Downvotes, mockery, and silence: a catharsis about power and listening in Hive



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Something happened to me that I'm still chewing on. I tried to open a dialogue on several Discord servers linked to Hive, thinking it could be a space for debate, to better understand the platform's unwritten rules, to listen and be heard.
What I encountered was the complete opposite: ridicule, belittling, evasive responses. Even when I invited someone to read what I had to say, instead of stopping to listen, they chose to stray onto another topic. As if my word was worth so little that it didn't even deserve a minute of attention.
And the worst part: when I wanted to talk to the Hive Watchers on another server, I respectfully accepted their "no." So far, so good. But another user soon appeared, not to debate, but to berate me, to impose their will over mine, as if they had the right to do so. I ended up leaving that server after they called me a "whiner," when all I wanted was to debate respectfully.
That episode opened my eyes: it wasn't just a problem of downvotes, it was something bigger. It was a symptom of how power is wielded even in places that call themselves decentralized. A clear example of how lapdogs emerge, defending the indefensible, believing that obeying the powerful makes them part of something.

Downvoting is presented as a legitimate tool to correct abuses: low-quality content, plagiarism, spam. But in practice, it often becomes a weapon of censorship.
One downvote from a whale can erase twenty upvotes from smaller users. That's the cold math of the system. And when that happens, it doesn't matter if what you wrote has value, if it's been around for a while, or if it's loaded with experience: the balance is tilted from the start.
Decentralization is sold as Hive's great virtue, but how decentralized can a system be where a few concentrate so much voting power that they decide who deserves to be read and who doesn't? What hurt me most wasn't the vote itself, but the reaction of the surrounding community. There was no dialogue, no listening, no debate. There was mockery. There was the servile attitude of those who rush to defend the powerful without stopping to think.
It's the classic lapdog reflex: it doesn't question, it doesn't observe, it doesn't construct. It only repeats what its master wants to hear because, deep down, it fears losing the crumbs that fall from the table. And so the logic is perpetuated: the powerful do what they want, and others play along as if it were natural.
I experienced it firsthand when they called me a "crybaby" just for wanting to debate. That insult wasn't meant to describe what I was doing; it was meant to delegitimize my voice, to silence me. And that's when I understood that it wasn't just Hive: it was the same old logic, that of any power structure.
I've seen simple posts, without elaboration, research, or effort, filled with votes and comments of support. Why? Because they were written by someone with a reputation, someone well-connected, someone already within the circle of power.
Meanwhile, other texts with work, analysis, and hours of work behind them are relegated to silence or crushed by a solitary downvote. This exposes another reality: Hive isn't always a meritocracy of content. Often, it's a meritocracy of contacts.

And no, this isn't a problem exclusive to Hive. It happens everywhere: in universities, in offices, in politics. But it hurts because Hive presents itself as a different space, as an oasis of decentralization and digital justice. When the same old vices are repeated later, the disillusionment weighs more.
Hive isn't a separate planet. It's a mirror. And in that mirror we see what we already know: Hierarchies disguised as horizontality. Concentrated powers justified as "necessary." Mockery and silence for those who don't align with the dominant discourse. Content valued more for its byline than for what it says.
The same thing happens in politics, in education, in the media. What should be a space for encounter becomes a battlefield. What should be open to a diversity of voices becomes a repeated chorus of those who shout the loudest or those who weigh the most.
Hive, with all its promise of decentralization, ends up showing that no system is exempt from human misery.

My catharsis

I entered with a desire to contribute, to write, to debate. I wasn't looking for pats on the back or easy applause; I was looking for someone to stop and think with me.
What I found was the indifference of some and the hostility of others. And yes, it hurt. It hurt.
Because one doesn't write in a vacuum; one writes to be read, to be part of a larger conversation. When that conversation is replaced by ridicule, what remains is frustration.
My last post on this topic
This will be my last post about downvotes. Not because they no longer matter to me, but because I don't want to keep spinning on the same pointless wheel, since the responses from those who downvoted were silence and hostility.
From now on, I want to continue writing about what truly moves me: social criticism, education, mental health, culture, the series that move me.
But I needed to leave this testimony as a catharsis, as closure, as a written cry. Because every time a voice is silenced by ridicule or power, the entire society loses.
And if this text manages to make even one person stop to think, even for a second, about how we treat those who think differently, it will have fulfilled its purpose.



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Hive is not the ideal world that many of us wish it was.

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The automatic downvoting continues, I don't know why he likes to do this kind of things.

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Eternal downvotes make no sense to me, unless the intention is to cut the number of people using Hive. If that is the plan, they are succeeding.

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Can't wait to see who's going to talk about decentralization in the next HIVEFest

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There are many people who are not even interested in listening to me, I expect very little from evolution.

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vaya pues eso parece, ahora toca asimilar que esta blockchain no es descentralizada y la libertad de expresión está comprometida, no existe el debate ni los usuarios pintan nada, por eso digo que estoy impaciente por ver quien es el primero que suelta la trola de la descentralización en el próximo HIVEFest.

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Estos 3 usuarios son los que automáticamente me dan downvote a los 6 dias de la publicación/comentario. Así son las cosas, y si puedes ver como me trataron en otros discords (ya para ellos el hablar es llorar) veras que con razón me terminaría yendo

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To use the word mirror you use in the post, I would say that HIVE could be a good subject for an episode of the Black Mirror series.
!BBH

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Does anyone understand the Logic of Downvoting good people on Hive.blog ?

Downvoting everything to Zero on Day 7 … no matter what is posted ?

People who have been blogging on Steemit and Hive for over 8 years ?

Does this make any sense ?

I really do not understand why Blocktrades is doing this ? …. Via Delegation to Buildawhale (see below)

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And now, after seeing the post, he manually downvotes me... the community doesn't choose, but rather whoever has the most power. Then they debate what decentralization means to me. It doesn't matter what I post, whether I do it with heart or not, automatic downvote.

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Essentially downvotes everyone.

This is backed by Blocktrades delegation.

They want everyone to quit Hive and go back to Steemit.com or Blurt.blog.

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It seems the whales here have chased many Hive users away since the down vote arrived. I call it a plutocracy - ruled by the richest. I guess it's a symptom of POS proof of stake blockchain. The bigger your stake in HP, the more power you have. Hive will never grow much any more, now that we have this barrier to true decentralization.

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It's sad, because I really put effort into many things and when I wanted to talk, they treated me like a crybaby, like "I did something." I felt very mocked. I agree about the plutocracy. I thought this was More than just this.

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About hivewatchers server, I asked an honest question and received a rude response. I had never talked to you before that message, never made fun, mocked or anything. I just asked an honest question and was open for a debate. You were the rude person and you deserved what came after that. From what I saw in the other discord servers you were always aggressive, very demanding. You think that shouting loud will solve your problems.

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You think you're right, that's your problem. I went there to talk to HW, not you. About the other server, why are you defending them?
I didn't speak to you badly, but I want to talk and you come to ask me for explanations of something that doesn't add up, that has the name of taking the focus off what's important and moving it to the miniaturity
I understand your point, but you showed up and you think I'm the rude one, when I didn't even talk to you, and when the HW told me they weren't going to talk about the subject, I didn't say anything else, But you showed up, trying to impose what you believe on me and giving me an explanation that you don't deserve.
You were rude, and I wasn't the only user who said that to you.

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I don't think I'm right, I politely tried to start a debate about decentralization and you were extremely rude! You said you in your post you want to debate, but the truth is that you don't want to debate, you want things your way.
I never said anything about you, never mocked you. I just tried to start a conversation politely, just read it again. Anyone here can read it, it's public.

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And I add, sorry if my idiom seemed inappropriate to you, but I am one of those who believe that when an (injustice) happens and one asks for explanations, and someone like you comes along to demand more and more from someone is suffering from this (injustice) is another way of perpetuating power, it is necessary to dialogue, not to demand from someone who only asks for an explanation

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I tried to dialog and you were rude! You missed your chance to have a conversation and make your points.

By the way, the other person who said I was rude is a big time abuser on Hive with over 1000 accounts.

And I was rude, after you were rude to me. You deserved it.

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Languages separate us, and the fact that I only know how to write to you through a translator. It wasn't your writing that bothered me, but what you came here to do Since you came to me asking for more and more, when I wanted an explanation and all you did was judge me, you didn't listen to me, I consider it a mistake, something else...You think the abuser is the other person who said something to you, and not what happens to me and many others, but the abuser is the one who is against you... Think about it.
I didn't have the opportunity because they didn't give it to me, and you showed up wanting me to explain to you what I'm suffering online. You lack awareness.

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I don't think it's language or translation problem. You cut me off and didn't want to talk about it in a very rude way. Translators can translate polite messages. If you didn't want to talk, you could do it in a polite way.
I know it's frustrating to get downvoted. Many others got the same downvotes then you. Some were able to turn it around, but not with an attitude like yours. You should have tried to figure out how others did to stop receiving those downvotes instead of so much aggressiveness.
Good luck.

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You see, you're still wrong. I think I should find a way when I wanted to do it and received other conceited users like you who believe that whoever is attacked should ask permission. I hope you're more human in reality.

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