Pride Hath a Fall in Indo-Pak War
Someone would doubt your patriotism if you haven't tuned in to news within this war situation. Why? Because it was affecting all of us mentally, and the international media was also covering this issue. This might disturb the whole region, and allies could indulge in war situations too. Now, the point to be pondered is the role of media portrayed in both countries. I stayed tuned to both Indian and Pakistani news channels to know the reality. What I have observed and my unbiased viewpoint are what you are going to read in this blog.
Pride Hath a Fall
You must know the causes of this war and, openly, its fake propaganda. The Pahalgam attack was a terrorist attack, and no doubt the lives of civilians were lost; in our religion, such an act is not appreciated. So, the Modi government wanted to take revenge by attacking Pakistan, most importantly targeting civilian people, including the Imam Masjid and 6-year-old siblings. Dropping bombs on mosques and claiming terrorists were there is unethical and must be condemned. After this, India thought that Pakistan wouldn’t respond to this, like, are we sacrificial lambs? India sent the most expensive Rafael fighter, which was destroyed by the Pakistan Air Force, and believe me, it was their worst defeat ever. It was a point of thought for analysts who believed these weapons would ensure their victory, but they don’t know how to use them. India must accept the weakness of their pilots, who didn’t know how to operate these fighter jets. No doubt they showed armed power by sending nil pilots. It was a time of shame for India. Why did they get destroyed? The reason was their detection in Pakistan’s airspace; radar identified them, and shot them down. Pakistan won 6-0. Coming to the Harop, which was Israeli technology, it was shot down by civilians using AK-47s, so what sort of technology is it? How are you going to fight superpowers? We have heard that pride hath a fall, but it was shown practically when a country investing billions in purchasing military equipment failed on the practical field.
Courage, Capacity, and Capability
Now, coming to the situation that happened at twilight as a response from Pakistan against the violation by India. Why was it needed? Because we have the courage, capacity, and capability to combat anyone. As a nuclear superpower, we can’t leave a single stone unturned in our paved path toward success. These attempts are just failures for enemies. The Pakistani military is sent internationally to save people, no matter who they are or what religion they belong to. Our religion is humanity. If we were to sit silent, which we can’t do historically, some cowardly crows might make headlines about this, so a strong response was essential. Now, Indian media started spreading false news that Pakistan attacked them. The real mission began on 10 May when Pakistan launched Operation Bunyan al-Marsoos, meaning a strong, iron-filled wall, and shot missiles named Al-Fateh 1 and 2, which hit distinct airfields in India. Within minutes, the public saw JF-17 Thunder fighters hovering in the skies, hitting their targets one after another. Electricity was gone due to a strong cyberattack; Udhampur, Uri supply depot, and Adampur airfield were destroyed. Within minutes, black clouds depicted that something serious had happened, but the Indian media didn’t tell them Pakistan had attacked. They started claiming they had attacked Rawalpindi, Islamabad, and Peshawar. It was social media that informed them of the reality: they had lost 1.3 billion, airfields, and their S-400 and BrahMos missile systems didn't worked when needed. The cyberattack affected 25 websites, including the BJP’s official site. So, what was the Indian media yelling? Fake news, only to get ratings. Later, India requested a ceasefire as they realized their actual power and military strength. International media asked the military chiefs for proof and remnants of their strike, and they had no answer as their fake story and propaganda were exposed. You would see numerous memes and funny clips about the situation, all attaining international popularity.
What to Expect Next
Clearly, the neighbors realized where they stand, and it’s not the first time; it’s been depicted multiple times that Pakistan is not fearful of anything, and we know very well how to combat, even if we are fewer in number. But we don’t have to support fake media. Making movies and earning crores is another game in which India is a pro, but fighting on the battlefield is not their job. A lot of questions the Indian layman wants to ask, and they have every right to, as their money goes in the name of defense. And this military can’t protect them in return; they don’t deserve to live in a fool’s paradise. The next time you have to tackle this situation, don’t lie, bring the facts, accept the reality. This is what a courageous nation does.
I don't understand how 50 things can be factually incorrect in about 800 words. Let me help you correct some of the things with evidence, unlike your fiction.
It wasn't a war, it was an anti-terrorist operation that Pakistan decided to take as a war. Imagine going to a War in support of Terrorist organisations.
https://quran.com/en/at-tawbah/29
Chapter 9, Verse 29:
Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, nor comply with what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor embrace the religion of truth from among those who were given the Scripture, until they pay the tax, willingly submitting, fully humbled.
Pakistani-based Terrorist organisations like Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Muhammad and Hizb-ul-Mujahideen. All of which have headquarters and a safe haven in the country.
Also, if India only attacked civilians, how come some notable terrorists happen to die? That's awfully lucky then?
No such airfields were hit, and did they provide any proof, like a satellite picture, like what the Indian Army showed?
No Indian Jets ever crossed the borders in these 4 days of conflict. If they had crossed and you shot down, you must have some debris of that, care to show?
On the Nights of 8- 9th May, there were swarms of drones spotted inside the Indian airspace, which were neutralised by the S-400 and other Indian defence systems. Why would that not be considered a military operation?
Again, no jets ever crossed the LoC or the International borders. Why would a country risk their Jets and pilots when they have the capacity to shoot targets from inside its own country? There are missiles that have ranges of 400-500 km, you don't need to cross the border to fire them.
Lmao, it is a football game? How did you won 6-0, care to explain?
Again, got any satellite images to show? Like these:
(hope the Gifs load in comments, link)
lol
Yet the same military fails to find Osama Bin Laden, who was living in a big house, only 800 meters away from one of the biggest military bases in Pakistan. Such an amazing Intelligence and Military superpower.
Got any proof, sir? Stop spreading misinformation without any proof. The same Udhampur base was visited by the PM yesterday, there were no signs of any 'destruction'. LOL
Then, how come 11 military bases were targeted by India (you can see the satellite pictures for yourself, yet no military base was hit in India with any significant damage?)
Pakistani DGMO called Indian counterpart. Why would your DGMO call if we requested a ceasefire?
You have started 3 wars with India and lost all of them.
93000 Military personnel surrendered in 1971, which is the worst surrender in terms of no of personnel since the Second World War to this day. Did you surrender without Indian forces fighting? lol
Look who is talking about Military expenditure. A country that spends more in terms of % of their GDP than India on Military (2.8 vs 2.4 in 2023) while their country has been bailed out by the IMF a total of 24 times?
Stop supporting Terrorists.
Get your facts correct and don't just regurgitate things from your media and establishment. Do an unbiased and independent fact-check of everything you see in the media.
One more hilarious thing I noticed is the names of your missiles. Ghaznvi, Gauri etc. These are the same people who plundered, looted, raped and killed your forefather and you name you missiles after them? Such a miserable state of affairs, bro.
I agree with your other points, but let me correct one thing regarding Surah Tawbah Ayat, which you mentioned, and basically, you are saying that Islam teaches terrorism.
Does Surah Tawbah teach terrorism?
ChatGPT said:
No, Surah At-Tawbah (Chapter 9 of the Qur'an) does not teach terrorism. Like many verses in religious texts, it must be understood in its proper historical, linguistic, and theological context.
Key Points:
Surah At-Tawbah was revealed during a time of intense conflict between the early Muslim community in Medina and the pagan Quraysh of Mecca and other hostile tribes.
Many of its verses deal with warfare, treaties, treachery, and the rules of engagement.
These were situational commands aimed at specific enemies who had broken treaties, attacked Muslims, or plotted against them.
Verses such as 9:5 ("the verse of the sword") are often quoted out of context by extremists and critics alike.
The verse says:
"Then when the sacred months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them..."
But this follows verses explaining that these polytheists had broken peace treaties and attacked Muslims first.
Even in Surah At-Tawbah, warfare is conditional:
Against those who broke treaties (9:4)
Only after fair warning (9:5)
If they repent or seek peace, they must be left unharmed (9:6)
“If any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection... then convey him to a place of safety.” (9:6)
Mainstream Islamic scholars across Sunni and Shia traditions reject terrorism as un-Islamic.
They emphasize that Islam permits self-defense, not aggression, and upholds justice, mercy, and peace.
Summary:
Surah At-Tawbah does not teach terrorism. It addresses specific historical conflicts and sets conditions for warfare. Like any sacred text, its verses can be misused by extremists when stripped from context — but that is a misrepresentation, not the true teaching of Islam.
If you're encountering claims or confusion around this topic, I can help break down specific verses or common misconceptions.**
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I disagree.
The whole internet is filled with apologists twisting and turning every word. (Which generative engines like ChatGPT have been trained on, also ChatGPT is not going to hurt any religious sentiments, it is one of their policies.)
I fully understand the context and have done extensive research. I stick to my judgement. I would call a Spade a Spade no matter what.
Agree to disagree, bhai.
So the internet is wrong, and you are right?
Surah tawabah puri live war me release huva tha aur war me ek dusre ko fulo ki malaye nahi pehanai jati.
You should also think by putting yourself in the other person's place to understand the whole thing.
And ye aadhi adhuri line uthake hate mat felao pura chapter dala karo.
Ese to har chij galat hi dikhai degi.
I don't care about what the internet says, I do my own research independently. (If everyone calls a Spider a monkey, would it be a monkey... I hope not)
I would recommend you to read the early interpretations (tafsirs) too and how these verses were (and still are in many cases) taken as commandments for the time immemorial to come. Apologists had to come with 'softer' interpretations just to not sound barbaric and abide by the modern era and human rights.
Ever wondered what motivates many of these terrorists? Not everyone is going to be like that, but certainly these verses help them push over to the other side.
I don't want to get into the debate. Maybe it is my interpretation? Who knows.
I respect your views and I hope you respect mine.
No one is stupid enough to call a spider a monkey.
From where are you doing your research?
Internet?
Share those early interpretations here, I will answer all of them.
If this were true, every Muslim would be a terrorist. And you need to do more research on this topic that who creates terrorist groups and funds them, and you will see the business in it. Regarding the Kashmir issue, all this is happening because of the greed for land old Indo-Pak conflict. And these terrorists who attacked Pahalgam spread this propaganda so that people in India get divided, and congratulations, people like you are also creating division in the country. So we don't need an enemy when we are fighting with each other.
In my view, which I shared, you will never find that I disrespected your religion or your book; that's why you are respecting it.
But I can't respect the thought in which someone calls my religion's holy book a terrorist book. It is my record that I have never said bad words to any religion or any holy book, and I would never accept it.
I also don't want to do this, but you are directly calling the Quran a terrorist book, so that is why I replied. Otherwise, I have no personal issue with you, and I also did not want to debate here.
I don't believe in any religion nor said every muslim is a terrorist.
In short, I will say many religious books like quaran do approach violence in a way that would never be acceptable to a modern liberal view.
No one is fighting. We are just having a civil conversation. Agree to disagree?
(Btw, just one attack wasn't the reason for my views, they were formed before this incident)
Edit: Sorry, I missed one thing. My research were mostly books. Read Tafsir Al Jalayan and Tafsir Ibn Abbas, none of them mentions about the use of context with this quote + they add more hardline interpretation.
Regarding fighting, I meant to say whole country.
I know We are not fighting. Just discussion 👍
How much research have you done on religion?
My brother, the Army of Pakistan, offered to conduct neutral research on this. But, India..........🤪
If you could have spent 10 more seconds and asked ChatGPT, it would have told you.
AlJazeera ReportedChatGPT responseSoon or late, it will be confirmed, and now let's talk more.
Look, ChatGPT is just an AI tool. Now let's see something more if you don't mind.
Visit Dhruv Rathee's latest video and then check the subtitles on the AI tool to test the level of his bias.
Indian media (referred to as Godi Media) and the Indian government denied to attack on civilians in Pakistan. While in the city of Bahawalpur, where one of my closest friends studied at CUVAS University as a Doctor of Veterinary in Bahawalpur, and he is an eyewitness to how 21 innocent civilians were killed in that attack, while none of the terror places were targeted. India calls it Mission Sindoor, a mission of unity across the whole country. 😓 Neither Dhruv Rathee (a sign of trust, facts, and realities on social media) nor the Indian media confessed to these assassinations. You gave your pov for the above blog, but reality is that reality cannot be denied. 😟 And using a sharp shooting fallacy, I wanna ask you, did you know about those jets shot down by the PAF? Yes, that army in the world about which the Indian media closed its eyes. Visit the Telegraph, BOOM, and the Washington Post newspapers. Opens the eye to reality.
Let's see a report of The Telegraph newspaper from AI POV.
The below details are ChatGPT-generated to demonstrate how AI can credit unbiased news reports as biased reports[Image Credits: The Telegraph]The passage presents a news report about recent military tensions between India and Pakistan. While it appears to be aiming for neutrality, certain aspects suggest a subtle bias toward the Pakistani narrative. Here’s a breakdown of how and where this bias shows:
- The article names specific Indian aircraft allegedly downed (Rafale, Su-30, MiG-29) but provides no comparable details about Pakistani operations, equipment, or potential losses, creating a one-sided view of the exchange.
- Pakistan’s version is backed by “officials” (implying a state-level assertion), whereas India's statement is from a single Air Marshal, and even that is vague.
- No international or independent verification of either side’s claims is offered, but the structure gives more perceived weight to Pakistan’s narrative.
- There is no mention of Pakistani losses, defensive or offensive operations, or casualties, which implies unilateral Indian aggression and loss.
- The article references Donald Trump's alleged role as a broker, which shifts the focus to diplomacy over the complexity of the military conflict, subtly downplaying India’s strategic objectives.
Element Effect India's “admission” vs Pakistan’s “claims” Implies guilt on India’s part and truth in Pakistan’s version Detailed Pakistani claims vs vague Indian response Makes Pakistani narrative seem more credible No mention of Pakistani losses Implies India was solely on the losing end Use of authoritative sources Pakistani narrative comes from unnamed officials, India’s from a single quote No scrutiny of Pakistani claims Lacks journalistic balance or verification
- Providing more detail and credibility to their account,
- Using framing that implies Indian concealment or defeat, and
- Failing to balance the perspectives or scrutinize both sides equally.
1. Framing of Admissions and Claims
"India has admitted for the first time..."
This framing implies that India has been concealing information and is now being forced to acknowledge losses. It sets a tone of reluctant honesty on India’s part without equivalent scrutiny of Pakistan's narrative.
"Pakistani officials claimed..." vs "India has refused to confirm or deny..."
The Pakistani claims are reported in detail (including specific aircraft types), while India's response is characterized as evasive or non-transparent. There’s no critical analysis or skepticism toward Pakistan’s claims, which can subtly legitimize them in the reader's mind.
2. Use of Quotation and Language
Air Marshal AK Bharti’s quote:
“We are in a combat scenario, there will be losses…” is presented with no elaboration or supportive evidence. It sounds like an implicit concession. On the other hand, Pakistan’s claims are detailed, implying more credibility or confidence.
"The answer is a thumping yes."
This is a strong statement, but it’s quoted without context or follow-up, which can make it sound hollow or rhetorical, especially when placed next to the specific losses listed by Pakistan.
3. Imbalance in Military Details
4. Authority and Legitimacy
5. Omission of Context
Summary of Bias Toward Pakistan:
Final Assessment:
The article subtly favors the Pakistani narrative by:
For a truly balanced report, both sides' claims should be treated with equal skepticism and supported by either independent verification or clear sourcing.
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Do you even read your own quoted things? Everywhere is says claims*, you can make any claim.
You lost me when you said Dhruv Rathee is unbiased and factual. He is political motivated to say whatever the government of India does, no matter the thing.
Have fun staying in your bubble. ✌️
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The Indian media and the government. They are not in the mood to acknowledge the mistakes and the nonsensical things they have made in the past few days.
Armed forces of Pakistan, especially the PAF, have a history of remarkable achievements from 1965 to 2025. 💙💙💙
Stay in your delusional world. Good luck! ✌️
Chill up, guy, just listen to a nerve-relaxing song. I is just a melody of love 💔
The reason is that I am new to this platform. To bhai abhni ma is platform pr Bacha hoon. Issi liay is baat ko yahan pr hee roktay hain. Agar jinda rahay to gup shup chalti rahay gee.
Love you, meri jan, for such a cool reply.
No abuse, no aggravations, no anger..... just a smily reply 😉
Brother, I am very sorry about this whole situation and I hope you are well with your family.
At the moment I am well! Not sure about future. It's Dec 2022 on replay. God knows how many times we will be stuck in same loop.
I'm glad to know you're okay.