly personal relationships, i.e. between husband and wife, parents and children, work colleagues and even hostility in the supermarket or elsewhere in the public sphere. A people with good instincts, however, would not allow this to happen and the power of those hungry for power or the power of the overanxious would fizzle out.
But because it is never the case that all people agree, and because this knowledge exists in the world, you only need to apply it. So far, our Christian heritage has prevented us from returning to pre-Christian ideas and re-adopting tribal thinking. However, as more and more people become atheists and our religion loses its meaning, people are guided by the idea that revenge should become a right. And where this is thought to be the case, targets are needed on which to exact retribution.
The exceptions to the principles of the rule of law, which in turn are based on Christian order, have been declared to be new ‘rights’.
Now, these people forget that they themselves can be seen as targets one day, since many of them are privileged people indeed, and their presence in the media might be understood as an invitation to not only make their life difficult but to kill them. Since not everyone in the world comes from a Christian background.
It is possible to have as objective a view of events as possible. While that does not mean to always be absolutely right. But there is a space between zero and one hundred.
I recommend reading this article: https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/die-niederlage-des-westens
Greetings to you and God bless you.
it seems to come down to faith in things higher or more fundamental than human laws. that is why even as a non-christian i can deeply relate to people who live for god, rather than for the nihilistic icons and wordly ideologies of "the (fictional) world"
they generally seem to have retained more of their human-ness or their 'instincts' as you put it. they do not pathologically reference current ideology to justify their actions, rather they reference their religious ideology and the words of jesus which is in many senses more aware of human abuse of power than the average atheist.
an objective view depends entirely on our frame of reference, which is why the smartest people can be absolutely lost in the sound logic of a mind construct whose foundation is erroneous.
god as a foundation makes people accept that not everything in the world is as it may seem or that we have all the answers yet. it's just that christianity may not be the roots of our culture but rather the first major attack on the roots of our culture because it assumes and presupposes certain ideas that may already lead one down a potentially unfactual path, for instance the idea that god is transcendant rather than omnipresent in all of life, that i am here and god is somewhere else. it spawns the idea of causality, of separation between a this and a that which does have apparent merit talking about the physical world, but falls short on realizing the interconnectedness of all things or the very sober realization that "things" do not exist any more than our obsessive need to divide and sort everything into little bits for the social convenience of being able to talk about them.
i like recommendations, will read that article after a shower. it's very good to read you again, many blessings to you
I respectfully disagree. Before Christianity, and even within the large cities or empires that already existed at that time, there were no official ten commandments. Which are for everyone to understand.
The fact that lying (or bearing false witness against someone) is considered wrong is only so self-evident to all of us BECAUSE it is based on Christianity and well documented. If you took away this self-understanding, what would remain?
The other commandments, such as not deceiving anyone (for one's own benefit), not killing anyone for the sake of murder, not disregarding the honouring of parents as father and mother qua their authority over their children, officially came into being under Christianity.
Greek and Roman law only included Greeks and Romans or those who were subject to this law. If you entered their territory as a foreigner, you were not under their protectorate, but could be killed or taken advantage of, but no one was responsible for an ordinary foreigner/expatriate. All rights were based on territorial law, but not as a generally applicable order outside one's own borders.
There were certainly similarities to the Christian order, but at what point do you want to describe this as ‘our cultural roots’? Rather than going further back in time and thereby making it much more difficult to find the roots, it makes more sense to recognise that Christianity unified something that had previously existed in countless fragments in the form of smaller tribal cultures and that these many different clans were characterised by the fact that they acted according to the principle of conquest and enslavement of competing clans or foreign countries and that revenge was a completely legitimate concept, just like human sacrifice (killing own tribes people for the gods).
Christians put an end to human sacrifice and instead created a new symbolism for it, moved on to animal sacrifice, gave that up too and finally, with Jesus, achieved the complete substitution of all sacrifices to be brought to death alive through his martyrdom.
If you interpret it as an ‘attack on our previous roots’, I would fully agree, but at the same time say that I see it as a legitimate attack. Christians, uniquely in human history, have recognised that the monogamous relationship between a man and a woman, marriage, is not only a sacred but a thoroughly pragmatic relationship that must be entered into with foresight and follows a life discipline. Instead of finding marriage either completely unimportant or regarding polygamy as the ideal or stoning women who have committed adultery, as in other cultures, Christians have introduced much milder punishments.
Their best idea was to officially place the woman under the protection of the man, because they saw crystal clear that no woman in the world is protected when men decide to subjugate her or treat her like fair game.
Only idiots twist this fact and make the husband the enemy of the wife. But women who lived as normal people hundreds of years ago (not the nobles or royal/imperial retinue) have always known that their fathers, husbands and sons were their only life insurance.
To paraphrase G. K. Chesterton, I would speculate that Christianity may never have reached its full bloom, but has suffered a great deal of damage to its image through the institutional churches and organisations, which should please the devil immensely. I'd recommend reading Rachel Wilsons book "Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women’s Liberation'
The separation between God and man is established as a way of thinking for the important reason that you first have to be able to think the separation in order to understand being united at all. If ‘everything is God, and God is in me and I am in God’, this saying - taken on its own - would just be meaningless babble.
Only when I am able to make this separation in the bright moment of my schizophrenia do I experience the pain of this act in its full dimension. Because in that moment I have rid myself of my conscience, that which immediately speaks to me again when I reunite with God. But because I cannot express linguistically that ‘I am God’, because my prayer cannot be addressed to myself, but must remain addressed to something higher, outside myself. Does that make sense to you?
As a human being, you know that you are not the river or the mountain. Neither is the mountain or the river a human being. This separation is a physically objective reality. But that does not stop you from admiring or honouring the connections of this creation.
Any form of prayer makes you feel that this boundary is very fluid when you are in a contemplative state. But after a prayer, you get up again and you make food, argue with your people, sin and err. Christians have well recognised that everyone sins and the commandments didn't come about because no one would break them, they came about BECAUSE they are broken. Christianity is an extremely intelligent system. That there are also other intelligent forms of religion: Notwithstanding. I study them and respect them, but I won't convert. What would be the point? I'm rooted in it.
I thank you for giving me the food to make an objection and also to clarify my mind and free write an answer. I hope you don't mind that my answer got long.
hmmm, yes i guess we do disagree :) somehow.
i do not mind your long answer and i'm glad something resonated in you to write about. i know that feelingwell,it often spawns more interesting posts than writing "alone" ;)
i just feel we have entirely different frames of reference, things we hold dear or deem likely or possible.which i welcome.
i believe in non-coercion thoroughly. which is why i reject government entirely. there is no logic behind a government, other than the fear narratives we keep hearing, the "but ifs". the biggest thug is the government, not the other people suffering under government's actions. we also live in a control structure of guilt and scarcity amd have been doing so ever since coercion started.
if you believe you need a government to defend against potential aggressors and criminals, so be it. i feel we need more back-bony people that don't wait for a government to sort everything out. and that will come the more it becomes apparent that a government cannot logically ever take good care of us. because we consent to being coerced, and make ourselves small, we offer ourselves, like the people you described from the covid time, and so the natural result is we get tyrants. always. we have people we don't know limiting our frame of reference by relaying tales in words, amd thereby an entire approach to life.
it is natural and unavoidable when you ask someone to make rules for you to live by.
from what i "know", the mazdans cherished the idea of non-coercion before the greeks and romans, and eventually the christians adopted their core tenets twisted them and spread it around so that we now think we are christians fundamentally. i am really not that sure anymore. because too much of christianity is a bad spell on the psyche as opposed to the mazdan ideas i found liberating in contrast.
can i be wrong? of course!
i learned about zoroastrian and the proto-indo european faith and the tenets simply resonate more than anything i have ever heard christians say. no coercion. no convincing. no arguing. because how can you argue with that which is as divine as you are? there is no point, other than to deny actual truth speaking its truth right in front of you. the christian "western" interpretations have eroded that view and completely substituted it for a different approach we modern people still have in our bones to this day. but is it therefore our real roots as a "culture"? to me: no it's not. it's no more real than believing we live on a spinning sphere, it's just normal to our spproach right now.
the truth may seem objective to you and i don't disagree entirely, it's just that the physical world is not all of existence and other people's views can be valid within their frame of reference simultaneously to yours. insisting on truth being objective depends entirely on the viewer, and his experience. it could therefore be said that all is objective always,especially radical subjectivity i may disagree with, because it follows a certain viewpoint's (individual's) logic to its conclusion. i see what you are saying with the mountain example, i grew up in the same culture. but it is not "true" it's just a way of thinking we confuse with objectivity. the ego mind makes a mountain something other but on a different paradigm it is not.
that is also where and why words fail. the mode is insufficient to analyse the issue.
i for one have a hard time listening to people telling me what reality and truth are, when they are people who have never been on a psychedelic experience themselves. i respect "their" view but i know from experience it is not the whole story. what one can say IN THEORY about life and existence, is "meaningless blabber" as you put it in the face of immediate experience. there is a reason speech fails when on a shroom trip - because words are walls and distract from the immediate and inexplicably mysterious. christianity may have once been closely associated with amanita muscaria, but that has long ceased to be he case, you can no longer ask a shroom directly to talk to god in feeling and omages, but need priests instead relying on words and a paradigm of separation.
human priests.
this place is unbelievably magic, we have just gotten used to our day to day viewpoint and the tales of "our christian" culture that we can't see any longer just how much we have been coerced in our fundamental perception and interpretation of life.
i still get the feeling we are not hearing one another. i mean no disrespect at all here, and i take your view as what you feel you think you saw and experience. it is valid. just not objectively valid for everyone. because separation is a convincing idea in 3d.
van is done and i will finally be on the road soon! so no more commenting on my part for now. ahahha.
thank you for giving me the chance to reflect and reassess what i do hold in faith and what i don't. you are doing me a service by reminding me and i hope my comments find you well and in a spirit of eye-level communication rather than ideological coercive attack on your truth perceptions.
blessings to you
Hi again,
thank you.
I will refer to the subject of 'governing'. Maybe I will find my time to also include what else you said, not sure.
I do believe in coercion, but in a well measured and most responsible way. I will exchange the term with other words, like: 'consequence', 'discipline', 'consistency' - which I all connote positively, not negatively in this context.
What if you break your thought in that sentence down to the smallest unit of human existence? The family.
Are you also in favour of 'no government' where the family is concerned? That I cannot imagine.
In my view, ‘governing’ begins there and means having an authority that you have as a father and mother through life experience and through your past experience as former children of your parents who exercised authority.
In this family alliance, those who have the best qualifications and have proven their life skills through their lifestyle and behaviour are in charge. Those who have not built up anything, who are not doing any useful family work, who are scraping by or who are still children (i.e. have yet to earn their right to co-determination) do not have a say.
Since a family always exists in a larger working net, the hierarchy here is that it is the municipal, then the metropolitan, then the state and then the federal government (I'm leaving out the EU).
When you talk about ‘no government’, which one do you think is superfluous?
I now assume that you nevertheless consider a set of rules for the coexistence of many people to be accepted. Is that correct?
Who in the family's local neighbourhood is responsible for upholding the rules, i.e. who is the executive and the judiciary? Who brings thieves, murderers, cheats, etc. to reason?
If, on the other hand, you are against the need for something like official police and courts, you would have to be in favour of self-justice.
Are you in favour of self-justice?
If every individual were authorised to carry out vigilante justice, what situation would that create?
As a matter of fact, there are reasonable and unreasonable minds in the world. Agreed?
The unreasonable must be persuaded by the reasonable not to get out of hand. This is only possible if they have to bear the consequences of their unreasonable actions themselves. Who denies them this experience is, in my view, acting unwisely themselves. It doesn't work without a conscientious form of enforcement.
Do you believe that all people, without exception, are capable of learning without pressure?
I definitely don't. (A so far lack of) Learning takes place by involuntarily receiving a consequence. If it were voluntary, there would be a paradox. Anyone who voluntarily bears a consequence for their actions - without any external influence - is already acting responsibly. This is my most important argument.
Do you agree?
In my view, enforcement, or rather consequences, are for sure necessary, because I know that there are foolish, evil, ignorant, unintelligent and stubborn minds. This consequence, measured as best as possible, must be understood as educational by those who receive it. It must humiliate them. It only so makes sense.
There are, have always been and will always be characters who, if they had to grow up as children without the intact healthy authority of their parents, will subsequently need to be educated as adults. Those who deprive them of this in turn think immaturely themselves because they fail to understand ‘consistency’ as something positive and out of love, they fear 'coercion' as something deeply bad. They may assume that something like this is not possible or not necessary and hinder the person being disciplined from receiving something extremely valuable.
Back to the beginning.
We have a federal government, as we engage in international trade far beyond our personal relationships. Which is modern standard.
If it is the case that you want to give up this standard (?), for example, you say that the federal government can go, but at the same time you would have to face the reality that other nations will want to keep/defend their national governments and we as small Germany (or whatever small country) would not have the slightest chance of protecting ourselves against invasion and takeover of our moral and physical values.
The German government is the one that must regain - from my current standpoint - both diplomatic skills and the responsibility for security in its own country at its external borders. At the moment we have no such government and it looks as if they are now anarchists. Indeed, all signs point towards that in reality, they have given up governing.
I would want to keep a republic, since going back to smaller units would be unwise - to say the least - and to go up to a world government is even scarier. What do you think?
Greetings.
a reply will have to wait some more, my apologies. but i will come back to it!
blessings
i am still fascinated by our differing views on... life (?) although we see so many things similarly. it is both interesting and a little tiring ahahhaa.
i do fully agree that family has an authority structure, simply because i know from experience that children look to their parents how this "being a human" works. kids learn from their parents and they have - or SHOULD naturally - have a say even if he kids don't yet understand. which is why governments target and erode family structures first in order to bolster their own importance in shaping the minds of both kids and their parents, but that is an aside.
what we see differently, it seems to be at least two major things here:
they seem to do so today because there is a vested interest by the supra-tribal institutions (governments) to become all invasive and self-evident, as in "where would we be without government" which is plain superstition to me, and unreasonable. if people would get over the notion of government-everything, neighbors would get together and build a road. you do not need a federal siphoning system for this. you need COMPETENT doers who exercise their innate freedom. that is it.
of course we would not have learnt anything without the tyrants! of course experience from this is valuable! but you cannot seriously take that as a justification to keep the state of affairs like it is. let-downs come natural to human existence and the existence of these power structures forces us to wake up from the nonsense idea that we must be governed by people to begin with. it is quite silly but it looks oh so serious. because people take it seriously.
i hear certain assumptions that are plainly not accurate in my experience. we would have to dive into natural law to set the stage. can anyone claim to be in power when - even after his own rules - a mere minority of those to-be-governed agreed to have them in that role, in absolute numbers? no he cannot.
we cannot reasonably assume somebody to be a legitimate ruler over anyone else unless the latter has given his consent to be governed. which is what everybody who votes does automatically, authorizing someone else to make decisions for them. participation in somebody's game is acceptance of the connected rules so if you went to vote for their game you rightly have no ground to complain about what comes out (regardless of which party you voted for).
the trend is undeniable in my experience, that governments are not a servant of those they claim to represent but rather their tyrant, making self-enriching deals that 'their citizens' suffer under, or brainwashing "their" populations with this that or the other myh of the day. some use religion, others use hollywood, others use a false and fictional historical narrative to justify any current atrocity people have ceased to regard as one, because we are bamboozled by organized lies. and we can't see the forest for the trees.
this works only because people give their consent away voluntarily and now think governments are a natural extension of natural systems. ot also works because the lies are part of a grander network of liesy robbing us of our own (common) senses in favor of fictional ideas.
we also seem to talk past one another on
Of course i realize that there are criminals, and malign beings, on more levels than one. so what? that justifies putting a gang in charge who provably defraud and steal from "their" constituents constantly?
it would be better to not shift the responsibility but to live it ourselves, in the immediate not the distantly removed. is that easy? no it is hard. calling the police to deal with your angry loud neighbor is easier than going over there and facing him and potential consequences face to face when complaining.
but easy doesn't make it right to have somebody else do for us what is naturally our job. freedom is not easy nor convenient. it is hot, it can sting and it can be mighty dangerous. but it is free and unconstrained. it is direct.
we do not need police, we need social competency and backbone. we need courage and to stand by what we feel, see and experience. and we need to step in when crimes are committed and not delegate our responsibility as sovereign and soulful beings away to some institution.
atrocities happen every day even in countries where there are police and military. having a government and an executive and judiciary branch doesn't help to set things right, they help to further the power structure's interest. they do not automatically equate justice, as you can plainly see in germany. and anywhere you look these days, really.
as such of course i am for self justice as long as i can define what justice means to me, which of course i can. is revenge justice? maybe, but revenge will not solve anything and i know that. so i might choose to exercise a different remedy than revenge. at least i can decide that, not some far away people who don't know me and whom i have never met.
self defense is in my jurisdiction. it is self justice in that sense.
but of course i realize that the with the state of social conditioning today, I will then be perceived as the aggressor for not delegating that job to some formal gang and will myself be invited to go to prison if i don't play by the system's rules.
i fundamentally see and have experienced people in most
countries in southern and eastern europe as good. people are helpful more often than not. they share my problems and help me when they can and have the will. and i help when i can and have the will. it is simple when things are voluntary as they should be.
"the existence of bad people does not legitimize an entire coercion structure to subjugate all people!
you and me seem to be going in and out of different frames of reference. which is why i will leave this here and not comment further on the poor dude's hijacked comment section, look what we have done erh, ahahahahhaa.
i am stating my ideal, and what i will work towards as best i can. at the same time i do take the world as it is and realize that people are apparently not ready to rethink everything, which i have to accept.
it is fine, as long as they don't try to coerce me into their silly little game. because they have no ground to do so.
when a hostile army from another "country" comes to convince me with violence, there is nothing i can do. but even moreso to stand on principle and trust that their violation of my sovereignty will one day find its balancing out in the cosmos. but that goes too far offtopic now.
i am going to bed.
if we do this in the future we should probably do it on your blog or mine rather than on other people's, but it did come naturally didn't it?
sorry @valued-customer
and @erh.germany, thanks for reminding me what i believe in and why. as always i remain open to change my mind. but for that the merit of natural law would have to fall for me, which i have not seen done and logic'ed through successfully by anyone. maybe i will some day, most my perspectives have changed many times. as such this is merely where i am currently at.
blessings
I'm plumb tickled to be able to benefit from your discussion here.
<3
Thank you. I have read all what you've answered. I find it most importantly, that we agree on the family-level. Though, I disagree that,
Since that is, from my standpoint, the way forward. Because all else includes in comparison a lot of violence, unrest and misery (death). Integre men and women and kids, it could be that this will not happen in our lifetime. Instead, far more unpleasant and frightening things might come to pass.
Can I summarise your answer by saying that you
I. you would like to see all governments as they currently exist abolished?
II. that instead of a deputy police and judiciary, there should be self-justice instead?
If so,
III. what kind of system in terms of vastly accepted rules amongst the 'peoples of self justice' you'd want to establish after such reset? Since you cannot really assume that every one is running by a correct book of rules, when it's all up to them.
No, actually we do not disagree here. My last sentence from my former comment should have made that clear:
That includes the long and tedious way back into the institutions and the parliament (including major changes from a new governing party). As much as it sucks.
If we talk about bigger than family units, but smaller than national government, what size do you have in mind? Villages, cities?
How would you make sure that these villages or cities stay safe towards other, still bigger units than them? How to guarantee a functioning interrelationship between all of them? You'd have to say good bye to modern standard, is it not so? You did not refer to that.
I welcome our differences, did I say that? HaHa .D
Greetings to you.
P.S. I think that valuedcustomer does not mind to have us littering his comment section. :)
finally arrived in a new life chapter and i can get back to your reply <3
the communication and conversation we are having is exemplary for exactly the type of society i have in mind, where people are able to talk to one another and learn from each other rather than force the other to adopt a viewpoint.
again i do see major difficulties to change the system as a whole because everybody is used to it being he way it is.
without the spiritual insight one cannot be expected to operate ethically in a system devoid of authority. so abolishing governments over night is definitely not the answer.
i can see though that the meddling of government in people's affairs could be winded down slowly over a generation or two, utilizing more self-justice type structures like neighborhood defense groups of volunteers who want to protect their fellow brothers and sisters from violence. it's the main reason people want to become cops, to feel they participate in defending those who cannot defend themselves, of arbitrary crime.
every supra-local bond is voluntary. as such it is no problem linking towns, counties or even countries, as long as the people living in it are not coerced into following the then-established rules. it is this automatic forcing of the individual into the frame of he giant collective that creates problems.
i have explored the topic for a long time now, and the best solution i can offer is based on natural law and recognizing that we only ever have to follow one rule that is not made by men but by circumstance of being a human individual in this world: do not steal.
do not steal someone else's property, liberty or life. or as it has been put by some eastern spiritual movements: do not take what is not given. all the rest follows and leaves people to do as they wish as long as they do not steal from someone else. it is really a variant and a concretization of the golden rule.
limiting the rules to that one major rule, automatically makes redundant most governmental institutions. it also allows a community to help mitigate when two individuals are in disagreement.
@amaterasusolar writes regularly about a society based on ethics, which in turn is based on natural law. i find it never ceases to amaze me how clear it can be seen.
but i totally grant that we we not there yet and that the road to such a world will be bumpy due to all our conditioning. opening the cage of a beaten wolf will be a dangerous moment initially, due to all the accumulated trauma. as such, discussions like this can maybe help to spread the knowledge and or help find the catch in such a proposed system based on the one rule alone. it might - like anything - be another spiritual trap to fall into. however i have not found the catch in all these years so it remains the most viable longterm goal in my view.
saying bye to the modern standard, hmm. i am always surprised at how well and friendly communication in smaller communities, and even in other countries works. i feel without the overregulation and government's meddling in people's affairs communities and even countries would come together much more, not less. we are uman beings, most of us want to improve the quality of lives, not just for us but for those around us.
what we then do with the psychopaths who have killed, stolen and tortured generations of the common man is an ethical question. i am a believer in forgiveness, as long as it comes with the absolutely necessary insight on the other's part and unmistakable efforts to "repay" their inhuman behavior as best they can.
germans will yet have to face being in a situation of having to forgive a LOT. i have prepared myself accordingly and am ready. somebody has to make a cut in order to finally heal old trauma that is holding everyone back. but while it would be such a victim's right to retaliate, we have to be stronger and better than that. for this stance jesus is such a glorious example.
i gope that answers your questions.
my blessings to you from central italy ;)
🙏 🙏 🙏 You and other readers might enjoy My latest....
I Have Authority Over You (article): https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/i-have-authority-over-you
very well said!
Very well reasoned. I am happy to see this interaction here.
@valued-customer, I paid out 0.691 HIVE and 0.130 HBD to reward 2 comments in this discussion thread.
Dear @valued-customer !
I think Bill Gates sacrificed a lot of people for medical experiments to create a vaccine!
I thought Bill Gates had a goal of using vaccines to reduce the world's population!
I would like to ask you whether if I say this, I will be denied entry into the United States!😂
Steve always advised me to be careful about the choice of English sentences.
I don't know what criteria is used to allow or permit entry into the United States. I have seen video of the US Border Patrol doing no more than fist bumping illegal entrants to the USA. I have not seen video of how legal entrants are treated, but I have read that it is more stringent.
I also do not know of any mechanism to tie pseudonymous post on Hive to the persons or bots that made them, so I think nothing you state here will have any effect on your entry into the USA - unless you provide this record of your statements yourself.
Thanks!
Dear @valued-customer !
The overlords of the world I live in are threatening to ban those who have been fined from entering the United States.😂
Defamation of K
Defamation Laws in K
US Visa for S
Introduce Wonderland to my friend @joeyarnoldvn.
I was fined US$2,500 for defamation.
People told me that if I go through immigration into the United States in the future and tell them that I have been fined, I will be banned from entering the country.
I'm making plans to visit the United States next year.
So, I wonder if I should hide the fine I received for defamation from US immigration officers!😂
I remember that in the United States there is no law against defamation and slander. However, in the world I live in, defamation and slander are serious crimes punishable by criminal law.
The overlords of East Asia are increasing the punishment for defamation and insult in order to hide their secrets.
@valued-customer, Do you think I should hide the fact that I was fined from US immigration officials?
I certainly have no knowledge of immigration to America from personal experience, and cannot pretend to speculate usefully. However, if there is a possibility that such fines have no impact on immigration officers decisions, attempting to hide that information could do no good for your case, but being caught lying to immigration officers could prove very bad for your case.
There is another way to look at the matter, as well. If you have suffered political persecution for doing things that are lawful in America, it seems to me you have a right to claim you are the victim of political persecution and fear you will suffer more and worse persecution if you aren't granted political asylum in America where the acts you are accused of are not crimes.
Unfortunately, political persecution for speaking the truth is a very real policy the American government commits, having been proven to censor Americans, encouraging them to be banned from social media platforms, fired from their jobs, and the word 'Arkancide' has been coined to refer to being murdered by the Clinton criminal empire, that has great political power in American government to silence witnesses to their crimes, while the media that speaks for such criminals claims the deaths are suicide, even if it is utterly impossible for someone to kill themselves by the proven means by which they died.
Sadly, I cannot usefully advise you in this matter because I have absolutely no experience or direct knowledge that could be of any benefit to you. I know that investigators are always angered when they find out they have been lied to, so at least I can say do not try to hide something you cannot ensure will be hidden unless you reveal it. Do not tell any lies you might get caught telling. Being caught lying is almost certain to be bad for you, so don't get caught lying.
Presently the USA is facing multiple political forces that are dramatically changing America, and the USA has very substantially changed in the last ten years, none of that change for the better in my understanding. It was the United States military that contracted with Pfizer to produce the bioweapons that have killed tens of millions of people worldwide through the terrorism regarding false claims about the Covid19 disease, and lies that the mRNA injections were vaccines, were safe, and were effective, all of which have been disproved today. The US FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, that is charged with making sure medicines, food, and medical treatments are safe, has been corrupted and criminally participated in the bioterrorism campaign that has and continues to kill Americans and people globally.
I cannot say any place in E. Asia is better than the USA, but I can say the USA is not safe from being subjected to terrorist attack by the United States government, and that terrorist institution is extremely powerful and will be difficult to stop, while other governments may be easier to stop. Slovakia has banned the jabs and rightly called the plandemic bioterrorism. The Netherlands has ordered Bill Gates to appear in court to defend himself from charges of crimes against humanity. These countries are taking action to end the bioterrorist crimes that have been conceived and caused by the United States government, and may be much safer than the USA for as long as this horrific genocide continues.
As a native born American it is my duty and responsibility to exercise my rights and authority to rein in the American government and stop the bioterrorist crimes against humanity that have originated here. As a potential immigrant you may be prevented from becoming an American with those rights and responsibility if the criminal United States government knows you will act to do so, because it is intent on continuing it's bioterrorism and crimes against humanity, in this and many other ways. I cannot advise you of how corrupt and democidal government may act regarding your attempt to immigrate here, nor whether you could suffer or prosper as a result.
I wish I could, but the truth is I cannot.
Edit: Also, I cannot confirm that your statement "...in the United States there is no law against defamation and slander." is true. I am sure the law in the United States, and the several states themselves, is much different than in E. Asian polities, but I am confident there are laws that address defamation and slander.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_defamation_law
https://www.findlaw.com/injury/torts-and-personal-injuries/defamation-law-the-basics.html
Also, each of the 50 states, and possibly the US territories, has it's own laws about these things, and I am neither a lawyer in any of those jurisdictions, not remotely competent to give you any advice regarding those laws, or even where to find more information other than telling you to consult someone that is an expert lawyer in that subject matter.
Americans don't punish those who tell the truth, but the overlords of East Asia punish such people more severely.😂
Thanks for your advice. I'll keep thinking about that from now on!!
I remember Joseph publicly claiming Biden was a pedophile, but he was not punished for defamation or insult. However, in my world, defamation and insult are punishable by imprisonment or fines.
The U.S. government outwardly guarantees the freedom and rights of American individuals. However, East Asia prioritizes the interests, honor, and rights of the overlords over the individuals.
Perhaps you find it difficult to understand that the East Asian world is ruled by overlords!
So, I envy the freedom and rights of American citizens!
I think we'll have to have a conversation about that in the future!
I hope your health and long life!
This is no longer as true as it once was. The USA has law that is intended to protect truth tellers from the very persecution you have suffered, but I am sure you are aware of Julian Assange and his terrible suffering. The courage of Americans today produces an endless supply of people that blow the whistle (sound the alarm) on an even more endless supply of nefarious deeds, thefts, and corruption - but the whistleblower protection laws are notoriously more observed in the breach. This is why Ed Snowden fled the USA when revealing the illegal surveillance the US government has been conducting on Americans. It is now known that every communication is recorded, every telephone call, every text, email, and message Americans send is intercepted, copied, parsed with AI and analyzed by contractors and employees of the federal government.
These are blatant crimes. Yet the evildoers conceal the full extent of their crimes pretending it is a matter of national security. The horrific madness that overcomes some deranged people and causes them to murder children, little children in schools, has been shown to be linked to the FBI over and over again. The FBI do this to try to convince Americans to give up their personal arms, as armed people across the rest of the West have already done. America is run by criminal overlords. This is gangland.
America has a legacy of freedom that is a hollow shell today, and the venal persecution suffered by peoples where that legacy never existed is hiding in the shadows of law that guarantees freedom of speech and immunity from surveillance without lawful cause, and this criminal element gains more power daily, afflicting not only Americans, but humanity globally.
Do not be fooled into thinking such persecution does not exist in America. It does. There is still a courageous group of Americans that fights against it, and I am one of them, but I do so after having paid a far higher price than a fine. I have been enslaved and held in captivity for years, stripped of assets today worth more than $1m, left penniless on the streets and would have been naked but for clothes I was given I did not have means to buy, because I tried to reveal what criminals conceal.
I am lucky I was not murdered, as many are that threaten drug dealers wearing badges. People that oppose illegal surveillance, illegal immigration, election fraud, drug dealing, faulty products and the fake vax criminally blessed by regulatory agencies, arms dealing and criminal assistance to murderous, genocidal warlords slaughtering millions from the equator to the arctic, speak up every day, and increasingly are killed, falsely accused and framed for crimes they didn't commit, jailed and enslaved for years as I was, and the protestors of the 2020 election fraud have been worse, and more, robbed and beaten, left penniless and homeless, again, as I have been.
Empty words are no City on a Hill. That just liberty is not what you will find here. If you leave your homeland and people, leave your culture and traditions behind for rhetoric you will suffer worse than I have for your naivety. Please understand that America has been corrupted for many decades, for generations, and the America that existed when John F. Kennedy was elected President died with him, and what America is now is more like the USSR before it's collapse. While the priority of overlords here is less open, it is no less real than in the most repressive polity on Earth. The persecution, the surveillance, drug dealing, murders, the vax, these are all outwardly crimes that must be concealed - but the criminals run the government through deception, commit all those crimes in the darkness. The US military conceived of and funded Pfizer's creation of the Covid19 plandemic. That is the criminal government of America today. That outward guarantee of human rights inherent to people America still pretends to, that is only guaranteed by Americans sacrificially speaking the truth and being persecuted, as I have been, as Julian Assange has been, and as the Jan. 6th protestors are being persecuted today.
That is what people that want to make America great again want to fix, and why people support Donald Trump. They believe the false narrative that he isn't corrupt, that he will stop the wars America is pushing all across the world using proxies like the Ukraine and Israel, that he will return America to respecting human rights as our Constitution proclaims it must, but no longer does. They want to believe, while their opposition openly grovels to tyranny and corruption. Strife, perhaps war, is coming to American soil again. Do not come here expecting peace, justice, and the American way to await you.
If that is to be here again, we will have to forcibly end the tyranny that has replaced it. Words on paper defend nothing. Laws are meaningless drivel. What protects American freedom is force of arms criminals yet fear, because American civilians have more personal arms than all the military forces on Earth combined. America will not be great again until Americans use those arms to remove the criminals from power, and Donald Trump is one of those criminals, not our saviour. If you come here, that is what you will come to, a gangland ruled by criminals from the shadows, where the laws are lies, and the real power comes out of the barrel of a gun.