Did You Expect Honey to Be a Scam?

The moment I saw influencers talk about Honey (through Linus Tech Tips IIRC), I though of it as a company that is going to replace the referral codes with their own that will most likely sell all the web browsing data and other analytics of the users. I thought most of the readers I have on HIVE will figures out this on their own.

Few days ago I came across this video and I watched it expecting to confirm what I was expecting in the first place. The video did not even have a million views at the time. I forgot to share it around and today I see the same video with 11 million views and more channels talking about it.

The most surprising part was that Honey was bought for 4 billion dollars by PayPal and the company was far more nefarious than selling user data + "stealing" referral rewards. Honey was far worse than my initial assumption and PayPal is an even worse company than I thought. Watch the full video that is backed by a solid research.

TANSTAAFL (There Ain’t No Such Thing as a Free Lunch)



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Yeah I’m all set with these types of things. Sadly people don’t understand that these companies have people install apps on their phones, give them their information and access to their phone and they just mine the shit out of the data and sell it like a cancer that they are. Rinse and repeat but change the name.

Not at all surprised about this one.

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People don't even look at the permissions these apps are asking for. Many of them ask for precise location even when they have no features that need even an approximate location. Switching to Linux and using F-Droid is one of the best decisions I have made.

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Yeah dude I’m moving to a open source phone at some point in the near future. I don’t know exactly when yet but soon! I’m going with graphene OS based, as I’ve heard a lot of good things about it.

Sadly people have very little idea just how insidious the data harvesting truly is!

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A Google Pixel will get you the highest flexibility. I will be switching to GrapheneOS myself once I make some money in the bull market. I will make sure to buy it second hand so that I won't be spending money on Google to avoid Google.

Sadly people have very little idea just how insidious the data harvesting truly is!

When they eventually get a glimpse of the reality, then they become apathetic. That is the worst part of trying to educate people on the atrocities going on.

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Yeah these are Pixel phones I believe which is good. I think they are brand new, which can be a pain because it does profit g*^gle but I tend to keep a phone for a really long time. I don't want to say what version I've got now LOL

Yes indeed it is very frustrating and unfortunate people get so beat down they offer virtually no resistance to the insidious crap!

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Devices are supported for 5 - 7 years. That is enough for most use cases. I normally switch the phone once the battery stops holding the charge.

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I do not know about honey until I watched megalag's video and that honey does not operate in my country. But when it comes to products that were advertised as free, I always have my doubts.

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"If something's free, you're the product."

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This is usually the case. FOSS would be a rare exception.

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Thank God for FOSS

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The best part is some of these FOSS projects are finally starting to cater to general users such as https://universal-blue.org

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I've been using FOSS since I was 15 years old in 2015. Migrated over to Linux in 2016 and have dualbooted ever since. I'm gonna try to stick to Linux throughout the entirety of 2025 and keep using FOSS apps for my content creation (Krita, GIMP, Kdenlive, Inkscape, etc)

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I skipped the entire dual boot phase and embraced Fedora after testing it out on a different laptop for some time. One of the big selling points I use about FOSS to other people is that the software do not come with ads or any artificial limitaitons that ask for a premium/pro version.

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I only dualbooted because of certain games (BF1, LoL, etc) but now I just decided that it's not worth keeping games with such intrusive anti-cheats installed.

I nuked my Windows partition just this morning and now I have an extra 100+gbs for games on /dev/sda hahaha

I was using Fedora before too, but now I'm on Arch.

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I haven't had time for games outside of blockchain for a few years now.

I have an extra 100+gbs for games on /dev/sda hahaha

Congratulations!

I was using Fedora before too, but now I'm on Arch.

I was too afraid to try Arch. Fedora seemed to be good enough + stable enough. The Kernel updates are only a few days behind and if I really had to use Arch, I will use DistroBox + BoxBuddy.

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