Only on hive
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Our price is literally dieing but here we are spending 1k hbd every day for two different uis
Not to mention how one of the two is engaging in vote selling which is "supposedly" frowned upon. My bad, it's "points" so it's ok! 🤭😀😂 Makes me wonder what would happen to the actual userbase of ecency if said points were removed. It would be a fun experiment to see if throwing them 400 hbd a day is justified 🤭😀 apparently not a thing anymore, my bad.
Regardless, why not let the community pick the best and pay for just one?! Imo, peakd is the easy winner. Still overpaid, but better.
Wishful thinking I guess.
5 cents soon!. LFG
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Well, thinking about a company we need always to pick the cheapest that delivers what we need. I talked a bit about this problem of funding two or more front ends it is insane.
Anyways one options is 87k HBD per year more expensive . Even peakd bringing some differences , both products deliver similar experience. Peaking one of them as preferred would be things that fit you more in your experience. The same of cellphones samsung x apple. Each person will give you a different perspective.
If you own a company for example, which cellphone would you pick to give to your employees? the one that you enjoy more to use it? or the one that cost less ?
I edited my post a bit, I think you have my answer there. In my small network, people like peakd more. And they only use ecency for the votes they get via their point system. Heck, I used to do that as well once upon a time. Imo, their userbase would be zero without them so the answer is simple.
If you ask me, at current prices, neither should be funded. They have made more than enough money all these years to stay in maintenance until we see better days. I mean, their devs love hive right? So they wouldn't mind spending a couple hours per month to keep them alive. And if not, we always have the legacy interface.
I like the mobile app for ecency. I know that you can add peakd using the browser and adding it to your home. But ecency app still is more look a like a mobile app. The advance search of ecency is also better you can find any post using the word that you want and really works better. However for writing a post on pc peakd is nice…
Nice, first time I hear from a legit user. Still, I wonder what would happen to their userbase if ecency points were removed for a month or so.
for sure many users will stop using... I agree!
especially those in the top ranking in engagement. I saw many people around there just because of the points, that rahat (something like that) used to farm points, commenting on all posts of the day lol.
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I use the PeakD app for everything. It's pretty simple.. Hell, even I figured it out
These 1,000 HBD should be used to purchase USDT. And hundreds of thousands of USDT should be used in the HIVE/USDT pool.
I like @null donations more
Five cents is just around the corner, the more we spend the faster it comes. Funding two front ends makes no sense, one's got to be chosen. Too much money is wasted on too many projects, and yet we still see proposals popping up all the time. People just don't seem to understand that spending has consequences.
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LFG!
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Fully understand the argument but if it is going to be PeakD, they need to issue a mobile App both for Androind and iOS. Otherwise you use mobile only users like myself, having published more than 90% of the content via the iOS App by @ecency since I joined 5 years ago.
If I'm not mistaken, Ecency removed the system of selling votes for points; now it's only possible to obtain delegation through points or promote a post on their frontend.
Thanks for clarifying. I'll update the post accordingly
Of course, Points have never been used to buy votes. All Ecency curation is done manually after posts have been reviewed by a team of curators.
LoL
What use is this project to Hive? And what the hell is it you spend 1k everyday for development? Bro! 80% of these funds are going direct to your pocket.
These are the things draining this hive platform. For God's sake, this platform is draining because of unnecessary funding.
Now let me ask; If you were to fund your project personally or directly, tell me the truth, would you spend 1k everyday for 140 days?
What hive needs now is external revenue, not some project that keeps sucking funds
The vote selling thing is wild. Either that or their UI is just that bad they’ll do anything.
There has never been vote selling on Ecency.
Yes there has! Maybe not anymore, but indeed did.
At one time you could use Points to get on a list to be reviewed by curators. Only quality posts were Curated. The curators were cautious about reviewing and giving out votes. But that battle is long past.
I can't remember what happened, but I believe I had some issues running Ecency on my phone. With that said, I think a good phone app is important. I generally use Peakd when I post online, and Ecency from my phone. However, I haven't used the phone app in a really long time.
Currently, Peakd keeps giving me errors when loading posts. I'm using hive.blog to post the last couple of days.
I get the importance of both. We need a STRONG phone app because most people use their phones for accessing content online.
I always felt there was room for both. In the greater scheme of things though, what does Peakd do that can't be accomplished on hive.blog.
Just my two sats.
I always load up my bags during the 5 cent sales. LFG is right! Then up, up, and away! Fingers crossed.
imagine those apps would try to make revenue to cover the development costs because they earn
PeakD FTW!
It’s all about feeding the whales
and not one of those apps want to make any revenue lmao
Last year I planned to buy HIVE a lot when it dropped below 0.07. Today I believe I should wait it drops a lot lower, maybe 0.55.
Maybe next month I will have the number shifted again LoL
Loosing game. Moving mark I mean. I personally wouldn't buy Hive, I'll earn it. I bought 100K in past and I'm glad I sold it for much more than I paid on pumps. Frankly got lucky in 2021 but if ur gonna have a goal or plan , it will never work out if u don't stick to it without emotion when it finally hits. Second, it's much smarter to DCA and buy little bit at a time. Just in general, not saying Hive.
Don’t worry, the only one actually innovating is earning $0
lol
I think PeakD wins, but I agree that they need to be sustainable without the DHF eventually.
A time is coming that external entrepreneurs will rise from this chain and draw in transactions that will keep this ecosystem very lively. This can be me or you or better said, 'me and you'. It is entrepreneurs that drive markets and add value. Better days are coming.
Not likely.
let's just keep it positive friend, 'thoughts is a needed tool for transformation'. Have a wonderful week
I’d rather keep it real & honest. Being positive is one thing, denying reality of where we are here on Hive is another.
Can you go through this article below and give your feedback, thank you.
thoughts that transform by dani-EL
agree 1000%.
Choosing Ecency is the smartest choice, in my opinion. I have never used any other frontend
PeakD would def win this battle. Like 12-1 , but curious, even though the majority picks PeakD, what specifically makes you think Ecency is better choice?
Btw I'm not saying one's better, just going by the huge majority who uses PeakD in comparison. !LADY !PIZZA
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Thanks for the tokens and comment vote. I have never seen those stats. 12-1
I am a big promoter of using whichever frontend works best for you. We are all supposed to be here to help Hive grow, right?
Same here. @ecency has some performance issues since the big update a few weeks ago but the mobile access is necessary for the many mobile only users. Like myself. Haven‘t used any other than the iOS Ecency App in my iphone most of my „Hive time“.
Greetings Thomas
The mobile app update/migration was huge and a few issues were expected, but they are being addressed and you will see a fix coming soon! ❤️
Of course. They pay you right?
I am not paid anything by Ecency, except for my share of delegation rewards.
All your posts have an upvote by ecency, which I guess is an exchange for all your volunteer work for them (e.g. ecency discord mod).
I am totally ok with it, but that's essentially vote buying and not proof of brain.
So yeah, you are totally biased on the matter and your opinion is null as you are an ecency shill.
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Definitely loyal to Ecency. Votes are given by curators after posts are reviewed, not automatically voted.
Sure sure, we know there's no bias and circle jerking among curators and friends 😂😂😂😂
PeakD gets my vote too. I've never even used Ecency..
The only proposal I am voting is the return proposal. The whole spend needs reviewed. Not that my stake does fuck all. Things should be scaled back and even mothballed, it is common proactive in business.
Sorry to say nothing will change until the well has been bled dry.
This ⬆️ 100%!
all points correct! It’s getting so bad
And honestly if most of us only vote return, the whales will just keep the nonsense going. But we gotta try! I just am glad I powered down 75% my stake at .48 cents 13 months back. Hive is dying and the crowds and esp whales are just pretending things are great. Just crazy.
If we're already at this point, meaning we've reached the end of the line, then Hive should just stay as infrastructure, and all the other apps—front ends, games, etc.—should fund themselves. I don't think it's right to fund just one front end. If anything, then there's the Hive blog.
I agree
In my view we need @ecency since it offers a mobile access via an App to the Hive ecosystem. @peakd doesn‘t. That is very important since more and more people use mobile to acess the web and applications. I am using mobile only and do all of my content and posts vi my iphone and the Ecency App.
Peakd is easily the winner. Maybve it doesn't have it's own mobile app, but I'm using the Keychain app to access Peakd from Keychain browser and I've never had any kind of problem posting or reading 🤷♂
Though for as much as I love Peakd, I agree that all those funds are not needed. We should all go into maintenance mode. I don't know how much money a developer needs to maintain its platform on a daily basis, but I don't think it's anymore near 600 dollars per day... especially if Hive is not your main job (but I don't know, I'm just supposing things, take it like a grain of salt)
We have the most overpaid devs 😂
We need a mechanism to suspend or slash DHF funding when the market is in the gutter, the same way Hive already has mechanisms that respond to debt levels. Why doesn't this exist yet? Because right now the DHF is getting absolutely rorted and nobody seems to care.
No offence to the Peak open team, but can we stop pretending front-ends are expensive to run? They look nice, sure. But these projects are built on top of an existing chain. They're not running consensus nodes. They're not keeping the lights on for Hive. You can serve a front-end like Peakd or Ecency off an edge cache for pocket change. The actual cost of running these things is basically nothing. So I'll ask again: where is all the money going?
Ecency is siphoning 396 HBD per day. That's roughly USD $133,000 a year. For what? Seriously, for what? Who even uses Ecency? I never see anyone talk about it. I don't use it. I don't know a single person who fires up Ecency and goes yeah this is totally worth $133k a year. I'm sure some people use it, but not enough to justify that.
And before anyone says "well Peakd is different," yeah, Peakd is actually good. I use it. The community uses it. It's the best front-end on Hive and it's not even close. But the Peak open team is pulling 635 HBD per day. That's around USD $231,000 a year. To do what? Shuffle some CSS around? Ship side projects nobody asked for? That's one or two senior developer salaries depending on where you're hiring. And we're spending that on a front-end that's already built and whatever else they're building? You could put that money into node infrastructure or marketing. You could fund onboarding that actually brings new blood to the chain. Instead it's going to a team making incremental updates to something that already works.
Ecency needs to be defunded yesterday. It provides nothing worth even a fraction of what it's taking. 396 HBD a year would be generous. And Peakd, as good as it is, needs to open the books. Show us the cost breakdowns. Show us where every dollar goes. "We're building things" is not an answer. That's what every overfunded startup says right before they fold. Honestly, these projects have taken enough. Maybe when Hive was 60 cents people were more forgiving, but now is not the time to be spending like the money is endless, because Hive is in legitimate danger right now and we should be protecting it.
I can tell you right now that if anyone were to rebuild what Ecency or Peakd offers right now today (especially with LLM assist), it wouldn't cost ANYWHERE near as much as the amount these projects are making yearly to build, host and maintain. They might as well rename is the Hive Fraud Fund (HFF) because people are just bleeding it dry. And it's in times like these you really see who is here for the money and who cares about the survival of Hive.
People should be furious about this. And these are just two examples. There are plenty more proposals draining the DHF the same way (don't get me started about that stupid Claude Code proposal). If we can't get automatic funding controls that respond to market conditions, then at minimum we need mandatory transparency reports and proper community audits before any proposal gets to auto-renew. Because right now we're just sitting here watching the treasury bleed out while everyone pretends it's fine.
It's not fine.