Possible explanation for the recent Bitcoin crash (October/November 2025), Strategy (MSTR) vs J.P. Morgan, real or just FUD?

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Mittlerweile kursieren auf X zahlreiche Erklärungen für den starken Einbruch von Bitcoin, wobei man wie immer solche Theorien mit Vorsicht genießen sollte.

Eine gängige Erklärung ist ein Machtkampf zwischen Old vs. New Finance und auch die Trump-Regierung könnte mit den Stablecoin-Plänen und offenen Krypto-Support darin involviert sein und auf Widerstände bei Old Fi stoßen.

Ein mögliches Delisting aus dem MSCI Index von (Micro) Strategy (MSTR), steht im Raum. Es soll evaluiert werden, ob Strategy tatsächlich eine Tech-Firma oder eher ein Fund ist.

Diese Entscheidung wird für Anfang 2026 erwartet, wobei der Ausgang noch offen ist. Bei einer Einstufung als Fond könnte MSTR in Folge dann auch aus anderen Indizes wie dem Nasdaq fliegen, was negative Auswirkungen auf den MSTR-Kurs aber nicht unbedingt auf die Bitcoin-Käufe von MSTR hätte.

Auf X wird weiter spekuliert, dass J.P. Morgan wegen großen Short-Positionen ein Interesse daran hätte, MSTR unter Druck zu setzen.

Allerdings sind diese ganzen Gerüchte nur schwer überprüfbar. Jedenfalls würde selbst ein Delisting von MSTR nicht automatisch bedeuten, dass MSTR keine Bitcoin mehr kaufen könnte oder liquidiert werden müsste. Diese Sorgen sind meiner Meinung nach völlig übertrieben.

Strategy bietet Digital Asset Treasury-Dienstleistungen (DAT) für seine Kunden an, was zunächst unabhängig vom Aktienkurs und dem Listing von MSTR ist.

Aber natürlich hätte ein Delisting negative Auswirkungen auf den Markt, eher psychologische als reale, aber es könnte Teil eines größeren Machtkampfs um die Vorherrschaft von Bitcoin-Treasury-Produkten darstellen und einige Player haben vielleicht tatsächlich ein Interesse, MSTR zu Fall zu bringen.

Was sagt ihr dazu? Wie schwerwiegend wäre ein potentielles Delisting von MSTR wirklich? Denkt ihr, dass es zum Delisting kommen wird, oder dass MSTR eher als Tech-Company gesehen wird?

Strategy vs. J.P. Morgan, real or FUD?

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https://x.com/_Adrian/status/1992730178951495903

Counterargument

https://x.com/_The_Prophet__/status/1992671061989847162

Response from Michael Saylor

https://x.com/saylor/status/1991875241107222701

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Meanwhile, numerous explanations for Bitcoin's sharp decline are circulating on X, although, as always, such theories should be taken with a grain of salt.

One common explanation is a power struggle between old and new finance, and the Trump administration could also be involved in this with its stablecoin plans and open crypto support, encountering resistance from old fi.

A possible delisting of (Micro) Strategy (MSTR) from the MSCI Index is on the table. An evaluation is to be made as to whether Strategy is actually a tech company or more of a fund.

This decision is expected in early 2026, with the outcome still open. If classified as a fund, MSTR could then also be removed from other indices such as the Nasdaq, which would have a negative impact on the MSTR price but not necessarily on MSTR's Bitcoin purchases.

There is further speculation on X that J.P. Morgan would have an interest in putting pressure on MSTR due to large short positions.

However, all these rumors are difficult to verify. In any case, even a delisting of MSTR would not automatically mean that MSTR could no longer buy Bitcoin or would have to be liquidated. In my opinion, these concerns are completely exaggerated.

Strategy offers digital asset treasury services (DAT) to its clients, which is initially independent of MSTR's stock price and listing.

But of course, a delisting would have a negative impact on the market, more psychological than real, but it could be part of a larger power struggle for dominance of Bitcoin treasury products, and some players may indeed have an interest in bringing down MSTR.

What do you think? How serious would a potential delisting of MSTR really be? Do you think it will be delisted, or that MSTR is more likely to be seen as a tech company?



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Honestly, with the crash of crypto recently, i think its a way of shaking off the weak investors. I still believe in crypto for the long term.

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Also ob das wegen denen ist, k.a.

Ich glaube aber das da welche den Kurs drücken um günstig an BTC zu kommen.

Sonst wäre der Kurs sicherlich schon längst>150k

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The market will be heavily affected if MSTR will be delisted

!BBH

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This issue between J.P. Morgan and Strategy has affected a lot of crypto investors

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Interesting take! Looks like MSTR is becoming more of a Bitcoin play than a traditional tech stock.

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I love how optimistic Michael Saylor is about the future of BTC, and how the company keeps increasing it's BTC holdings under him. They might become one of the richest companies by market cap should BTC ever hit over a million dollars in price. If J.P Morgan is part of the people pushing for a delisting of MSTR it might happen, although I don't think the consequences would be too severe.

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The whole situation around the Bitcoin drop and the MSTR delisting talks seems a bit overblown. It feels like there’s a lot of fear and guessing going on, but not many solid facts. Hopefully things calm down soon.

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Hi , you might want to check your witness votes , i saw your name voting for a witness that is no longer active ;)

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I also think that when Europeans stupid politicians and generals say "get read to lose your sons" or "2025 was last summer in peace" that doesn't help investments

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It could be that JP Morgan is behind the rumored price suppression/market manipulation but eventually, they'll lose, nothing stops this train. Strategy will be fine if/when delisted from such indexes.

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I think it will be interesting to see if it gets delisted. It doesn't bode well for BTC if that does happen, but I am not sure about the shorting. If JP Morgan is going after MicroStrategy, then I don't see them losing due to the funds they have.

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