HIVE Tokenomics Many Important Things Need To Be Addressed

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The market is bad enough, but when we see the inflationary figures as they are we need to adjust our actions accordingly. If you change an APR like what happened with HBD surely you monitor that this is sustainable.

Looking at the HIVE inflation from a simple logical and common sense point of view certain elements need to be addressed and changed. What we are witnessing with the HIVE price is not just market related, but is also self inflicted by what I would call incompetence or to be more kind a lack of understanding. If HIVE was a private company whoever was running it would be fired and replaced with someone who had an understanding of how to fix this.

This may not be a popular post for some, but people in the community need to speak up and call this for what it is. We are all affected by this so we should all be vocal. I am a proud member of the HIVE community and have worked my socks off not to see it destroyed through sheer stupidity and naivety. What is happening is too obvious and why I had to do this post due to genuine concern. As a community we can do better and we should not be witnessing the HIVE value we are seeing currently and heaven help us if we go lower and make no immediate changes. There is no time to play and procrastinate as the time for action is now.

I love my numbers and the numbers should be talking to you with you asking the questions why? What we have with HIVE and what it offers and how it operates is unique and there is going to be problems. Unfortunately the problems we are seeing is too obvious and is a result of over spending, thinking we are a bigger more valuable blockchain that the reality. The HIVE cow cannot be milked at the same rate we were at 3 or 4 years ago and that rate needs to be adjusted. Much like a country that has unchecked inflation that currency is directly impacted and loses value. Like I said the HIVE price is not just because the markets are down and the inflation we have here currently is also having a negative impact.

This Can Be Fixed So Do Not Panic

Lets just tackle the obvious problems and that is the spend that is taking place under the guise of marketing and development which is meant to be in HIVE's best interest. The spend that the likes if Value Plan are pushing through is actually having the opposite effect and is flooding the exchanges with HIVE at a rate that should never be the case. If we had a market cap of $600 million and not the current market cap of $38 million then things could be handled differently. Value Plan is spending roughly $1.9 million per year which is 5% of the HIVE inflation which when you do the maths this is absolutely absurd and should have been adjusted to the market cap a long time ago.

HIVE is not a rich block chain and is actually quite the opposite and those in positions making decisions on behalf of the community need to wake up and apply common sense when it comes to decision making. As a blockchain in our current state we cannot afford the luxury of funding a rally car and this should be placed on hold permanently until such time price says we can continue.

A 5% marketing budget is massive and even when HIVE bounces back to 20c or 40c or higher we should have a spending cap as a percentage and not an open book. Just because a proposal is voted on by the community it does not mean it is in the best interest of the community and they should be properly informed about the spend. If the community is aware of where we are financially then surely the decisions made would be different.

I heard the other day over the last 3 years HIVE inflation has been at 11%. 9.5% and now 12%. The spend that is happening is not taking into account of the value of the HIVE token. HIVE is over 20% currently and we are not that far off from having HBD affected.

This image was taken from @tobetada's post Hive's debt above 20 percent
20% of 500 million coins is 100 million new coins being added each year and the coin printer needs to be slowed down.

HBD is another problem and I know the intentions of having a 20% APR and now 15% were good intentions, but again this is hurting HIVE. Currently there is close to 8 million HBD staked at 15% APR is generating another $1.2 million dollars in HIVE value which is an extra 20 million HIVE at todays price. Even if HICE was 20c that APR is still far too high and again this APR should be automatically adjusted with the price of HIVE so we are not creating more inflation. The HBD APR is nearly 3% of HIVE inflation.

The bad thing is we saw HBD dropped from the rewards a few days ago and the next step if it reaches that drastic step is that there is no more HBD generated. Once that happens HBD is no longer guaranteed to hold the $1 peg value and the good name we have always heard about is gone for good as who would trust a stable coin that is not stable. It becomes useless as a store of value and a black mark for HIVE.

We currently have a 4.1% APR for HIVE Power/stake which is also madness and is in no ones best interest to hope this climbs even higher. Big deal you have more HIVE, but the token is losing it's value due to all the combinations listed above. The odd thing is I have not even mentioned the DHF Fund as that is just even more HIVE being spent. Those just voting for spending proposals to change due to not understanding the full picture. We need transparency and honesty with the HIVE inflation and if the budget is blown for the month then it is blown.

The time is now for those in the know to step up and make the right call for the sake of HIVE and the community not thinking of themselves, but for everyone. Sometimes there has to be some pain when change is required and the big calls need to be made.

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Value plan the best expensive here and the return negative and a lot of people milking our platform.
Rlly, publicity water, and a big mistkes making.

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Yes mistakes are definitely being made and as long as they are lessons learned and they are addressed this can all be fixed. HIVE is not broken it is just not in a great place and needs some "medical" attention.

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The irony is that a lot of what’s framed here as reckless spending is actually the cost of pretending this thing is alive. Cutting incentives, cutting visibility, cutting reasons to stay does reduce inflation. It also reduces everything else. You don’t fix a leaking bucket by congratulating yourself for pouring less water in while the hole stays open.

The bucket is leaking because Hive mints value before it proves demand.

The solution (the part nobody wants to say) is boring, uncomfortable, and politically toxic.

Move rewards and funding from entitlement to conditional performance.

Concrete examples:

– Proposals that unlock funds in tranches only after verifiable outcomes
– Automatic downgrade or expiration of recurring payouts
– Visibility rewards tied to external usage, not internal applause
– Reputation that decays without ongoing contribution
– Soft caps that scale with real demand, not social standing
Less social policing, more mechanical enforcement

In short:
pay for results and not for "presence".

The reason this doesn't happen is because it would threaten the incumbents, break social alliances at the top, reduce free money for popular actors, remove plausible deniability,and force people to justify their continued extraction. But instead, "the system" chooses austerity for everyone else.

The solution isn't complex, it's just... inconvenient. That’s why the debate never goes where it needs to go.

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This had got to a point where things need to be addressed or those who have invested into HIVE and are earning HIVE will have no value left. The individualist mindset cannot continue along this path as it is self destructive long term and this is more about community and making something work they way it should that is inclusive of everyone. I am rightly concerned and why I voiced my concerns not to create a problem or upset anyone in the process, but more about stating the obvious and lets find a way to fix this before it is broken.

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You’re right to be concerned, and I agree this isn’t about attacking individuals. My point is that “community” only works when incentives are aligned with outcomes. If we keep funding presence/vibes/popularity instead of results, we end up protecting the system from accountability rather than protecting the value people are investing their time and money into.

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I'm kind of glad I pulled most of my savings out of HBD a bit ago. It just feels like there isn't any urgency.

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Yes it also shows your level of understanding and how you also care. I have only 7 HBD staked and seems kind of pointless to remove it.

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Yeah, kind of pointless. I've been thinking about pulling a bit more out, but I really don't have too much left at this point.

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yo @cryptoandcoffee spot on, man— Hive tokenomics really needs a hard reset🔥
Reward curve kills small creators, curation too whale-heavy, inflation still hurts.
If I could fix one thing tomorrow:flatten the curve a bit for new authors + more incentives for diverse curation.
What’s YOUR #1 fix?
Solid post bro, this convo needs to keep going
#leofinance #hive #tokenomics

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yup I've been advocating lower hbd apr for long time. It was meant to attract outside investment but in the end it's just free money being printed with low risk and just taking out of ecosystem in the end

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Thank you for posting this ! It's something I've been banging on about for a while, but I'm a small player so don't have a lot of traction.

We need to stop spending money, get inflation under control and build market capital back up, it's that simple.

The changes I'd love to see, although it may need a hardfork and split to make it happen are;

  • With the exception of core coding, the DHF should issue loans not grants.
  • All proposals should have a financial business case to show how they generate revenue or market cap, and how (and over what timescale) they'll repay the DHF loan. In most cases, proposals have the ability to generate revenue (often through microtransactional fees or by attracting delegations). The ideal would be proposals that don't go through the DHF at all, with the revenue paying the developers after launch.
  • DHF spend should be algorithmically capped to match what is affordable, with the available amount being issued as % shares to approved projects.
  • Projects should be expected to market themselves externally. Any marketing spend should be to online channels with measurable ROI (Google Ads, Facebook Ads etc), not vague branding exercises to allow individuals to pursue their hobbies at Hive's expense.
  • It's hard and won't be popular, but I think HBD interest should be gradually reduced to a sustainable figure. Once it's there, I think the interest should be arrived at algorithmically (a kind of inverse of inflation). After all, it's supposed to be an algorithmic stablecoin ! I also wonder if the interest should be in diminishing bands, so that smaller savers get the most benefit.
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Spending 5% of total inflation on marketing when the market cap is this low is a massive gamble on ROI that isn't clearly reflecting in the price.

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