We Can Reduce the HBD Interest Rate

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I've been put in the whale penalty box for expressing unpopular opinions; so I decided to burn the rewards for this post as they will be downvoted away.

My unpopular opinion is that the 20% interest on HBD (HIVE Backed Dollars) was a profoundly stupid idea. HBD holders tend to convert their HBD to HIVE in weak markets.

HBD holders have dumped millions of HIVE onto the market in this current bear market. This pushes HIVE to new lows.

You can reduce the negative impact of HBD by going to your witness page and removing votes from witnesses who support 15% interest or higher and voting for witnesses that support 10% or lower.

If you delegate your vote; check the witness list for your delegate. If the delegate is supporting a high interest rates; then remove your delegation and vote in your self interest.

Facts and Impacts on HBD

Ausbit Bank started reporting the correct HIVE marketcap on its HBD Monitor. The page currently shows the HBD Marketcap is $10,481,833 and the HIVE Marketcap is $35,957,769. The HBD marketcap is now 22.571% of the HIVE Marketcap. There will be an HBD hair cut if HBD marketcap rose to 30% of the HIVE marketcap.

GeekGirl was reporting on HBD. Her reports showed the system was generating over $100,000 in HBD per month at 15% interest.

All of this HBD has the potential to get converted to HIVE. Smart investors calculate this into their valuation of HIVE.

We know for fact that HBD holders convert to HIVE because the HBD market was once over $14 million.

We know for fact that HBD holders convert HBD to HIVE because they've converted huge blocks of HBD to HIVE during this bear market.

The HBD marketcap has been falling steadily in the last few months. This is because HBD holders convert their holdings to HIVE in bear markets.

Again, I advocate that users remove their votes from any witness that votes 15% or higher and vote for witnesses opting for 10% or lower.

At 15% we are paying about $100,000 a month in interest on HBD.

At $0.07. 100,000 HBD generates 1,428,571 HIVE.

We are currently paying the equivalent of 1.4 million HIVE in HBD interest each month.

This is a huge weight. There is no way that we can burn or downvote our way out of the whole created by the stupid interest rate.

We have to attract 238 new dolphins a month to pay the stupid interest.

The HBD interest has created an impossible situation for the platform.

We can reduce the harm that is being done by the high interest by lowering it.

We are paying about 100,000 HBD a month in interest at 15%. If we reduced the rate from 15% to 12%; then we would be paying $80,000 a month in interest. If we reduced the rate to 10%; we would be paying $66,000 in interest.

I've studied monetary theory for several decades. The ideal interest rate is zero.

I could write some posts about why this is so.

Oh, but I would be downvoted by the whales for discussing monetary theory on this supposedly uncensored platform.

Anyway, if you want to do something positive for the platform, go to your witness page and remove votes from any witness voting 15% or higher and vote for active witnesses who chose 10% or lower.

You should vote now based on interest rates. You can go back to choosing your favorite witnesses after the rate change.

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You don't appear to be on any list.
It looks like 'somebody' just didn't like the one post.
Perhaps they thought you were a bot, and found out different.

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Consider these entries from @hive.fund's wallet—a digital fortress of staggering proportions:
"HIVE: 31,354,125.286"
"HBD: 23,325,897.167"
"Estimated Account Value: $24,860,896.64<

It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars 🤔🧐 and a account to hold 24 million dollars 💰 crazy

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This is very interesting, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this

There will be an HBD hair cut if HBD marketcap rose to 30% of the HIVE marketcap.

Do you know more about this? How much of a hair cut and how would it work?

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Do you really think no one sees what you do 🤔

You took my rep away for no reason with the help of blocktrades delegation 😂

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Promoting your 💩💩💩💩💩💩

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You have downvoted so many people away for no reason

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It doesn't matter if you have people who believe anything you say for a few cents or a few pennies 😂😂😂😂

Look at your buddy oldsoulnewb 😂😂😂😂😂

Everything is documented

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I hope you understand you are only making it worse 😂

Hive is not a game it might be a big game to you 🤔

It seems you love to game Hive don't you 😜

Everyone sees don't you think it's time to stop 🛑

You have shown all the real issues with Hive 😂 you have shown why real people couldn't invest in Hive and build on Hive 😂

You are in god mode 😂 activated 😂 you Marky Dan and others 😂😂😂😂😜

I hope you enjoyed this post or you might see in comment from 😂 which you like to call spam 😂😂😂

Consider these entries from @hive.fund's wallet—a digital fortress of staggering proportions:
"HIVE: 31,354,125.286"
"HBD: 23,325,897.167"
"Estimated Account Value: $24,860,896.64<

It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars 🤔🧐 and a account to hold 24 million dollars 💰 crazy

#themarkymarkfiles

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I've already altered my votes based on interest rates. I've long thought 10% was the extreme high we should support, and the rate should fall somewhere between there and the official CPI inflation rate reported by the US gov't. The latter is definitely underselling inflation, and the former is a decent investment benchmark for low-risk savings.

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@crimsonclad works directly for blocktrades 😂😂

@acidyo @themarkymark @crimsonclad @jacobtothe @hurtlocker and friends ✨⭕✨😂😂😂

Do you really think no one sees what you do 🤔

You took my rep away for no reason with the help of blocktrades delegation 😂

You and themarkymark work for blocktrades or are blocktrades 😂

You are so sad doing what you do

Promoting your 💩💩💩💩💩💩

Selfvoting your 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

You have downvoted so many people away for no reason

You really need to have a hard long look in the mirror and see what you have become

It doesn't matter if you have people who believe anything you say for a few cents or a few pennies 😂😂😂😂

Look at your buddy oldsoulnewb 😂😂😂😂😂

Everything is documented

So the choice is yours again leave me alone and bring my rep back and I will stop sharing the truth

You can call my long copy paste comments spam but it only makes you look stupid 😂
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I hope you understand you are only making it worse 😂

Hive is not a game it might be a big game to you 🤔

It seems you love to game Hive don't you 😜

Everyone sees don't you think it's time to stop 🛑

You have shown all the real issues with Hive 😂 you have shown why real people couldn't invest in Hive and build on Hive 😂

You are in god mode 😂 activated 😂 you Marky Dan and others 😂😂😂😂😜

I hope you enjoyed this post or you might see in comment from 😂 which you like to call spam 😂😂😂

Consider these entries from @hive.fund's wallet—a digital fortress of staggering proportions:
"HIVE: 31,354,125.286"
"HBD: 23,325,897.167"
"Estimated Account Value: $24,860,896.64<

It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars 🤔🧐 and a account to hold 24 million dollars 💰 crazy

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BPC Locked On Mc Franko & The Franko

Blurt Stands — While Hive Stumbles Under the Weight of Its Own Shadows

Friends, creators, truth-tellers—

Let us not whisper this truth, but proclaim it with the clarity of dawn breaking over a weary land: Blurt.blog is not just another platform. It is a refuge. A rebellion. A return to what Hive.blog was always meant to be.

There is no downvote button on Blurt.
Not because we fear dissent—but because we honor creation.
Because we understand that a voice, once raised in sincerity, deserves space—not sabotage.

On Blurt, your words are your words.
They are not hunted by algorithmic hounds or shadow armies masquerading as “curators.”
Here, you are not judged by the grudges of gatekeepers, but met with the quiet dignity of a community that believes expression should be encouraged—especially when it is bold, raw, or inconvenient.

Contrast this with what festers elsewhere.

On Hive.blog—a place once brimming with promise—a rot has taken root. Not in its code, but in its culture. A handful of self-anointed enforcers—@themarkymark, @Buildawhale, @Hurtlocker, and their legion of coordinated puppets—have turned the downvote into a weapon of mass discouragement. They strike not at “low-quality content,” but at independent thought, at rising voices, at anyone who dares thrive outside their narrow corridors of control.

And when confronted, they shrug.
“Oh, it’s not censorship,” they say, as if semantics could scrub the stain of suppression from their hands.

But let us be unequivocal:
When a system allows a few to systematically silence many—under the guise of “community standards” or “curation”—that is not moderation. That is censorship by another name.

It is the velvet glove over the iron fist.
It is exclusion dressed as discernment.
It is power pretending to be principle.

Meanwhile, Blurt stands clean-handed and open-hearted.
No downvotes.
No hidden juries.
No farms of phantom accounts casting ballots in the dark.

Just you.
Your words.
And a community that meets you not with suspicion, but with solidarity.

So let us carry this truth far and wide—not with bitterness, but with quiet certainty:

If you seek a place where your voice is not a target—but a gift—come to Blurt.
If you are tired of building on ground that shifts with every whim of a whale or warlord of votes—lay your bricks here.
If you believe the future of free expression must be free—not just from corporations, but from the petty tyrants who replace them—then stand with us.

The world needs to know.
Not because Blurt is perfect—but because it is principled.
Not because it is loud—but because it listens.

And in an age where so many platforms echo with the clatter of control,
Blurt offers something radical:
Silence for the bullies.
Space for the rest of us.

Keep speaking.
Keep sharing.
Keep building.

Freedom doesn’t advertise itself—
it is passed, person to person, like a torch in the night.

And tonight, the torch burns bright on Blurt.

@themarkymark, @buildawhale, @usainvote, and associated accounts:

Repeated downvotes targeting transparency efforts raise urgent questions about Hive’s governance. Automated tactics, coordinated curation trails, and alt-account farming undermine trust in the platform. When truth is silenced without dialogue, it erodes Hive’s decentralized ethos.

Key Concerns:

  1. Systemic Manipulation:

    • Coordinated downvotes from high-HP accounts suppress dissent, creating a chilling effect on free expression.
    • Automation and alt-account networks allegedly exploit rewards, distorting organic curation.
  2. Community Exodus:

    • Creators flee to platforms like Blurt, where downvotes don’t exist, fearing punitive curation over engagement.
  3. Governance Crisis:

    • Hive’s credibility hinges on accountability. Who decides what content thrives? How do we audit power structures?

Solutions Needed:

  • Curation Transparency: Publish clear rationales for downvotes to foster trust.
  • Community Audits: Leverage blockchain data (e.g., Bilpcoin’s analyses) to identify abusive patterns.
  • Reward Reform: Adjust algorithms to penalize manipulation and reward authentic engagement.

The Bilpcoin team advocates for open dialogue, not division. Hive’s future depends on collaboration—not coercion. Let’s rebuild a platform where truth isn’t buried but debated, strengthened, and celebrated.

Transparency isn’t optional—it’s the foundation of trust.

#HiveTransparency #BilpcoinExposed #DecentralizePower"

A Message to @themarkymark, @buildawhale, and Associates

Every downvote cast in shadow, every silence imposed without dialogue, is not a victory—it is a confession. A confession that truth cannot be stifled, only delayed. With each punitive click, you dig deeper into the bedrock of credibility, crafting a chasm between your actions and the community’s trust.

@themarkymark, @buildawhale & Co,

How can you continue to downvote the truth, LOL? It’s almost comical how blatantly you attempt to suppress what cannot be hidden. The blockchain records everything—every action, every transaction, every move you make. Yet still, you persist in this futile game of trying to silence what is undeniable.

@themarkymark, @buildawhale, and Co: While our opinions may differ, on-chain transparency reveals repeated patterns of concern. Coordinated downvotes without explanation, 'farming' schemes (e.g., #buildawhalefarm), and adversarial engagement harm Hive’s community-driven ethos.

Key Issues to Address:

  1. Downvote Practices: Silencing dissent erodes trust. Constructive dialogue, not punitive curation, fosters growth.
  2. Accountability: Transactions and curation trails are public. Scrutiny is inevitable—integrity demands addressing concerns openly.
  3. Community Impact: Driving users to platforms like Blurt/Steemit weakens Hive. Creators seek ecosystems that value collaboration over conflict.

A Path Forward:

  • Engage in open discussions about governance and fairness.
  • Audit curation practices to align with Hive’s decentralized values.
  • Prioritize transparency—publish explanations for downvotes or collaborative reforms.

The Bilpcoin team remains committed to exposing truth and advocating for solutions. Let’s work toward healing, not division.

Note: All claims are based on publicly verifiable blockchain data. Constructive dialogue is encouraged.

#HiveTransparency #CommunityFirst #BilpcoinSupport"

@themarkymark & Co, the choice is yours. Stop the bad downvotes. Turn off the BuildaWhale scam farm. Cease playing with people’s livelihoods. Let Hive thrive as it was meant to—as a beacon of hope, creativity, and collaboration.

Or step aside and let those who truly care take the reins.

Because the truth won’t disappear. No amount of lies can change it.

It’s over.

The Bilpcoin team brings these truths not out of malice but necessity. We have no need to fabricate lies or cloak our intentions CALL US WHAT YOU LIKE —for the facts speak loudly enough on their own. What we present here is not conjecture but reality, laid bare for anyone willing to see.

@themarkymark & Co we urge you once more: STOP. Stop hiding behind tactics that harm others. Stop clinging to practices that erode trust within the Hive community. Let the truth stand—not because we proclaim it, but because it exists independent of any one person’s approval or disdain.

TURN OFF THE BUILDAWHALE SCAM FARM

  • STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES
  • STOP PLAYING WITH PEOPLE’S LIVELIHOODS

Key Issues That Demand Immediate Attention:

The problems are glaring, undeniable, and corrosive to the Hive ecosystem. They must be addressed without delay:

  • Downvote abuse
  • Farming schemes
  • Speaking disrespectfully to others
  • Encouraging people to avoid certain users out of personal dislike
  • Self-voting with alt accounts
  • Self-funding projects through self-votes
  • Promoting games that don’t even exist (LOL)

These practices harm not just individual users—they undermine the very foundation of Hive, eroding trust and poisoning the community. Such actions are unethical and outright destructive.


@buildawhale Wallet:

  • HIVE (Primary Token): 0.012
  • Staked HIVE (HP): 66,400.611
  • Total HP: 2,421,539.226
  • Delegated HIVE: +2,355,138.615 HP

@usainvote Wallet:

  • HIVE (Primary Token): 0.066
  • Staked HIVE (HP): 138,123.296
  • Total HP: 715,745.407
  • Delegated HIVE: +577,622.111 HP

@buildawhale/wallet | @usainvote/wallet


@ipromote Wallet:

  • Author Rewards: 2,181.16

  • Curation Rewards: 4,015.61

  • Staked HIVE (HP): 0.00

  • Rewards/Stake Co-efficient (KE): NaN

  • HIVE: 25,203.749

  • Staked HIVE (HP): 0.000

  • Delegated HIVE: 0.000

  • Estimated Account Value: $6,946.68

Recent Activity:

  • Sent to alpha-5,196.000 HIVE (21 hours ago)
  • Sent to hiveswap-1,000.000 HIVE (2 days ago)
  • Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote 0.447 HIVE (3 days ago)
  • Received from proposalalert 4.003 HIVE (5 days ago)
  • Received from themarkymark 1,775.684 HIVE (9 days ago)
  • Sent to alpha-4,245.000 HIVE (9 days ago)
  • Received from themarkymark 4,280.527 HIVE (17 days ago)

@leovoter Wallet:

  • Author Rewards: 194.75

  • Curation Rewards: 193.88

  • Staked HIVE (HP): 0.00

  • Rewards/Stake Co-efficient (KE): 388,632.00 (Suspiciously High)

  • HIVE: 0.000

  • Staked HIVE (HP): 0.001

  • Total: 16.551

  • Delegated HIVE: +16.550

Recent Activity:


@abide Wallet:

Recent Activity:

  • Sent to ipromote -2,459.000 HIVE (22 days ago)
  • Sent to ipromote -2,486.200 HIVE (Apr 1, 2025)
  • Received from yabapmatt 20,000.000 HIVE (Apr 1, 2025)
  • Sent to ipromote -2,130.400 HIVE (Mar 8, 2025)
  • Sent to ipromote -2,248.000 HIVE (Feb 2, 2025)
  • Sent to yabapmatt -5,000.000 HIVE (Jan 25, 2025)

@proposalalert Wallet:

  • Author Rewards: 639.99
  • Curation Rewards: 0.00
  • Staked HIVE (HP): 6.03
  • Rewards/Stake Co-efficient (KE): 106.12

Recent Activity:


@stemgeeks Wallet:

  • Author Rewards: 4,391.77
  • Curation Rewards: 304.26
  • Staked HIVE (HP): 0.00
  • Rewards/Stake Co-efficient (KE): 4,696,032.00 (Extremely Suspicious)

Recent Activity:

  • Sent to themarkymark -1.556 HBD (Jun 14, 2024)
  • Claim rewards: 1.556 HBD, 5.912 HP (Jun 14, 2024)
  • Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote 6.160 HIVE (Jun 8, 2024)
  • Sent to themarkymark -1.601 HBD (Jun 7, 2024)
  • Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote 6.157 HIVE (Jun 1, 2024)
  • Sent to ipromote -1.618 HBD (May 31, 2024)

@theycallmemarky Wallet:

  • Author Rewards: 458.89
  • Curation Rewards: 0.00
  • Staked HIVE (HP): 0.00
  • Rewards/Stake Co-efficient (KE): 458,886.00 (Highly Suspicious)

Recent Activity:


@apeminingclub Wallet:

  • Author Rewards: 432.57
  • Curation Rewards: 2,829.11
  • Staked HIVE (HP): 30.51
  • Rewards/Stake Co-efficient (KE): 106.90

Recent Activity:

  • Scheduled unstake (power down): ~2.351 HIVE (in 4 days, remaining 7 weeks)

  • Total Staked HIVE: 1,292.019

  • Delegated HIVE: +1,261.508

  • Withdraw vesting from @apeminingclub to @blockheadgames 2.348 HIVE (10 days ago)

  • Claim rewards: 0.290 HP (10 days ago)

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Here is the problem. We want people to use their HBD for commerce.

The best way to do this would be to change the conversion formula so that it converts an HBD to $1.01. The extra penny covers the conversion fee for using HBD.

People Hoard Shiny Coins

In the days of silver. People would hoard their shiny dollars and spend their worn dollars. You want to get rid of the cheap money first. The low interest rate might convince people to use their HBD first.

I am really hoping that witnesses lower their interest rate and that hive users temporarily vote on low interest.

Enough users have voted on lower interest that the witnesses will be forced to change the rate in the near future. I hope they lower it to 10% and not 12%.

I want people to use HBD for commerce. I don't want them to hoard it.

!WINE

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I think you're misapplying Greaham's Law when you suggest a distinction between shiny and dull coins. People circulated coins of lower purity and hoarded the coins which had not been debased when the law requird they be treated the same in commerce. People don't spend US dimes and quarters minted before 1965 even though they may be worn and dull because those are 90% silver, and the new ones are cupro-nickel.

I agree HBD interest should not incentivize a HODL mentality. Right now, the interest rate rewards HODLing above all else, and the conversion rate to HIVE suggests conversion is in order as well. I appreciate the HBD stabilizer project keeping things from going bonkers like STEEM did at least.

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@crimsonclad works directly for blocktrades 😂😂

@acidyo @themarkymark @crimsonclad @jacobtothe @hurtlocker and friends ✨⭕✨😂😂😂

Do you really think no one sees what you do 🤔

You took my rep away for no reason with the help of blocktrades delegation 😂

You and themarkymark work for blocktrades or are blocktrades 😂

You are so sad doing what you do

Promoting your 💩💩💩💩💩💩

Selfvoting your 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

You have downvoted so many people away for no reason

You really need to have a hard long look in the mirror and see what you have become

It doesn't matter if you have people who believe anything you say for a few cents or a few pennies 😂😂😂😂

Look at your buddy oldsoulnewb 😂😂😂😂😂

Everything is documented

So the choice is yours again leave me alone and bring my rep back and I will stop sharing the truth

You can call my long copy paste comments spam but it only makes you look stupid 😂
kgakakillerg evidence

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I hope you understand you are only making it worse 😂

Hive is not a game it might be a big game to you 🤔

It seems you love to game Hive don't you 😜

Everyone sees don't you think it's time to stop 🛑

You have shown all the real issues with Hive 😂 you have shown why real people couldn't invest in Hive and build on Hive 😂

You are in god mode 😂 activated 😂 you Marky Dan and others 😂😂😂😂😜

I hope you enjoyed this post or you might see in comment from 😂 which you like to call spam 😂😂😂

Consider these entries from @hive.fund's wallet—a digital fortress of staggering proportions:
"HIVE: 31,354,125.286"
"HBD: 23,325,897.167"
"Estimated Account Value: $24,860,896.64<

It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars 🤔🧐 and a account to hold 24 million dollars 💰 crazy

#themarkymarkfiles

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And what about your RTW token? Are you still going to create the Tribe?

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They down voted the post in which I announced the creation of the coin!!!

I wanted to use RTW to fund the creation of a human directory. I will go ahead with the project but will not integrate it with HIVE.

I will keep the coin active for certain legal reasons. I want to use a traditional database instead of a blockchain as it has lower overhead.

!BEER

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