My Experience of Using HELIOS.VOTER: Russophobia or Unfortunate Mistake?
Now is the time to touch on one unpleasant subject.
I tried to avoid it carefully, as it didn't concern me personally before, but here I directly faced the Russophobic censorship on the Hive.
I'll introduce myself first! I am a Russian-speaking Ukrainian, I am on my own land at home. Here I try to draw public attention to the topics of war crimes of my country's government, terrorist activities against civilians, the consequences of funding the neo-Nazi regime on the economies of all of Europe, the persecution of the Orthodox Church by the government and the transfer of church property to schismatics.
Adequate discussions with opponents of any point of view are welcome here, as long as they take place within the bounds of decency and appeal to facts, not emotions.
Prehistory.
Under one of my posts comes Russophobe and put a negative vote without any explanation. He has every right to do so, but I also have the right to find out what exactly he did not agree with or what in my content could hurt him!
I want to improve and I need feedback from readers!
Since I didn't get any food for thought from my guest, I decided to test the Helios service on him by buying him the lowest possible negative vote. This is the first time I've tested this service to purchase a negative vote. All the more such content deserves it and without my purchase!
See for yourself the content of a user with a reputation of 71+, who unfavorably evaluated my
@oleksii.tkachuk/the-big-moon-the-big-moon-live
Apparently my offended fellow countryman knows who to complain to, or it's an incredible coincidence but:
On the same day, yesterday, the Helios administrator -@theguruasia manually withdrew the votes I had bought because they did not comply with the rules, which were published the very next day!
In between those two comments, my account has not made any posts or ordered a vote for any contet! What was going on there, who influenced this decision, we will hardly ever know for sure, but clearly not a supporter of Slavic conservatism.
Of course nobody is in a hurry to return the spent coins to me, but I will hold off with accusations of scam and fraud.
Perhaps just now the Helios team is looking for a compromise mutually acceptable solution to the conflict in exchange for my burned tokens and their refusal to fulfill their obligations.
Maybe it is still possible to make it look like an unfortunate misunderstanding. Let's see.
My blog is not, has not, and will not attempt to insult anyone. Unless you are offended by the truth!
With my truth, I don't go first to people's blogs with points of view different from mine. My goal is not to annoy my opponents with spam in comments under their publications and incite disputes and quarrels, but to maintain my own resource, where those who wish can familiarize themselves with quality analytics based on verified events, cited by reputable media! Discuss on topics of interest, ask questions.
The associations it evokes are:
This situation reminds me of Facebook with its censorship algorithms.
They don't directly say that someone's point of view contradicts "party politics", they just hide the content from the audience.
In this situation, HELIOS has acted as a censorship tool, with the help of which Russophobes prevent the spread of undesirable information to a wide audience.
At the same time, you openly state in your commentary that out of many other conflicts, only the Russian-Ukrainian conflict will be censored by you
US or Israeli special military operation is good, let's talk about it, Russia's special military operation is taboo??
Why we as civilized people should not discuss the political realities of everyday life, facts, and can not draw the attention of the general public to serious problems of our time with your service???
How do you think participation in non-proliferation of information contributes to the security and stability of the countries you comment on???
Regarding my article, from which you took a screenshot for your article.
Did you read the text? Did you understand the meaning?
There I wanted to say that Italy is following the path of Ukraine, a state where a lot of images like the ones you condemned in your screenshot have appeared.
Such images irritate many people, because it is always unpleasant to be deceived into being on the side of the states supporting Nazis and committing terrorist activities. (To recognize one's own mistakes requires a level of self-awareness, which is not inherent in everyone. But it also requires a sufficient level of awareness to make the right decisions and grow in self-awareness.
What annoys you more, the sfastica itself, or the fact that it is abundant in Ukraine?
On the promotion of your discord channel by attracting users under the pretext of a way to exclude them from the blacklist there is the following to say:
I don't use Discord, and I'm not going to install any applications to dialog with you about violating your retroactively published rules. I am ready to discuss your claims publicly right here.
To which I urge all those interested in this matter!
generated by bing on the query "sun-faced hive censor obstructing free speech"
In an ideal world, a customer has the opportunity to familiarize themselves with the rules of use of a product before purchasing it. Decent counterparties when changing the rules of the transaction give time to get out of it without loss to those who disagree with the new rules, but this is in an ideal world and with decent partners...
We have an expression "Everything will be Ukraine", it's a pity if it starts to happen with Hive even faster than with Steemit!
I'll repeat my comment below your post that went unanswered
It's great that you're constantly making up new rules as you play!
It would be fair if users could familiarize themselves with them before buying your tokens, not after. Although fairness and objectivity is now in question.
My blog expresses the opinion of many Russian-speaking Ukrainians. It discusses the trends raised in the world press, confirmed by me on the spot! You are not interested in the truth, if it is different from what you heard on TV, so soon you will hear it there too! You can't hide the truth no matter how hard you try.
I will be watching carefully how you adhere to your new rules(I suspect not the latest revision) especially with regard to supporting discussion of other conflicts, e.g. Israel and Palestine, the US with the whole world and many others)))
It's a pity that instead of running your business, you caved in to the pressure of Russophobes who have been making every effort since the beginning of the conflict to push Russian supporters off the platform....
Here's the proof: https://ecency.com/hive-122315/@vp-freelance/one-of-the-few-facts-of-the-presence-of-nazism-in-ukraine
The promotion of this content was not paid for - this is real audience feedback. It's a shame that people like you drove away this audience under pressure from the Russophobic whales.
With your "good intentions" you are turning the Hive into a Steemit or even more tsuensurized place!
Postscript:
Don't you think that by canceling your votes under my content it would be decent to also cancel transactions from my account for your votes? Or is this another sanction against Russians on Hive?
P.P.S.
The screenshot with photos from my article used as an example in your article is real! It is not a photoshopped sphasika!
https://images.ecency.com/p/3RTd4iuWD6NUeJEn5AVrJUoyatFqBqfcCJi1N7UixR4g2KPKN7w8NpZLSENrVdCfRzr9bFypdFZKktgyFZpaGsrHKuoSxMisLqVCDCaQVymVE1EQKz38A5FrdCS4LeuRdEZSKBVYuCrppbSchEhsZNhx6XEsvfjcq9T6QUqAdwvwLS.webp?format=webp&mode=fit
These are the people you're supporting here????
!WEED
Facts are inconvenient to those that sell their opinions for a few shekels. Perhaps they fear denazification won't stop with the Ukraine?
No matter. Liars, scammers, and vote-sellers will never have the comfort of truth, justice, and the American way to soothe them in the dark, midnight hours when their honest judgment of themselves and their character keeps them from a good night's sleep.
Thanks for the above pic. Such proofs are rare for those of us far from the Ukraine, who rarely hear the words of honest men like yourself. Lies, scams, and fraud are all we can get from Epstein's customers.
I'm reminded of that story about the Europeans burning the Koran for the third year in a row.
Of course, freedom of action implies such a possibility. But what they plan to gain in the end by their actions other than religious war is not clear to me.
It's the same here. People declare that they are in favor of peace and security of countries, and then they insult the current leader of one of the countries, participate in covering up the facts of crimes against human freedoms.
@vp-freelance!
@vp-freelance passed you the virtual joint!If you do not want to receive these comments, please reply with !STOP
It's amazing, seemingly serious people, and for a few coins, so disregarded their reputation. I have not encountered such a problem. But my content is not as explicit as yours either
What are you talking about? The reputation of their main account is -12, surely that says something.
Yeah, it's a story about 30 pieces of silver))))
I think we should end this dialog before I too am blacklisted for sympathizing with a propagandist))))))
Good luck in your fight!
I too used to think that keeping your head in the sand is best in situations that don't involve you personally.
In the end, thanks to a low level of passionarity, we lost our country!
Tomorrow they'll write new rules that say you can legally get ripped off yesterday, then we'll see who you want to discuss it with and how happy you'll be to "gift" your tokens.
Or KYC will require you to go on their discord channel because you're keeping your pork in improper conditions. lol
Take care of yourself and yours all!
I hope this kind of nonsense doesn't go to their heads. Reasonable people, worried about their profit streams!
HELIOS is shittoken, now you paid with your time, nerves and money to find out that. experience is not free. just keep this in mind, and dont interfere with it anymore.
I think there's a lot of promising fun going on here, and other than the reputation of Helios and his minions there are no casualties in this situation
Well, scams and frauds abhor censorship resistance, for obvious reasons. Discord is a surveillance vector - but not for the edification of the principals of a conversations, as is Hive. Only for those with the scratch to itch the wallets of the purveyors of that mechanism. At least we can make do with screenshots of conversations on Discord, and those have revealed insufferable behaviour of censors, scammers, and frauds all too often regarding downvotes.
Nonetheless, the fact of it testifies to Guruasia's commission of it. Sadly, it isn't uncommon for the ilk that promotes death and destruction of innocent civilians. When such horrific crimes are easy, little scams and fraud are nothing.
Thanks!
I was too tired yesterday to react right away.
I am grateful for your attention and words of encouragement.
I am very pleased that my broken English is ready to be read by adequate people with common sense like you!
Precisely because of my poor command of the language, I am not ready to go to the chat room, where I will have to fight off a pack of Russophobes who do not watch their words.
Screenshots of their inadequate aggression will not help me in any way, especially since the barking will be done by people who have nothing to do with the situation and bear no responsibility.
On Steemit, with all its disadvantages, such cunning scammers, who consider themselves smarter or richer than others, were dealt with quickly and without alternative. But here, they've started some kind of liberaSSism
It's shameful that there's no one in the entire Hive to put a pack of self-important frauds in their place.
Hi @vp-freelance,
As mentioned earlier, we do not support the war against Ukraine. In our perspective, every country should respect the sovereignty of another. It's disheartening to see that you may have forsaken your own country's interests due to Mr. Putin's actions.
I won't engage in discussions with mindsets that accept the killing of their own countrymen, women, elderly, and children for Mr. Putin's agenda. People are more open-minded than that. Every country or team may have betrayers, so your statements here don't surprise us. However, neither HELIOS nor UPME will support this war or any content related to the topic.
Unfortunately, we cannot resend your burned tokens; they are burned to @null, and that's final. If you decide to publish content unrelated to these conflicts, we will consider removing you from the blacklist.
In conclusion, I wish you all the best, and I wish for a peaceful sky over Ukraine. I extend respect to the brave men, women, and children of that country standing strong against the world's second-best army, fighting for the survival of their nation. Let's hope this conflict ends in 2024.
$WINE
Cheers~
This conflict could have ended a long time ago with negotiations, which Zelensky has banned by law! Now we have no chance of surviving against the second army of the world, especially with the rate of aid you are providing!
No matter how much you admire the selflessness of people caught walking their children to school and sent to die by force for the interests of our oligarchs, whose relatives were taken abroad at the very beginning, this does not cancel the documented war crimes of the Ukrainian military, including against the civilian population of Russia and Ukraine!
Only a court of law can brand a traitor, not a person who confessed to stealing 30 tokens.
I do not speculate about the politics of your country, where I have never been, on what basis are you condemning me for speculating about the politics of my country, where I have lived all my life? Have you lived in a country with a banned opposition where you can go to jail for 12 to 15 years for spreading FACTS?
Are you not making enough money from the Hive to pay back the tokens taken from me for your service's unfulfilled promises? Or is your reputation not worth 30 pieces of silver?
Do I understand correctly that we can agree to remove me from the blacklist if I don't buy your votes for articles concerning Russian-Ukrainian issues? Is it even possible to agree on anything with you, are you authorised to do so, or tomorrow you will be ordered to make up new rules for blacklisting me for new reasons known only to you?
@vp-freelance,
My previous comment contains all answers for your reply. I don't keep your tokens. You burned them the moment you request for a vote. Better you ask @null to resend them instead of me. I wish you all the best with your works on this chain.
Cheers~
Are you sure you're all right in the head, or is there some benefit to playing the mindless one? I was starting to worry about you! Let me know if you need help.
I transferred my tokens to the Helios account. Do you have anything to do with this account?
What does this have to do with @null account ???
I don't ask you for my interactions with @null, why are you trying to covering your dishonesty with a technical account? You had nothing to do with @null!
By that analogy, you should have blacklisted @null instead of me.))))
The screenshots confirm that a refund is possible, why are you trying to lie to me and evade responsibility?
I don't care what you did with my tokens after you got them from me. If you changed your mind to follow the public offer you stated and refuse to return the coins you received, that's outright theft. It's a shame that a project that thinks it's okay to cheat its users just by retroactively updating its rules is allowed to grow in Hive. It's not about blockchain and true freedom!
It is very symbolic that you sold your reputation for 30 silver pieces - a direct analogy to Judas betraying Jesus for the same price!
I believe you could have a good career in the European Parliament. People who are able to take someone else's money with a nonchalant face, who are able to blame their victim for the fact that it was their own fault that they were robbed, are valued there.
Try to think about it
Has my account been removed from the blacklist yet?
@vp-freelance,
Please check that your tokens have been transferred to @null, and as a result, they are already burned. We undo the vote when reviewing your content, so we cannot refund what you sent.
https://he.dtools.dev/@null?symbol=HELIOS
If you are having difficulty understanding the mechanism we use, it doesn't matter; just believe that I scammed you, I am not arguing.
Cheers~
The mechanism of burning tokens is very clear to me, as well as where you can get them!
Judging from your messages it turns out that you deceived me. On the instructions of the boss was deceived, or from your personal considerations - it does not matter. What matters is the fact of fraud on your part, which you admit.
The fact that the burned tokens can't be returned is as clear as two times two. It is also clear that if you valued your reputation and were a decent person, you would have found me another 30 tokens to replace the burned ones or their equivalent.
This isn't about 30 tokens! It's about your boorish attitude towards others from a position of power.
I would like the hive to be a place of justice, not who is strongest is right!
Are you deliberately avoiding answering the question about de-blocking?
Nowadays European Parliament seems to be an idol for people who cheat for profit or to support their illusive narrative while actually simply mismanaging funds.... obviously the guru learnt from the best, which are the worst psychopaths ever.
What's that anyways, vote-selling-biz? I thought we were beyond this.
I, too, thought this stage was a thing of the past, along with the steemit
Someone in the Hive is interested in such business, since only Helios is allowed to conduct such activities here, and not fair to others users!
Сan see who has delegated the most HP to Helios. In all likelihood, he's the one who's calling the tune at this casino.
And so who delegates 99% of their stake to that voter. Have a look....
I'll now get my head out of this discussion, as UNFORTUATELY it does not change a thing. I'll continue to use Hive when bored, or to read the few interesting things that haven't been censored yet.
Thanks for your content!
Thank you for being with us in this absurd situation. You've given me confidence, too!
🤝 Good luck!
Yep. I also thought this intolerable financial corruption was a thing of the past.
intolerable financial corruption is back and big on Hive ;)
It is my hope to see it again eliminated for once and for all. I had thought the previous economic destruction of the bidbots would have been sufficient, but I was clearly wrong, and naive. We will see what the users and groups that claim to be acting to eliminate spam, scams, and plagiarism do about it. If they do nothing, then it will be time to act more forcefully IYAM.
It is astounding to me that the sum at issue is literally 30 pieces. The comparison to the 30 pieces of silver paid to Judas to betray Jesus is unavoidable.
In addition, I am struck by the pettiness that makes all of this happen. I would have paid out of my own pocket to not have so much negative hype around my name ever.
Okay, I, an unemployed fugitive, have a huge amount of time to play this game. But the opponents are like serious people, with significant sums in their accounts, which an average citizen like me would never dream of investing in cryptocurrency, participating in this group humiliation for 30 coins.... I don't understand it, but it's very amusing.
It's not a new paradigm.
Flaggots have been driving people from the platform since it began.
😆😆
very capacious term👍
Should I at this stage attract more attention of developers interested in fair development of the ecosystem and node holders? Perhaps they have more leverage over such tricky businessmen?
There are guys who have been with us from the very beginning and whose reputation is beyond doubt! The same Arсange, he sees the situation deeper than most.
Has the situation reached a sufficient degree of absurdity to tag respected people by name, or should we wait for the development of events to allow the guys to prove themselves?
The true owner of the Helios account has not yet entered the dialog. Very interesting, is this happening with his ignorance or permission?
I feel it is very important to the Hive community to eliminate scammers and thieves from our community, so I have rehived your post on my blog to increase it's visibility. I have not tagged anyone directly in my comments, as that is perceived (at least by me) as somewhat urgent and intrusive. I cannot determine for you how you interact with the community, nor would I want to, as it is a diverse and free community I seek. This isn't a new practice, and was extremely disruptive during the bidbot crisis that almost destroyed the platform.
I am outraged, frankly, at the arrogance of Guruasia, who has openly admitted to defrauding you of your tokens. It is my expectation that all Hive users with integrity would share that outrage, and for that outrage to put pressure on Guruasia to cease such practices, and also to refund your payment. We'll see if the additional exposure I have given your post produces such pressure. You will have to decide yourself what steps to take as the injured party in this scam. I seek to permanently end such scams on Hive when I encounter them, and that is my intention here today. Until I saw your post I was unaware that bidbots still operated on Hive, and I am disgusted to see they do.
As you have seen, however, there are powerful and covert political forces operant on Hive, and these forces have often deceived people as to their purposes and reasons for acting. Because of this duplicity and dishonesty, I cannot predict what will come. There are users and groups that claim to be acting to eliminate spam, scams, and plagiarism, and that is the stated purpose for which downvotes were created. That has not always been their exclusive purpose, and I cannot act for them, nor state with confidence how they will act. Should they act with integrity I am here to back them up. If they do not, I am here in their stead, for what that is worth.
That isn't the only one selling delegations, bt, minnowsupport, dlease, and others all operating like it was normal.
They have been all along, because it's ok when it's one of 'us'.
After the departure of the more egregious bots I had been concerned about, my attention must have focused elsewhere, and my incapacity to stay abreast of substantive matters has caused me to be unaware other bots continue to operate.
I appreciate very much being informed of it.
Thank you
Yeah, it took me a while to look, too.
But, the fork only stopped those selling votes one at a time.
Anybody doing it wholesale was unaffected.
I would have been mad, if I had been running a bidbot.
But, the inner circle,and their sycophants, never blinked an eye.
Unfortunately the Hive is doomed to have such parasites.
Automated means of earning money, where you do not have to work, will always be a success due to the number of lazy people! It is very difficult to fight it, and do we have the right?
Perhaps this has attracted attention and the situation will be solved at a higher level, otherwise Hive will meet the fate of steemit by the number of bid-bots.
Only until we have enough hp to make them leave.
The downvote gives us the power to rid ourselves of those that defraud us.
If you don't like how the hive is managed, power up more hive.™
This is the rule of the game we are agreeing to play.
these are fair rules! At least the best I've ever seen.
It is a pity that activists for the cleanliness of the hive do not join their forces in a common pool, as parasites do.
!DHEDGE
you have 0.0 vote calls available today, your vote calls will reset at next snapshot. You can buy DHEDGE on Tribaldex or earn some daily by joining one of our many delegation pools at app.dhedge.cc to increase your daily amount.
You have taken payment to provide a service, and then refused to provide the service. Either you have scammed the customer, or you will refund their payment. You have chosen to refuse to provide the service after you took the money paid for that service. That is the definition of a scam.
This has nothing to do with @null. Either you're a thief, or you're not. Your above responses directly state you have taken the funds of the customer and are a running a scam on Hive. Your refusal to refund the payment makes you a thief.
@valued-customer,
I believe it's better if you refrain from accusing me without understanding how the system works.
Let me clarify the process:
@vp-freelance sent two vote requests, and the system checked his blacklist details, content size, etc., and proceeded with the votes. Once the votes were released, the tokens were sent to burn, and we have no access to those tokens again.
We monitor each post either before or after the vote is released. Upon reviewing the content, if it doesn't align with our point of view, especially regarding the sovereignty of a country and our disagreement with Mr. Putin's actions, we manually undo (0%) the vote. This is not just for upvoting but also for downvoting.
I'm not a fan of flagging; I had to trigger a flag instead of a 0% vote (undo the vote), but that's not my preference. The vote was already released (tokens burned), and we re-voted with 0% to remove the reward. We didn't scam or steal his tokens. We disagree with the content he provided, so we re-voted the same post with 0% to remove rewards instead of using a flag.
I hope this clarifies what actually happened here. If we were selling votes, platforms like ecency and others would be doing the same. However, unlike them, we monitor each vote released by our curators and undo our votes if they reach the wrong end.
Cheers~
I explained my points clearly and simply. None of that crap you just stated matters in the least.
You offered to provide a service, and took payment to do so. You then decided not to provide the service and kept the money. That is a scam. It is fraud. You may take umbrage at my accurate description of it, but you yourself have stated that fact.
Those are your words, not taken out of context, and disrobed of the blather about process and @null. You took his money per an agreement and did not perform the service you agreed to, and have the audacity to keep his money - to steal his money by an act of fraud.
Your character alone, not your process, your love of Zelensky, the blowing of political winds, or any other matter whatsoever, is the sole reason that is the fact. Given that circumstance I could give a damn about your beliefs. Keep them to yourself. I'll watch your actions to ascertain the facts about your beliefs, because those will reveal the truth, every time.I can clearly not trust your words.
Edit: let me shorten the quote from you to it's essence.
live with that, and your 30 tokens.
@valued-customer,
Yes, those are my words. It's better if you quote the whole sentence.
This is why you have a head on top of the neck. I hope you will use it next time before accusing someone again.
Yes, I support Ukraine and the sovereignty of that country. Nice try, man. I wish you good luck next time.
😜
Your facility with propaganda and deception is not the issue. This is the issue:
That's the caliber of your character, stripped of your facility to deceive, to scam, to defraud with clever words. For 30 Hive you lied.
That's what I will remember about you as long as you do not refund his payment, because that's what you sold your integrity for, just like Judas. I do not wish you good luck. I do not wish you well. I want you gone, off the platform, like any other scammer that steals money by lying to people. That's what you have chosen to be. Nothing more than a fraud, and a scammer. That's all that matters about you to me. That's all that should matter to Hive, to the entire community, about you, because that's what you chose to be.
That's why I said you have a head on top of your neck. Better use it, bro. Please show me where I stole his 30 Hives, lol 😅.
This is a blockchain, man. No one can cheat it. Please show me where I scammed his 30 Hive. Show me the transaction proof of that.
When you accuse someone without knowing the real facts, it's better not to do so. This might be a good example for you. Good luck, man. Nice try.
A little $WINE for you 🤣
It's a shame that on a decentralized platform there are individuals who, at their own discretion, determine which content is worthy of promotion to a larger audience and which is not.
I wouldn't have had any complaints about this transaction if your rules had been published before the purchase of your votes. Publishing rules retroactively is not about decentralization and blockchain! I hope you realized that from my example.
Why did you spend two days here like a snake in a frying pan if a refund is possible? Have respect for other people regardless of their point of view and do not humiliate yourself. It may turn out that someone else's point of view was much closer to the truth than yours.
Have the courage to admit your mistakes!
Don't label people without a court order. Especially if you represent some structure or organization like Helios. Learn to keep your mouth shut.
You want to help defeat Putin? We welcome mercenaries and even pay them well. Russia is open to entry and exit - act, the SBU will instruct you! Or better yet, forget about it and devote yourself to creation
Don't hold a grudge against me. My information campaign is aimed solely at ending the bloodshed by informing the world about the absurdity of the situation.
Thank you to everyone who has supported me in this situation. When people like you are around, it is worth a lot.
@valued-customer, @captainklaus, @antisocialist, @stayoutoftherz, @qwerrie @baah... As well as everyone who has supported with votes and been on the side of truth with me!
Congratulations to all of us. This is our common small victory of the system!
Cheers~
@oleksii.tkachuk
This is how every Bandera supporter's blog should be displayed. Pleasing to the eye
Your deceptive words are also a weapon that kills with the hands of others.
@vp-freelance,
I didn't send a refund; it was processed by one of the Helios team members, and I am against that refund. Your vote request was already delivered, and tokens were sent to burn. So why would I refund you when I am re-voting your post with a 0% vote value?
This is not a small victory for you; it's a victory of project Helios. The community can see that we (Helios) are different from other curation scripts. We pre or post-monitor where our votes go. So, this is good proof of that.
It's hard to believe Ukraine can win this war against Russia, but this war has proven that Ukraine's ordinary people can face the world's second-best military to secure their freedom. We stand with those people until the end of this war.
Slava Ukraini
Facebook justifies its censorship in the same way - by caring about someone.
If your project doesn't support discussions about politics, then keep your thoughts about it to yourself, and don't embarrass the people who feed you!
Glory to Palestine!
Ah, now finally your bias is out in the open ;)
Well, he did declare it right off the bat.
He explained the reason for canceling the vote and unwillingness to return the tokens by his personal dislike for Putin and the aggressor country.
And as far as I remember, I never sang praises to this leader. I criticize my own.
Since the foolish instigation of terrorist crimes against it's civilian population in the Donbas, of which many have family and friends in Russia, has brought the Russian MoD to the defense of those hapless civilians, ~1M Ukrainians have died.
Perhaps you should join them in their graves your foolish words have helped to fill.
I totally agree, but for one point: I think no opinion should be hidden.
I agree, it's done!
Sorry, but to "disagree with the content" one provides on Hive, is not a valid reason for a downvote. A downvote is to fight against scam, plagiarism, personal insults or illegal content like child porn, but not just the use of free speech! In fact this is what Hive makes unique, that everybody can express his opinions, without being censored! If you attack this by a downvote, you directly attack free speech!
And like @vp-freelance said, you should have warned people that you would apply an additional political censorship filter that prevents rewards from posts of opposing opinions. In fact you better add this now on your explanation posts, so that people are warned in future and rethink if they want to send money to such a voting system!
Hello @stayoutoftherz,
Who downvoted whom? I canceled the vote value by re-voting with 0%. I am not flagging anyone. I never believe flagging is the solution. Without having a proper idea of the mechanism I used, it's better not to accuse people.
My point is, Ukraine is in a war, and Mr. Putin is challenging the sovereignty of that country. We accept free speech, but in this sensitive matter, we have different viewpoints. We want to see the end of this Russian occupation against a country. This might be a very bad move, and most small countries near powerful ones will be in danger since this.
Anyway, that's off-topic for me. And I didn't hold funds or steal funds. What I did was re-voted two posts with a 0% vote value to remove the previously assigned rewards. This also reduced our curation of the post.
Have a nice day!
$WINE
OK not downvoting, but revoting to 0% after a customer has paid for a service, this is not fair.
Free speech means that even opinions which one doesn´t like have a right to be expressed without penalty!
Agree & Disagree.
30x.05821=1.7463usd
This is too much to ask of the project management to right the wrong of enforcing rules established after the fact?
With customer service like this you can understand why this coin is likely to fail, at some point.
Good luck with that.
You obviously have a strong bias; if Hive was open and decentralized you should NOT act on it.
But the way it is, you are just in line with some other actors who censor Hive 'in the name of good'. You are obviously too full of yourself.
don't be a hypocrite! this blogger (by the way, a citizen of Ukraine) is not a military man and does not participate in the war. he applier his efforts on reporting the facts and the situation analyzis. this is fair game, rediculous that you consider it as part of military activity directed against Ukraine that you dont want to support. by “shooting” him, you support only Censorship at Hive.
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thank you for your words of encouragement.
you are absolutely right, I am against the continuation of war and bloodshed on either side.
But I have no influence on what is happening in my country, only to share my impressions about it.
which is worth a lot! Thanks.
WORD!
Fair game has become such a rare thing, and Hive seems more and more bad at it.
@theguruasia you should listen to @qwerrie.
I'm with you on the return of the tokens, at this point, due to the ex post facto application of the rules.
IF we allowed folks to declare 'crimes' after the fact, fewer people would be outside the prison system.
I am against vote buying in general, including paying for delegations, I don't really see a difference, but had the rules been published prior to your post then posting in violation of them would signify your willingness to lose them.
I don't know what helios sells for, but 30 tokens to make one's self look fair and above board seems a small price to pay, to me.
I absolutely agree with you, it's about publishing rules ex post facto for a specific situation!
We have a negative experience with steemit:
While some work hard to improve the core and ecosystem, others parasitize the fruits of their labors by simply trading their votes, without adding any additional value to the Hive platform
I almost forgot
https://hive-engine.com/trade/HELIOS
The cost of a vote is 5 - 15 coins
Yay! 🤗
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Best is, if you completely forget helios.voter and move on sharing your interesting first-hand content from this area! I happily support you (without any coins😀).
Guys are on their way to oblivion.
Out of kindness, I decided to contribute a little to their endeavors instead of silently forgiving them for their rudeness.
I would be very pleased to have you as a guest on my blog. I try to make it interesting and comfortable for all of open mind people.
Glad to meet you!
You cannot defeat the truth with a lie. And evil will never defeat good.
Good is not presented the way you do.
That is why nationalism is doomed to defeat!
Evil is doomed to defeat.
The good did not start the war and did not attack other countries or kill people.
Not even on May 2nd?
You mean Prigozhin? Where is he? What did he want?
You'll ask him when you see him!
You explain what hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers are dying for in Ukraine, who will never return to their mothers, wives and children.
Maybe defending own country from aggressive Banderovites aspiring to Nato, or maybe cleaning my land from people like you?
Honestly, I don't know. Have any thoughts?
The idea is simple. That war is evil. And theirs is not a war to defend themselves, but a war of aggression with the murder of others who have decided to live and live freely. As for attacking the world's second largest army with nuclear weapons, you have to be very clever to come up with such a thing and believe it.
Is the saucepan preventing you from accepting simple ideas?
You can live and develop in peace without disturbing others.
If you start threatening, have the power to carry out the threat, or you will have to answer for it
Everyone will find what they are looking for. Everyone sees what they want to see. Whoever wants evil will get evil, and whoever wants good will get good.
Your comments and posts are aimed at war and evil.
Can you confirm that, or is that just another one of your empty words?
Do you know why the civilised world does not believe Russia? Because people there are smarter and therefore live better.
Because the civilized world, like any other world, consists mostly of sheep, who tend to believe the corrupt media.
You're proof of that!
Do you have the truth? Do you think you believe in the truth? I mean, most people live without war, but do you think there is truth in war?
War isn't about truth, it's about protecting your own interests.
Putin and Hitler are the same, and their interests are the same.
you and Chikatilo are the same, and you have the same interests!
How's that for a statement?
Which one do you think is more valid, yours or mine?
Live with it now))))
We live in our own country on our own land with our own culture and language. We were attacked by the Russians. We are defending ourselves against the aggressor who came with weapons to our land. That is the whole truth.
Keep telling yourself that all the time
This is your culture?
If you had studied the history of the Second World War carefully. You would have noticed that Putin is acting just like Hitler, the same rhetoric, the same actions. Hitler told the Germans the same things that Putin is saying now. He also attacked Poland with the same words that Putin used to attack Ukraine.
Interestingly, at that time Stalin also attacked Poland together with Hitler and killed Polish officers he had captured in a massacre.
Did they tell you that in the new history of Ukraine? Or are these the events you witnessed?
That 'good-bad' is very academic in that case.
You explain what hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers are dying for in Ukraine, who will never return to their mothers, wives and children.
You should think about what you spend your life on. And what the consequences of your actions are. You have to live with it. If you don't know what's a lie and what's the truth, then I feel sorry for you. If you knowingly lie, then get ready to answer for your lies before the laws of the universe. A sane and normal person cannot bring good and happiness through war and lies. What you do for others, you will get for yourself.
I hope so! 🙏
You explain what hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers are dying for in Ukraine, who will never return to their mothers, wives and children.
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