When You Are a Black Church Musician, but You Love Heavy-Duty Jazz (and That's an Old Taboo)

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This is a random, hilarious moment of me getting ready for a church concert, with a lot of history attached ...

African music in North America is a long story of triumph over great oppression ... beginning with my enslaved ancestors taking the music they brought with them and keeping it although blending it with new ideas from English-language hymns and folk songs. This is the origin of the Negro Spiritual, the sweetest music out of the greatest human oppression of the modern age. Chattel slavery sought to destroy the humanity of the enslaved down to the soul. The Negro Spiritual is the first evidence of the failure, the deepest body of music produced in the Americas, and one of the parents of jazz, blues, and gospel music.

But the other parent, the work song, is very much neglected, and although the Negro Spiritual and its more elevated themes and souns made it to the concert hall and the admiration of Europeans and their idea of a Christianity that allowed for a Sunday to be holy and peaceful and calm and devoid of any reminder of the suffering their choice of enacting colonialism and slavery , the work song and its closer connection to the African chant and drums was not embraced as readily ... and thus, as Black people embraced Christianity and at last began to hope to be accepted into Eurocentric Christian circles, Black Christians began to be afraid of both jazz and blues ... as if Africa itself and all its contributions that could not be pigeonholed as chattel were unholy.

It is 2025. I am 44 years old, and still having conversations with frustrated people who get scared when younger musicians use jazz chords and blues scales in church ... churchiness does not include five-note chords and flat fifths and progressions of that sort ... although both Duke Ellington and Thelonious Monk played for church groups, and if you really listen, the only major difference between traditional gospel and traditional blues is really the lyrics...

I am free of the old prejudices because I am studied enough as a musician and a Christian to know that God loves every sound in music that Africans in America brought here, and that all of it can be used for His glory ... so I tickle myself sometimes doing traditional gospel progressions and listening to the great jazz musicians I have studied coming right on out in a harmonious blend. This was such a moment!

"Trouble In My Way" is a big-time traditional gospel song, and as an arranger I have been looking at the chant section in it on the phrase "Jesus, He Will Fix It" ... as both arranger and composer i look at repetitive phrases from the bass side for variety ... I always start out traditional but things can get interesting in a hurry when one has Jelly Roll Morton and Thelonious Monk under one's hands too... and because I am not afraid of my full musical heritage, what happens is what happens!


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I listen to a pretty wide variety of genres. Ragtime, blues, old-time, bluegrass, alternative, metal, classical, and weird indie stuff. There's a long history of holier-than-thou types hating popular music.

My generation's response:

The Baby Boomer generation's response:

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Yep ... the syncopated rhythm is hated because it is something they couldn't control ... people get happy on the 2 and 4 and start seeing a future not dependent on the schemes of folks playing god... the "Houseplant Song" is definitely a fresh look at the same issue!

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It depends on my mood as to what I want to listen to. I pretty much like all types of music.
!ALIVE
!LOL

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I actually do too -- I thank God I was not raised directly by people who thought any kind of music was sin. My preacher dad watched Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock with me on public television and said, "He was a genius."

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That is awesome, I wish my dad was like that. If it was not Gospel or Country, he did not want us listening to it. BUT!!!! What he didn't know didn't hurt me.

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IGITS TᕼᗩT ᗪᗩᑎᑕᕮ ᑌᑭOᑎ Tᕼᕮ KᕮYS ᗯITᕼ Gᖇᗩᑕᕮ,
ᐯᕮᖇY ᑎOTᕮ YOᑌ ᑭᒪᗩY ᑭᗩIᑎTS TIᗰᕮ ᗩᑎᗪ Sᑭᗩᑕᕮ.
ᗩᑕᕼ ᗰᕮᒪOᗪY ᖴᒪOᗯS ᒪIKᕮ ᗩ ᗯᕼISᑭᕮᖇᕮᗪ ᗪᖇᕮᗩᗰ,
ᐯOIᑕᕮ SO ᑭᑌᖇᕮ, IT ᗰᗩKᕮS Tᕼᕮ ᕼᕮᗩᖇT ᗷᕮᗩᗰ.
ᕮᐯᕮᖇ-ᕮᑎᗪIᑎG IS Tᕼᕮ ᗰᗩGIᑕ YOᑌᖇ ᗰᑌSIᑕ ᗷᖇIᑎGS,
OᑕTᑌᖇᑎᕮS ᗷᒪOOᗰ ᗩS YOᑌᖇ SᑭIᖇIT SIᑎGS.
, ᖴOᖇ ᗪᕮᐯOTIOᑎ—YOᑌᖇ ᗩᖇT’S Tᖇᑌᕮ ᖴᒪᗩᗰᕮ,
ᕮᒪOᗪIᕮS ᒪIᑎGᕮᖇ ᒪIKᕮ ᗰOOᑎᒪIT STᖇᕮᗩᗰS,
ᒪᒪ ᗯᕼO ᕼᕮᗩᖇ YOᑌ ᗩᖇᕮ ᒪOST Iᑎ YOᑌᖇ ᗪᖇᕮᗩᗰS.
Tᕼᕮ ᑭIᗩᑎO ᗷᕮᑕOᗰᕮS ᗩ ᗯOᖇᒪᗪ Oᖴ YOᑌᖇ Oᗯᑎ,
Oᑭᕮ ᗩᑎᗪ ᕼᗩᖇᗰOᑎY Iᑎ ᕮᐯᕮᖇY TOᑎᕮ.
ᗰOTIOᑎ ᑭOᑌᖇS ᖴOᖇTᕼ, ᖇᗩᗯ ᗩᑎᗪ SIᑎᑕᕮᖇᕮ,
IᑎᗪS ᑕᗩᖇᖇY YOᑌᖇ GIᖴT ᖴOᖇ ᗩᒪᒪ TO ᕼᕮᗩᖇ.
S, ᖴOᖇ SIᑎᑕᕮᖇITY—YOᑌ SIᑎG ᖴᖇOᗰ Tᕼᕮ SOᑌᒪ.

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La mejor forma de apoyarte es con un Lite , muchos éxitos, Dios te respalde ese talento.

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"Praise the Lord with the harp; make music to him on the ten-stringed lyre."
(Psalm 33,2)
Catholic liturgy can often be quite boring. No comparison to a Gospel mass!
Also Jazz and Blues! Why not?

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Amen to the Psalm ... but as I said, evil people wanted my people to feel inferior and less than because of everything that came with their African culture, and that is why not for a very long time. Some of my elders and peers still carry the scars of racism in that sad way ... so it is necessary to still make the distinctions and lay out the lines of responsibility. There is nothing wrong with any of the styles of music of Africa in America. It is necessary to delineate who told the lie and who can come out from under believing it now, too!

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I hope and actually believe that truly evil people are rare.
But there are a lot of misguided people. As hard as it is for the victims, try to give them a chance through education and forgiveness.

Sorry, I'm not trying to lecture anyone know-it-all, but I think that's the only chance we have to live together in harmony. (Not my words, but the words of Jesus)

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My whole life as a Christian is remembering ... "He said forgive them 70 times 7 times, and He knows I will lose count long before 490 times, so I get it: keep forgiving when people are trying for another chance." Victims always get another chance.

Now as for the wilful liars, though ... whole different ballgame. There are some truly dedicated people in evil, and they must be firmly exposed and resisted. But most people are just "lost," in every sense of the word ... so we hold out the light so that they can see it, and help those looking find their way. I'm all for that. But let me catch a wilful liar -- whole different ballgame, and I guarantee you, said liars don't like it much!

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Indeed! It's best to stay away from the really bad ones.
We have a saying: “When you deal with dirty people, you get dirty yourself! (figuratively speaking).

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Sometimes one has to resist -- really evil people will come for everything good. BUT: "Resist the devil, and he will flee from you" -- this too is written!

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