Hive needs better feeds! Let’s build a custom Curation tool! (fundraiser)

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I've been thinking for a while about how to improve my manual curation on Hive. The goal is to make sure the rewards I give are shared more fairly between the blogs that really deserve it. But I keep running into the limits of the current front-ends.

That’s why I came up with the idea to build a custom curation tool.
I think this could really be a positive change for Hive!

Interested?
Keep on reading!

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Curation on Hive

Last week I read a great quote by @steevc in one of his blogs:

Curation is a superpower here as both sides of the vote benefit.

Superpower may be a bit too much credit, but the curation on Hive is quite unique. At least, I’ve never seen this on any other platform (which isn’t strange because I’m hardly active on other platforms :D).
But curation also brings challenges. Everyone is free to use their Hive power the way they want. But the way people spend their powers can sometimes lead to heated discussions. Things like self voting, the so-called ‘circle jerking’ and vote selling are being seen as abuse of the reward pool and not appreciated by our community.

Apart from the abuse I personally have another issue with the distribution of the reward pool. The way the front-ends work have a great advantage for users that have been on Hive for a longer period of time and built up a network of friends that vote on them.
And although I know that a lot of them probably have invested time and maybe money to grow their account, that doesn’t necessarily mean that all their blogs should receive high rewards. Especially when you compare it with blogs that might be of the same or even higher quality from new users.

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Front-end blog feeds

Current front-ends have very limited possibilities for showing feeds to users. All of the offered feeds have shortcomings. One of the issues is that they cannot be customized to give the user exactly the blogs they want to see. Because of these shortcomings people are presented with blogs that already have a lot of rewards (hot, trending feed) or vote for the people they regularly vote on (following feed). Both are bad for vote distribution.
More followers often means more upvotes and more upvotes mean more views and reward, which results in a higher chance of showing up in the hot and trending feed or following feeds from others. This way a lot of upvotes will keep being given to a select group of users. This system is a disadvantage for new users who haven’t built a network yet, but do make blogs that add value to Hive.
It is bad for user retention when new Hivers see they get almost no rewards compared to others even though they create blogs of the same value or even better.

Yes, we also have the ‘All topics’ feed where you can see a stream of all the most recent blogs, but this feed contains a huge load of low quality posts. Besides that, in that feed are also blogs that will receive upvotes from autovotes and/or friends.

I personally think there is a need for a solution that can generate a customizable feed of blogs so Hivers can filter on exactly the type of blogs they want to curate.

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The trigger

Two weeks ago I created a blog that was called: Rethinking Hive Author Rewards.
In this blog I had listed a couple of things that I think could be changed to improve the distribution of the reward pool. One of those things was providing better feeds/filters.
There were quite a few people that reacted positively on that specific subject in the comment section of the post.
I’m tagging these people because they might be interested in this as well. And might even want to add something to this discussion too.
@ph1102 @clareartista @deepresearch @minismallholding @quark.top @captainbob @stayoutoftherz @acidyo

In the aforementioned blog I also mentioned some of the developers of the major front-ends (Ecency, PeakD) to share their opinions on this matter, but unfortunately they didn’t join the discussion. But I think they are mentioned quite a lot, so they might have not even noticed the blog, so I don’t blame them for not commenting on my blog.

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How I curate

I never use the hot or trending feeds for curation because they often show posts that, in my opinion, already have enough rewards. The ‘All posts’ is just too much. It’s an overload of all recently created blogs with a lot of posts that I am not interested in.

When I curate, I usually check three feeds:

  • Following
  • Community
  • Tags

For curation I mostly use the following feed because those are the people I started following because I liked their content. There are two disadvantages to this way of curating. First of all, I’m ‘only’ following just over 300 people. I could follow more people, but I want to keep it manageable. The second disadvantage is that most people blog about multiple subjects. I might be interested in one subject, but not in the others. And people can change their posting habits over time too. And ‘unfollowing’ someone feels a bit awkward I think.
So my following feed is getting a bit cluttered with posts I’m not really interested in.

The second way I curate is via the communities feed. This gives me all the blogs that are created in the communities I follow. Just like with following users I’m quite cautious which communities I subscribe to because I want to keep this feed a bit clean as well. But this makes me miss all the great blogs in other communities. Not only the Gems and other large communities, but there are also a lot of niche communities that have great blogs which don’t show up in this feed.
And you also miss the blogs that aren't posted in communities at all.

The third way I curate is via tags. I have a few tags of subjects I'm interested in. These tag feeds give me all the blogs with that tag. The advantage of this method is that you also see the posts that are posted in communities you don't follow or aren't in the communities you follow. The main disadvantages are that you also get blogs with low effort and blogs where people wrongly add tags.

Managing three different ways is very time consuming. It still gives me a lot of blogs I don’t want to upvote and I also have the idea that I miss a lot of interesting blogs this way too.

There must be a better way of doing this!

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The idea

After publishing my Rethinking Hive Author Rewards and reading the comments I’ve been thinking on this could be improved.
I think what’s lacking in the front-ends is the possibility for users to customize their feeds. It would be great if we had a way to filter out blogs you don’t upvote anyways and show us only the blogs we would reward in one stream.
Wouldn’t it be great to have a curation tool that could do this? I think it would!
The curation tool would show a stream of all blogs on Hive with the possibility to include and/or exclude posts based on customizable variables. The combination of these variables gives you the possibility to filter out all the blogs you don’t want to curate and only show those on which you do want to vote.

Although the list of variables can be quite long, I’ve selected a few below that I personally find interesting to filter.

1: Current rewards (adjustable)
This variable would allow you to filter out all the posts that have more than a certain amount of rewards. This way you can filter out all posts of which you think have enough rewards.
Do you want to reward under rewarded posts? Then set this value to something like < $5

2: Creation time (addjustable)
This is a variable to filter out blogs that have just been published and/or blogs that are over a certain number of hours/days old.
The minimum would be to prevent showing blogs that are recently created. Most of these might have no rewards yet, but when auto-votes kick in (usually within an hour or two) the blogs could get high rewards anyway.
The maximum would be to filter out blogs that are already a couple of days old.
You might want to set something like: Older than 3 hours, not older than 24 hours.

3: Minimum number of words/characters (adjustable)
A low number of characters often is a sign of a low effort blogs (with some exceptions like video blogs). You might for instance want to filter out all the blogs that are under 200 words.

4: Tags (include/exclude)
This one works just like the tags feeds some front-ends already have, but I would like the option to add more tags and make an SQL-like query. Here are some examples:
#photograpy AND #nature
#photography OR #nature
#photograpy AND #nature AND NOT #travel
NOT #crypto AND #gaming

5: Communities (include/exclude)
Same as tags, but then with communities.

6: Users (include/exclude)
Same as tags, but then with users.

7: Reputation level (hardcoded/adjustable)
Although a reputation level doesn’t tell a lot, you might want to filter out rep level < 25 since that indicates that the user received a lot of downvotes.

These are some of the variables I have come up with which at least would help me have a more custom feed with the blogs I want to curate.

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Future options

I think we have to start small, but I have some big ideas 😀
The possibilities are almost endless. I've already thought about some future options that might be useful for the tool:

  • Adding additional post metrics for instance post/comment ratio
  • Saving your default preferences
  • Saving multiple sets of preferences
  • Sharing a set of preferences with others

If you have any ideas about what could be a useful feature for the curation tool, please let us know in the comments!

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Possible benefits

A curation tool like I described above could really make a change on Hive I think. It would give manual curators a custom made feed that shows them blogs of people they otherwise probably wouldn’t have seen. This is also beneficial for authors that are new on Hive since quality blogs would be shown to the curators that are interested in them regardless if you have built up a network or not.
Instead of upvoting the ones you follow or the hot and trending posts, curators could also focus on other (possibly) high quality posts that are a couple of hours old, but haven’t received many rewards yet.
This could result in the rewards of the reward pool being better spread across multiple blogs.
The tool could result in more rewards for new users that add something to Hive which would help retain new users better.

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How to continue from here?

OK, I have this idea for a curation tool, but how to continue from here? I’m not a programmer!
So that’s why I just threw the idea out to @ecoinstant in the chat during one of the Crypto and Cola podcast shows.

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Eco has already built me a delegation tool and a tipping tool, so I knew he has the connections and also know he is into building synergy on Hive.
A couple of days after the Crypto and Cola show I contacted him and shared a sort of a whitepaper I created of my idea.
We had a little chat and he said the following:

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I was really glad he also thinks this is needed!

We also talked about funding the development of this tool. You might already know his “Is this worth money?” series where he and his team of developers build tools for everyone that has a good idea.
And I really think this idea is worth money. Hive will benefit from this in the form of better curation and how I see it, this can have a positive impact on user retention.

There is an English saying: "Nothing comes for free.", but I prefer the Dutch version: “Only the sun rises for free”. Eco is enthusiastic about the idea and does want to start building the tool. But he does need to pay some developers to get started. He has asked me if I could do a fundraiser to collect 100 USD, so he could get someone to start working on this curation tool.

I hope we could get this thing started and I don't know where this would end, but I say; let's give it a try!

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The fundraiser

Why a fundraiser? Why not? It’s a quick and easy way of collecting enough money to start this project. Yes, we could have created a DHF proposal, but that would take a lot of preparation and we need to get some whales to vote on the proposal as well.
And we ‘only’ need $100 to get started. I think we can find enough supporters for this project to raise the amount.
Be aware that $100 will not be enough to create a complete tool with all the ideas I mentioned above, but having something to start with and having the possibility to build it out would already be great.

I’ve made a start by donating $5 myself for this project. So who’s with me?
Who would like to contribute to a curation tool that can help Hive thrive?

For the donations I’ve set up a link that I’ve created with one of the other Tools Eco has built together with @thecrazygm ; A tipping tool.
It’s preconfigured with an one HBD tip, but the amount is adjustable.
https://thecrazygm.com//hivetools/give/friendlymoose/1/HBD/HiveCurationTool

You can also use the PeakD tipping to donate funds.

I’ll collect all the HBD and will transfer it to Eco when we reach the $100. If we manage to collect more I will also send that to him of course. I’ll create update posts on the progress of the funding to have some transparency.

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I hope you like the idea and want to contribute so we will be able to start building this potentially great tool! Let's make this red pie chart green!
And even if you’re not a curator yourself, your donation can help create a tool that supports fairer rewards and better content visibility on Hive. That benefits the whole ecosystem.

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Spread the word!

If you like this idea and also want this tool to be developed, please help me to share the word! You can do 7this by reblogging this post, tagging Hivers that also might be interested in this, or talk about it in Discord channels and podcasts!
The more people know about it, the more chance we have this really will become a great tool!

Let’s build something together that makes Hive even better. Every donation helps—big or small.

Friendlymoose

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Thank you for tagging. I'm currently in no capacity to engage in any deeper activities, however, I'm happy to share my thoughts.

I just skimmed through your post, sorry if I'll repeat your points. I believe this is one of the greatest opportunities for AI on HIVE. Feed curated by customizable AI algorithm would be great to find new, valuable authors. I believe this is a major obstacle in growth of Hive as a social media/blogging platform, it's hard to be found and many people just resign after few weeks. Personally I'd like to see also how much of earned money is kept as HP to vote for community members, who won't dump these vote on me few weeks later.

Another idea I had would be button on profile that would lead directly to "introduceyourself" post. There is major deficiency on Hive in terms of popularizing Hive culture, and if you don't have somebody to guide you, you are basically lost. This is all work for frontends to gather that data in a way that would answer to these challenges. Work of the community gives just linear growth in these matter.

There is one more great job fo AI on Hive. Helpbot. Something really simple, that would answer all newcomers' questions.

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Thank you for tagging. I'm currently in no capacity to engage in any deeper activities, however, I'm happy to share my thoughts.

You're welcome! And thanks for engaging!
I thought you'd might be interested in this topic too and I seemed to be right about that 😃
We don't need any help in activities at the moment. I'm just trying to raise funds to get this project started.

There is one more great job fo AI on Hive. Helpbot. Something really simple, that would answer all newcomers' questions.

I totally afree with you. An AI that answers questions would be very cool. Not only for newcomers though. There are new projects too that even I want to ask questions about.

AI could be something that could be addded to the curation tool too. Although that is nog the main idea for now. AI might also become costly when it will be used on a large scale. But maybe the DHF could be used for that.

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I totally afree with you. An AI that answers questions would be very cool. Not only for newcomers though. There are new projects too that even I want to ask questions about.

I didn't imply asking would be forbidden for older users :D

Soon running text LLMs will be practically free, but it would be nice to connect it somehow with RCs, just to avoid potential attacks. Maybe witnesses could run LLMs and RCs would limit usage then. Another incentive for holding HP :) IDK, I'm just spitballing ideas.

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I didn't imply asking would be forbidden for older users :D

I know. Your idea just triggered me.

I'm just spitballing ideas.

I like it. This is the way how we can move forward as a platform. We need to keep improving!

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Content discovery is a weak point of Hive. I think communities and tags may be the best options for now, but being able to tune those feeds might help. The requirements may differ between wanting to give out votes and actually wanting to read posts.

I do think that the massive communities are fairly useless and I tend to ignore them. I see more use in communities with a specific focus so you can get enthusiasts actually engaging with each other. They should worry less about the votes if they get value in other ways, as they would on platforms that don't pay.

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Thanks for sharing your 2cents.
Tags can be nice but are also abused.
I am a bit reluctant to follow more communities because that could 'mess up' my community feed.
And 'newbies' might not have found the niche communities we're following. I still see quite some cycling blog not being posted in my Cycling Community. Either because the user doesn't know of the existence or the blog has multiple subjects, for instance a a cycling holiday post in the Worldmappin community.

And I could check the #cycling tah, but then I might want to filter out the #actifit posts (This is just an example to show a use case of the curation tool by the way).

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Ohhh ...  What a surprise to find myself linked in this post, @friendlymoose.  By one of the accounts having the greatest impact on my short time here actively participating on Hive, when I clearly am not in the same league as the others on the list.

Say nothing in response?  That seems a dereliction of duty, if nothing else.  Even more so, when I have now read every word of your post and wholeheartedly agree with its objective!  Here is one of them:

"This is also beneficial for authors that are new on Hive since quality blogs would be shown to the curators that are interested in them regardless if you have built up a network or not."

For obvious reasons, this caught my attention.  Why?

"The tool could result in more rewards for new users that add something to Hive which would help retain new users better."

Yes, I understand the original statement of what this blockchain is all about - getting rewarded ...  Yes, that is certainly nice, but personally I would say as important is that this represents your post even got read.  Ideally, followed by some sort of interaction with the reader.


Okay ...  So, in the hopes it might stimulate some OGs to support your efforts, I guess I better write something more, from the perceptions of a new account on this blockchain:

  • "Because of these shortcomings people are presented with blogs that already have a lot of rewards (hot, trending feed) or vote for the people they regularly vote on (following feed). Both are bad for vote distribution."

  • Yes.  This is painfully obvious to any new account, with even a minimum level of attention to detail.  And you are bringing up this shortcoming after how long has this blockchain been in existence?  An open question, not targeted at you personally.

  • "In the aforementioned blog I also mentioned some of the developers of the major front-ends (Ecency, PeakD) to share their opinions on this matter, but unfortunately they didn’t join the discussion."

  • This is just sad.  To any account, let alone a new account, what does this say about the Hive blockchain, in general?  Or to the objective of your post, in particular?

  • "First of all, I’m ‘only’ following just over 300 people. I could follow more people, but I want to keep it manageable."

  • Well, this jumped out to me.  From a time management point of view, at least in doing it any justice, I do not know how I would keep up with following half this number.  Kudos for making the effort!

  • "I think what’s lacking in the front-ends is the possibility for users to customize their feeds."

  • I agree 100%, with this, the main point of your post.  Given the vital nature of curation to the health of the Hive blockchain, I would suggest going beyond this and I'll see how succinctly and clearly I can state why:

    • From my background, KPIs are important. A critical aspect of them is how quickly one is presented with an executive summary of them, leading to making very important follow-up decisions.

    • I firmly believe what we might call the "out in the light" concept has enormous behavior modification power.  So, if your idea ever comes to life, right behind it, I would love to see a KPI indicating the set of criteria going into every single HP invested in curation.

    • Setting right next to say an account's rep number on their profile, all would quickly be clear as to what that account is actually all about.  And, with it, how closely that would align with what they claim to be all about.

    That is enough out of me.


    In one way of saying it, is my money where my mouth is?


    Source: QT's contribution to bringing "Custom Curation" to life

    A glance at the vast resources from which this contribution was made?  You'll find out how close others come to matching it.


    Thank you for writing this post, @friendlymoose.  I hope it gets the attention and results in the thoughtful consideration it deserves.

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personally I would say as important is that this represents your post even got read. Ideally, followed by some sort of interaction with the reader.

My original idea was to make a tool that could help with selecting the content for curation, but it does also serve as a tool to find content to engage with. Good point. This makes the tool even more useful.

This is just sad. To any account, let alone a new account, what does this say about the Hive blockchain, in general?

Large accounts get mentioned a lot. I don't blame them for not reading my blog.

From a time management point of view, at least in doing it any justice, I do not know how I would keep up with following half this number. Kudos for making the effort!

I don't think all of these accounts are still active. But I certainly don't check every post of every followers. Some people I started following for their photography started posting in other communities too and their posts 'pollute' my following feed. But u following them seems unpolite as well.
Another reason for 'the tool'.

Thank you for writing this post, @friendlymoose. I hope it gets the attention and results in the thoughtful consideration it deserves.

Thank you for your contributions. Both your feedback as your sponsorship!

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Its really this simple. This is needed.

I'm sending you some funds as well.

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Thank you for your generous contribution mate! I knew you would like the idea!

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Yeah, this would be very useful. And it would be easy to code if it was done as part of an existing front-end.

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All the search parameter suggestions sound perfect, just one question, is the planned tool going to be a stand alone one on a separate website which would need ongoing funding for hosting. My only concern would be that without a tool like this being integrated into the current popular front-ends (eg peakd, ecency) it would get low usage and eventually end up neglected, like many other tools have been. I struggle to remember tools that aren't integrated into Peakd, which is the main front-end I use. As an example, Deeann recently mentioned how quick and easy it was to look into accounts and see what their wallet history is like, however, I have no idea how to do this. I'm guessing there are tools separate to the main front-ends but the average user doesn't know about them and can't easily find them.

Now on the one hand we could ask if it even matters, because it's mainly just curators who want to use a tool like this, but I'd argue that there are actually a broad spectrum of people who would want to use this.

Now at this point I realise that I might be venting my frustrations at not being able to find out where to answer some of the questions I have from the conversations on your last post on this topic in the limited time I have on here. 😅

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My only concern would be that without a tool like this being integrated into the current popular front-ends (eg peakd, ecency) it would get low usage and eventually end up neglected, like many other tools have been.

I share your concern. @ecoinstant already mentioned something about a possible integration into front-ends.
But let's start one step at a time. First we need to gather funds to make a tool that works and shows it adds value to Hive 😊

Now on the one hand we could ask if it even matters, because it's mainly just curators who want to use a tool like this, but I'd argue that there are actually a broad spectrum of people who would want to use this.

I came up with the idea as a curator, but such a tool could indeed benefit consumers of blogs and stimulate engagament as well.

Now at this point I realise that I might be venting my frustrations at not being able to find out where to answer some of the questions I have from the conversations on your last post on this topic in the limited time I have on here. 😅

Time is a scarce resource. That might be the issue why this isn't already integrated in any front-end yet.
Thank you for taking your time to comment on this blog 👍

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A curation tool like I described above could really make a change on Hive I think. It would give manual curators a custom made feed that shows them blogs of people they otherwise probably wouldn’t have seen.

OK, I have this idea for a curation tool, but how to continue from here? I’m not a programmer!

And I really think this idea is worth money. Hive will benefit from this in the form of better curation and how I see it, this can have a positive impact on user retention.

Yeah buddy, I agree with you that a Hive dApp like this can have a positive impact on user retention and a better distribution of tokens from the rewards pool.

In fact, and if I remember correctly, there were some dApps in the history of our blockchain that specialized in precisely what you have described and are now looking for. So I'm guessing you're looking for something more or less like this below:

So, if my hunch is correct and something similar to this is what you're looking for. Then just let me know and I can give you additional information about the Hive users you could contact to bring your idea to life as quickly and as cost-effectively as possible.

Cheers!!

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In fact, and if I remember correctly, there were some dApps in the history of our blockchain that specialized in precisely what you have described and are now looking for.

🤯
I didn't know there was such a tool!
This indeed looks like somethingnI had in mind!
Is it still working?
@ecoinstant, check this out!

Then just let me know and I can give you additional information about the Hive users you could contact to bring your idea to life as quickly and as cost-effectively as possible.

Yes please!

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Yes please!

¿Yes please? ...Uhm, ok. But to move forward with this matter, you're going to have to answer a very serious and important question for me first.

Seeing that you've upvoted every comment on this post... I ask you: ¿Why was my comment the only one you didn't upvote?

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Why was my comment the only one you didn't upvote?

That was not on purpose. I'm upvoting every engaging comment normally. But I'm commenting and curating from my phone at the moment, so I sometimes miss some things.

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Fair enough bro. So, don't take this the wrong way mate. But as you can understand, given the facts, I had to ask that question given the multiple and diverse answers you could have given me.

Alright! right now I'm heading directly to hit the sack. Almost 24hrs in a row in a state of wakefulness. Therefore I'll come back to this post in about eight hours so I can get into the nitty-gritty with a little more energy, focus, and coherence.

Meanwhile poke harder and a bit more to @ecoinstant to check how is going his memory these days.

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Ive never seen the thing you screen shotted. Send github repo, website link, account on Hive... Basically anything other than a screen shot and it might even be useful to me!

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Okay, I'm back!!

Not at my Top, but whatevah.

So, let's see:

I didn't know there was such a tool!

Well yes, in fact there was one and it wasn't the only one.

This indeed looks like somethingnI had in mind!

I imagined it. And so I'm glad it was the case.

Is it still working?

Unfortunately not. Currently, none of these older dApps with these features can be found running online. And therefore they must be rescued, reclaimed, adapted and rebuilt.

Which brings us now to respond directly to the request of Alex:

Send github repo, website link, account on Hive... Basically anything other than a screen shot and it might even be useful to me!

Basically I can provide you with everything you ask for except a link to a website with any version of the application active. As I said before, there's currently no such thing online.

Nonetheless, I will give you that information only and exclusively privately through DM on Discord. You know? Just to prevent malicious onlookers and too nosy snoopers from getting into it. In view that I have some ideas of my own about a couple of extra features I would like to see added and implemented in this newer and revamped "content curation" dApp in which I choose that only authentic & honest "quality curators" know anything about it.

Okay, @ecoinstant. Just confirm me that you're up to the challenge and the task, and that you're also willing to have that private conversation with me. And then, I will proceed to contact you in the next few minutes from your confirmation.

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Ooooh, yes, send me friend request in discord. Unfortunately im on the road with just one posting key or I would updoot you a lot harder bolos.

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I will pick this up for next week's Friday collection of great Hive posts to get the word out a little further ... what I love about this is the ideas that positively identify and incentivize what we want to see on Hive as opposed to the dystopian manner of punishing behavior we don't want to see but no one has been told in advance is not it. We want New Hivers to see that good-quality posts are well-rewarded so that they stay and use good models of how to be community members, we want Mature Hivers to be good models and also be willing to stake up and also spread the wealth, and we want curators to reward accordingly. The ideas you presented here are steps in the right direction.

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Thanks for spreading the word!
I really do think this could have a positive impact on the Hive community too.

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It is right on time ... if the bull market recovers, we want all the new people to be encouraged ... if it doesn't, these kinds of ideas could be the difference between Hive making it, or not ...

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I suppose integration of more search "filters" on our HIVE frontends is complicated as data is stored on the blockchain, but IMO, it's crucial that we have more of them... that should be a top priority, if we plan to continue with a content creation platform for HIVE... I remember that adding the Favourites option was already a huge leap forward, but seeing it not working for months (maybe a year even), was a pity... 😞

Maybe we should put more pressure on the Peakd and Ecency teams? I suppose it's not a priority as a lot of people are using automatic curation tools and not many are manually curating... which is another big topic to discuss...

Btw. that 24-hour window vote should move to at least 48 hours... that we can create filtering posts by views... which is also an important metric that would support posts that are REALLY in demand!

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Thanks for taking the time to react!

Maybe we should put more pressure on the Peakd and Ecency teams? I suppose it's not a priority as a lot of people are using automatic curation tools and not many are manually curating... which is another big topic to discuss...

If we build a tool they would 'only' have to integrate it into their front-ends. I also think this tool could stimulate manual voting since you get a far more tailormade stream.

I agree with you on the 48 hour window, but that is another discussion.

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I have always heard people talking about ...

the so-called ‘circle jerking’

But have no idea what this actually constitutes?

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Large stakeholders upvoting eachothers posts.

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Oh really, was not expecting that answer! thank you

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any circle of accounts that are upvoting each others' posts to the exclusion of any other account. it can be big accounts, and it can be much smaller accounts that are expressly set up for that purpose.

as opposed to voting for people in your network, people that you may have known since the time you started, they may have started at the same time, they contribute value to the chain in one way or another, and you want to acknowledge that and encourage them to stay.

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Ok thanks for this Shani, the second part was interesting as I never got my head around it. People use autovoting to vote for their network and that seemed circle jerking.
This made much more sense, thank you.

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This a great initiative. As pretty much the only person that frequently writes about comics on Hive, all it does is result in unfollows and less than a dollar in rewards unless I get the luck of a whale/curation guild vote. We can't expect Hive to ever grow if only travel/photography really gets the attention here. And newcomers that arrive and try to write about their (on Hive, niche) interests and get zero engagement are only going to rightfully pack up and move on.

At this rate we are on an inevitable dry up of Hive posters as the lucky few get their fun and the rest of Hive slowly gives up. Then we'll be asking where the remaining 4k hive posters went and why we are getting exchange delistings from nobody noticing we exist ;^)

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This tool could give you a stream without photography and travel 👍

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Sorry to join the conversation, the vast majority of your comic posts are actually relatively well paid. It doesn't mean they don't deserve more. I said, "relatively."

If you complain, imagine the vast majority of users. It regularly has the biggest whales upvoting its posts. And well!

About the newbies, you are absolutely right. However, we are on a blockchain and the ledger is open. It's easy to see that those who have been with HIVE the longest don't help new accounts. With happy exceptions.

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the vast majority of your comic posts are actually relatively well paid.

Oh yeah that's why I specified the fact that it's only if I get that luck of a curation guild upvote, (curie, appreciator, etc.) more the intention to highlight the fact that there's not really a community of posters for that sort of thing.

Newcomers don't have the rep nor connections to really get the attention of those guilds, so if they're already posting something very niche here in a community that's essentially dead then they're likely to get discouraged incredibly fast when they don't just miss out on rewards, but also the engagement. The rewards are only half of the problem when nobody is there to comment on your stuff because they just don't relate to any of it.

I just mentioned the comics thing since I often use the search function on peakd to try to find others that do something similar to me and there's next to nothing. Yet that industry is massive with plenty of discussions over on web2.0 platforms. Another good comparison is the world of art: again really small on Hive but massive on web2.0 with incredibly good engagement.

Basically my point being if Hive can't grow beyond travel/photography (and I love posting about both of those myself) then we're really limiting the potential we have and could easily just stagnate or worse: spiral into a user decline over time as more people move on than we gain.

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Luck is needed for everything, and it's no different here 🙂

Everything else you mention, 100% agreement.🤝

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Luck is needed for everything, and it's no different here 🙂

Yep! I think that's why we do see more attention towards the photography/travel stuff in the first place. It's not that it's necessarily the most interesting or engaging stuff to post (though it does appeal to quite a larger demographic compared to more niche topics do like food or music), just that it happens to be what does increase the odds to getting the rewards/engagement compared to the rest. Everyone's running to where most of the life is found. Not surprising at all ;^)

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A social network lives off blogging. I think that is the main essence. That's why travel and photography publications get more support.

I can only think this way. That's the reading I do. Even because I wonder why the biggest whales support this type of publication more.

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I really like this idea. For a long time, people (myself included) have been wondering how to make different and more useful feeds that can help discover new interesting authors, as well as help connect people. This could very well be one such tool.

As others have commented, I also think it has to be done independently of any frontend and in a way that frontends can plug into. Your idea of saving your sets of preferences and sharing them with others can also be accomplished via custom_json, again in a way that works across frontends.

I would be keen to volunteer some time to help build this and I think it makes sense to do it as a HAF app. Also I could help with hosting it. Is there any place where the team that will be building it is hanging out at?

Edit: Actually, potentially these feeds could be additions to Hivemind which provides the current feeds.

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Thank you for commenting!

I would be keen to volunteer some time to help build this and I think it makes sense to do it as a HAF app. Also I could help with hosting it. Is there any place where the team that will be building it is hanging out at?

I'm not involved in the building nor hosting of the tool. I'm 'just' the one that tries to get this idea into a working tool by gathering funds 😊
But I'll tag @ecoinstant

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Love the idea, and yes HAF is perfect for it!

Depending on the order of things, including your work and help, we might get a quick "mvp" out just to get the community talking.

If these alternative feeds (based on seven or more levers that the curator can select) gain traction - we really should build a HAF app. Altho, thats not exactly a hundred dollar job.

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Looking at Hivemind, I guess that seems the most proper place for something like this. Since it already has the existing feeds and new ones could be added. I'll ping you on Mattermost to discuss more.

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The idea is good, but actually, how many blogs you can read per day? Are you sure that you're reading absolutely all that you're curating? I mean, does anyone notice that Ecency introduce a view counter, and in many many cases the topics have hundreds of votes but no one view. So, people are able to read in the measure has vote power to use?

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I read this earlier today and again just now in Ecency mobile and my view counter is still showing zero here.

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The idea is good, but actually, how many blogs you can read per day? Are you sure that you're reading absolutely all that you're curating?

Thanks!
I try to read most I'm curating. But a lot of time is 'lost' by finding the interesting blogs. We can all save by a tool that filters the posts we are really interested in. Some other Hivers already commented that this might not only be a curation tool, but rather a content discovery tool.
People could also use it to find and engage with the comment they like.

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I understand your point, but I am not a developer, but what you want is not easy. The only way you could got what you wish is training an AI with your own information of what is "good enough" and what not.

But basically I see or I feel that you're really looking for is the "fair play" in the rewards issue. I agree with you, I see so many post with big rewards because whales loves some people 😆 and is not fair that new people that make decent contest got nothing.

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I very much like the idea, and I could see it being very well appreciated by curators. I've noticed, and felt frustration around, the limitations of the feeds on the frontends that I frequent. I'm glad Eco-Alex and his team is on the job, as he's extraordinary in his prodigious productivity with assorted Hive tools. My good friend and partner in two projects, who is an excellent coder, @borniet, might be a able to help, if he can find the time. 😁 🙏 💚 ✨ 🤙

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Thank you!

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You're very welcome, my friend! I very much appreciate what you do! 😁 🙏 💚 ✨ 🤙

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Nice idea, I think @slobberchops has done some similar coding for his own purposes (to find accounts that met certain parameters to vote on), he may be able to contribute some ideas.

I've sent an HBD tip to you via keychain. I would have used the tip jar tool but it requires me to create an account, I can see the value in that for non-hive users, but I don't want more accounts 😂.

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Now you mention it, I've seen one of his posts. He even shared one of the scripts he uses.
Thanks for the generous contribution! You shouldn't have to create an account for the tip jar. It uses Keychain as well.

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Okay, I've just checked. I can't see where tip jar refers to keychain? Sorry if I'm being dense!

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If you add your username in the from field, your Keychain browser plugin should popup when you click on send transaction :)
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A Wake-Up Call: Accountability and Redemption in the Hive Ecosystem

To those who believe their actions on the Hive blockchain go unnoticed, it’s time to confront the truth. The power you think you wield through downvotes, vote farming, and manipulation is an illusion. True strength lies in doing what’s right, not in exploiting systems for personal gain or silencing others out of fear.


1. The Illusion of Power Through Exploitation

If you’re downvoting critics, running coordinated farms, or hoarding influence to control rewards, ask yourself: What does this say about your character? Manipulating Hive’s reward system doesn’t make you powerful—it exposes vulnerabilities. It shows a reliance on unethical tactics to feel significant in a space that was meant to empower everyone equally.

But here’s the reality: these actions won’t bring lasting satisfaction. At night, when you’re alone with your thoughts, do you truly believe what you’re doing is right? Regret has a way of lingering, and no amount of HIVE tokens can silence the voice inside telling you there’s a better path.


2. The Ripple Effect of Your Actions

Your choices don’t just harm Hive—they affect the people around you. Your online friends may follow along now, but loyalty built on shaky foundations crumbles quickly. And what about your family? Do they understand how much energy you pour into behaviors that ultimately hurt others and yourself?

Every action has consequences, and the deeper you dig, the harder it becomes to climb out. You’re not just harming Hive—you’re pulling those close to you into a cycle of negativity and regret. Is it worth it?


3. Change Before It’s Too Late

The Bilpcoin team isn’t here to attack individuals—we’re here to spark change. We’ve seen the evidence, and we know the impact of manipulative practices. But we also believe in redemption. There’s still time to step back, reflect, and choose a different path.

Ask yourself:

  • What legacy do you want to leave on Hive?
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  • Wouldn’t it feel better to contribute positively rather than exploit and divide?

Hive deserves better. So do you.


4. Strength Lies in Doing What’s Right

Real power comes from integrity, not manipulation. Instead of focusing on how many tokens you can farm or how many users you can silence, consider how you can add value to the ecosystem. Create meaningful content, support genuine contributors, and advocate for reforms that benefit everyone—not just a select few.

If you continue down your current path, remember this: you are being watched. Many stay silent, but they see everything. Blockchain data doesn’t lie, and accountability always comes knocking—whether today, tomorrow, or years from now.


5. A Final Plea: Fix What Needs Fixing

It’s never too late to change course. Stop the farming, stop the toxicity, and start contributing to Hive in ways that uplift rather than tear down. If you’re struggling with why you’ve chosen this path, take a moment to reflect. Seek help if needed—there’s no shame in admitting you’ve lost your way.

The Hive community is watching, waiting, and hoping for positive change. Will you rise to the occasion, or will you let regret define your journey? The choice is yours.


From the Bilpcoin Team: We’re committed to helping Hive thrive by exposing the truth and fostering transparency. Let’s work together to build a stronger, fairer ecosystem—one where everyone has a chance to succeed.

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Addressing the Downvote Issue on Hive: It’s Time for Real Change

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Let’s cut through the noise and address one of the most pressing issues holding Hive back from reaching its full potential: abusive downvotes. The Bipcoin team has consistently exposed the systemic problems that stifle growth on this platform, yet little to no action has been taken. If Hive is to thrive, we must confront these challenges head-on instead of engaging in empty discussions that lead nowhere.

Hive cannot grow if nothing changes. How can new users and smaller creators flourish when they are constantly suppressed by those who exploit the system? Many so-called “whales” contribute nothing meaningful to the ecosystem—instead, they focus solely on farming rewards through manipulative tactics like mass self-voting, spam content, or coordinated downvoting campaigns. These actions discourage genuine participation and erode trust within the community.

Blockchain transactions don’t lie. We’ve seen firsthand the shady methods used to game the system—whether it’s creating alt accounts to amplify votes, orchestrating downvote brigades, or hoarding influence without giving back to the network. Why does this behavior continue unchecked? Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words, and until concrete steps are taken to address these abuses, Hive will struggle to move forward.

We have repeatedly presented evidence of these practices, not to divide but to demand accountability. The truth is out there for anyone willing to look at the data. Yet, despite our efforts, the cycle persists. Today, we’re asking again: Can we finally talk about the real issues plaguing Hive? And more importantly, can we take decisive action to protect the integrity of this platform?

Do not let bullies destroy what makes Hive special. Abuse of power through downvotes and manipulation harms everyone—creators, curators, and the community as a whole. It’s time to fight back against these toxic practices and create an environment where all voices can be heard and rewarded fairly.

The Bipcoin team remains committed to exposing the truth and advocating for meaningful change. But we can’t do it alone. Together, let’s push for solutions that ensure Hive becomes a place of opportunity, fairness, and growth—for everyone.

Enough talk. Let’s see action.

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You mentioned you tried to talk with Ecency's developers but you haven't had a response from them, but have you tried to talk with @melinda010100? I think she's not a developer but she is an Ecency's team member, she could help with that.

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I haven't talked with any of the developers. I've mentioned them in one of my posts about improvement of the feeds and also in their discord channels. But they might be busy with a lot of other things.

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Yeah, recently they were busy with an update for their mobile app, but they already released it. You can try again and maybe you have a response this time.

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Curation has an amplified effect because the promotion begets more curation. If users have the option of determining their priorities for what posts they see then curation reflects the users more! This lessens the power of curation behemoths and raises the power of the mass of users.

If the big front-ends embrace this then they are serving the users and adding value to the chain. Ideally, a new front-end to see your cultivated feed would not be necessary. Have you considered putting this in pull requests to these?

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