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It has become obvious Tyler Robinson is a patsy that did not take a rifle up to the roof of the Losee Center, and did not have a rifle with him when he jumped down. Regardless of the rest of the story, that means he did not shoot Charlie Kirk with his Grandpa's .30-06. Had he had that rifle with him during either movement, it would be visible in the pics and video released by the FBI. The stock could be separated from the action and barrel, but the stock is one solid piece of wood ~30" long, and ~6" wide at the butt. The barrel is 24" long and cannot be separated from the action in the field, making the metal parts at least 30" long, and ~5 or 6" wide at the trigger. It wouldn't fit in his backpack, nor down his pant leg - and both of his legs are shown bending as he climbed the stairs, so neither part could have been in his pants.
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The firearm is not visible on Tyler Robinson, broken down or otherwise, so that theory is proved false. Whether he was a willing accomplice, or an unwitting stooge, we will likely never know because the FBI will continue to lie, and maybe trot out a Jack Ruby as necessary to close the investigation. Tyler Robinson did not kill himself, and neither did Charlie Kirk. This guy seems to have killed Charlie Kirk:
I don't know anything about this video but what you see. Unless this is AI, that seems to be the real killer, and to have spook written all over him, using a palm gun linked to targeting goggles. If it's AI, it's good AI. Other AI video I've seen has obvious artifacts that make it able to be differentiated from live video of actual events. Whomever's video this is should be able to be ascertained from their location, because of the other people recording video and that location being triangulated from the rest. The guy with the white hat visible in the bottom left should also show this Brown Shirt assassin if this is real video, and not AI. The movements of the crowd should be the same viewed in all the various videos of the actual event at different angles. AI video of the event might not match the multiple real video recordings, and that should be able to identify AI fake(s).
IOW, it should be provable that this is real video, because that Brown Shirt should be shown on other video of the event. The person that took this video and uploaded it should be able to be identified and to confirm that's what they did. The shooter should be identifiable using facial recognition software that is in the wild. Perhaps someone using that software to identify Facebook accounts of pr0n actresses could do something useful with it instead, like identify this Brown Shirt assassin.
I want there to be a just arrest, trial, and conviction of the actual murderer, and their conspirators, of Charlie Kirk, and this video seems to make that individual identifiable, but that will require sourcing and sorting other video of the event, to confirm or deny that this is a video recording of the real event. Tyler Robinson could not have pulled the trigger because he did not have a trigger to pull on the roof of the Losee Center. Even if this Brown Shirt guy is AI and a fake, Tyler Robinson isn't the shooter, and is likely in grave danger of being killed himself, because he was probably interacting with spooks that groomed him to be the patsy for this assassination. If we can prove this is real video of the event and identify the actual assassin, we might be able to save Robinson's life and avert a catastrophic degeneration of American civil society that is being imposed through censorship and cancellation of people for their opinions - as Charlie Kirk was canceled with extreme prejudice. That isn't the America I want to live in, or the America I want my sons to inherit.
Alt media reporters know how to source and sort video sources, and there are a lot of video sources of this event that have been published. If you have such skills, or you know anybody that does, see what you can find out.
Maybe we can head off the consequences of the psyop, censorship, and social credit culture of kill that is building on Kirk's assassination and the conviction of a patsy for that crime. Palantyranny is not the flying car future I dreamed of as a child growing up in the 60's. Let's change the paradigm. Maybe we won't make our dreams come true, but maybe we can prevent our worst nightmare from happening.
What makes that odysee video suspicious and dubious are a few things.
As you say, there are other people in this footage recording other footage. I used to work for a telecommunications company. Through law enforcement liaison, the systems exist (and are trivially easy to use) to identify which devices were in what vicinity, based on the location of the cell towers and an anticipated attenuation profile.
It is a large gathering, so there are many people, and more fuzziness to a search like that.
I for one don't know, but can only provide the additional information above on matters with which I am familiar. I am not familiar with anything else surrounding these events.
Finally, some comments:
It takes less than a minute to generate a clip of this quality on a gaming GPU locally, far less time on larger compute nodes. The quality is about the same, regardless of generation origin, and there's a lot you can do with local models. I've explored them extensively.
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I appreciate your informed comment. I have never used AI on purpose (other than spellcheckers and translation services) and have no idea about aspect ratios and quality potential. From other reporters that have shown AI generated crowds in music videos, for example, there were flaws like fused fingers and etc. I didn't see any of those, and that's all I knew to even look for.
I do suspect AI, which is why I mentioned it several times, and asked for proof it was AI. If no one can prove it's AI, it's probably not AI. That's the scientific method in a nutshell. I don't know anything about bit rates, but I think there are programs that alter that, such as FFMPEG (which I should learn to use, I am told). The additional information about aspect ratio is similarly strong evidence, but I concede it's possible that video can be recorded with apps that provide a more square aspect ratio, or could be modified for that purpose after recording. Aspect ratio of cell phone recordings is a complaint so common I have even heard it, so it's plausible it could have been altered in those ways. However, I think your analysis is stronger evidence it's AI than the video is of a real recording, so that's what I'm left with.
Either way, as I pointed out, Tyler Robinson didn't have that bolt action .30-06 on him when he climbed the stairs - if that's him in the screencaps the FBI released - nor did he have it when he jumped down from the roof of the Losee Center. It's too bulky, even the two main parts it could be broken down to in the field, for him to have concealed it successfully. He therefore could not have been the shooter using the firearm the FBI claims he used. Someone else pulled the trigger on Charlie Kirk - or there is another firearm we aren't being told about - and even if it's not the Brown Shirt spook in the video, it's possible that an effort to source and carefully examine published video of the event might provide evidence of who the actual shooter was.
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Edit: in a video @manorvillemike shares below, several videos taken with cell phones are shared starting at ~29 minutes, and I note that all 4 different videos referred to as 1-4 in that clip, are essentially in the 4:3 aspect ratio. I don't know if they have been modified after recording or not, but none of them aren't in that aspect ratio. Camera 4 in those clips shows the Brown Shirt spook performing the same motions as in the video I posted in the OP. It actually appears to be that same video, only edited to focus on the movements of the Brown Shirt spook during the moment Charlie Kirk was shot.
From the view of Camera 1 in that clip, the guy taking Camera 4 video appears dressed in black with his face obscured by the canopy over the stage, although it could be the old guy wearing a ball cap further to the right in that view from Camera 1. Perhaps that information can be of help in identifying the Camera 4 video that shows Brown Shirt spook.
I watched a bit of it, given there is various angles now in the public domain, the analysis can be left to people who have experience with firearms and those with experience of how they behave.
4:3 aspect ratios is still suspect, but - I suspect these videos may have been filmed vertically on mobile, and on desktop, which is typiclly 16:10 , perhaps people have universally cropped those videos to make them easier to edit / bring attention to the content.
Given the various angles and the consistency of the footage, I would rescind some of my doubt about it being generated.
The more information that comes out, the less I believe that Robinson was the shooter. If Candace Owens statement that there is no exit wound in the back of the neck is factually correct, it is certain that some other weapon shot Charlie Kirk, because very few rounds would not pass through the neck. Only very low powered rounds like the .22 short might not. The video of the palm gun showed very little recoil, as if it were comparable to a .22 short. What is obvious is that the FBI's narrative is impossible, and is not what occurred.
Serious question, what about that video makes you believe a weapon is being fired from that man? He isn't even looking at Charlie until the moment before you hear the shot.
Let me be clear: this entire thing stinks, and Robinson does feel like a patsy.
But there's videos from further away from the tent where you hear the shot, and it clearly sounds like a supersonic crack from a rifle.
I've done plenty of shooting, and immediately knew a rifle was used.
You would not get that sound from a guy on the ground near Charlie with some kind of concealed small gun.
Also how would he aim this concealed gun at Charlie? It just doesn't add up to this guy being the killer.
In the videos of Robinson climbing off the roof the rifle is visible. He even drops it(or just the scope) when he does the high jump to the ground.
The rifle does not disassemble, that is correct.
However they did find a screw-driver on the roof, and I THINK they're implying that he removed the scope before climbing off the roof. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
In the photos I've seen it could easily be a composite/polymer chassis, or wood painted black.
There are claims that he had it inside his pants/shirt while walking funny in some of the videos. However, that could be he is injured after that at least 14 ft drop.
I don't know if we have footage of him actually entering the school. It's possible he placed the rifle on the roof somewhere ahead of the event too.
Another issue with sneaking it in concealed in his clothes: a large scope like that could lose it's zero if it's being pulled on by clothing. At least enough to make a first shot a slight miss. Also when you zero a sight/scope you're typically doing it for a certain distance, and if you're closer or further than that distance you learn the appropriate 'hold-off': a spot in the reticle outside of the zero/center that you line up on the target to compensate for distance/height/wind.
This is why sniper teams usually have a spotter next to the shooter with his own optic. He sees where the round impacts, so that the shooter can adjust his hold-off based on the spotters info vs the sniper's stand-off.
The shot itself isn't difficult or impossible for a decent shooter, but that's not including the stress of firing on a human above a crowd of that many people. A hunter would be stressed about it, and nerves affect accuracy.
It would be a lot more believable to me if he had fired more than one shot.
But it just so happens that the first shot would have immediately sent everyone moving, and it wouldn't have been successful.
It does stink, there's things that don't make sense. But I don't think the guy in that video is shooting a gun.
I appreciate you providing a well informed comment. Other than James Bond Q level gear, there's no way the Brown Shirt spook could have fired a palm gun with any hope of accuracy. A camera wirelessly linked to his goggles with an HUD display of the sight picture from the palm gun is not particularly difficult to make today. We've had similar tech for decades in tanks and planes, so it's not incredible for spooks to have much smaller sight systems suitable for such a covert palm gun. Google lens has been around for years, and spooks have much better gear than what is available commercially.
However, I think it's AI, and don't think the Brown Shirt spook is real. I want proof it's fake, and I think that shouldn't be beyond expectation because there are a lot of cameras taking video of that event, which can establish a consensus of real video that proves this video is fake. Also the analysis of that video can possibly locate the actual shooter. But, that doesn't have anything to do with Tyler Robinson, who couldn't have shot Charlie Kirk without the rifle the FBI says he used (unless they're hiding some other weapon that was used from us).
In the pics of Robinson going up the stairs, his pants are so tight you can clearly see his cell phone in his front pocket, and that's less than 1/2" thick. There is absolutely no way he had that rifle in his pants, even with the stock separated from the action and barrel. It would print visibly, just like his cell phone. Whether polymer or wood, the stock is one piece, ~30" long, ~6" wide at the butt, and ~2" at the termination of the forend. It's a long action Mauser with a 24" barrel, making the barrel attached to the action at least 30" long. With the scope attached to the action, it would also be well over 6" wide, too. According to his booking pics, he's 6' tall, 72". His backpack isn't 30" high and couldn't hold either piece of the rifle. Even if he had a hole in the backpack from which the barrel and forend of the stock could protrude, and stuffed them down his pants, they'd print. He's wearing tight pants. The forend is at least 2" thick at it's termination, and if that pack is ~18" tall (my daypack is ~14" tall), both the forend and the barrel would protrude >12" down his leg. They would be obvious. He neither had anything large enough to be that solid stock nor the barrel and attached action when he dropped off the roof. He had something much shorter, about the length of a scope (but thinner), perhaps, and some cloth like a towel.
WE don't. The FBI does. The Losee Center has just been extensively remodeled, and has brand new HD cameras that cover every place where Robinson is said to have been on the grounds of the center, including the roof, where the FBI claims he fired the shot from. The FBI should have video of every moment Robinson was on the grounds of the Losee Center, including where he posted up to fire from. The video of him running across the roof is deliberately cut so that it doesn't show him getting up, changing clothes, or breaking down the rifle, despite there should be video of him doing those things because the new cameras cover the entire roof. The pics in the OP are screencaps from surveillance video that show him walking up the stairs to the roof. One of the most suspicious things about the pics in the OP are that they seem to be deliberately chosen NOT to show Robinson's face clearly. What they do show clearly are his tightly clothed legs and upper body (his shirt is close fitting too). There is no rifle printing under his clothes, and it wouldn't fit inside the backpack even broken down into two pieces.
It occurs to me (and not only me) that the weird claim he changed clothes multiple times is an attempt to explain away people wearing different clothes in the surveillance footage, because Robinson wasn't alone and the FBI wants him to be a lone assassin. That adds to the suspicious screencaps that don't show Robinson's face clearly, and the fact he doesn't have a Mauser long action .30-06 with him when he goes up to the roof, nor when he jumps down. The barrel and attached action would be almost half his body length, which the cloth and item he did have was nowhere near. What he was carrying in hand appeared to be able to fit in his backpack, in fact, so less than ~18" long.
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Here's the pic the FBI provided of Grandpa's '06, they claim was the assassination weapon. You'll notice right away the scope is mounted wrong, and more likely to blacken a shooter's eye than hit anything he aimed at. However the barrel is 24" long, and threads into the action ~1" forward of the front ring clamping the scope to the action. It's half the overall length of the rifle, which makes the stock >30" long, and it's one solid piece, as you can see. The Mauser long action also adds at least 6" to the barrel length. That's not what he had in hand when he jumped off the roof. What he had was not anything as wide as the action or the butt of the stock, and not as long as either action or stock.
Yes. I typically sight in an '06 for hunting hereabouts at 200 yards, because then it shoots ~1 1/2" high at 100 yards, and ~2" low at 300 yards (with slight variations depending on ammunition), making every well placed shot in the ~6" kill zone on a deer from zero to 300 yards without even adjusting for ballistics. That would be about perfect for the range at which the FBI claims Charlie Kirk was shot, too.
You're absolutely correct that if he detached the scope there is no way he'd shoot accurately. A head shot <200 yards isn't particularly difficult. But even just detaching the barrel and action with the scope still attached from the stock would negatively affect accuracy. I can print a 1" group at 200 yards with a rifle that can do it. One of the things I learned to do was 'bed' actions tightly into stocks, and free float barrels, to eliminate vibration/harmonics from variable movement of the stock relative to the barrel where they're in contact, and get rifles to shoot that accurately. Making that shot after detaching and re-attaching the scope is almost impossible - but even just breaking down the action from the stock would make that shot unlikely, because it wouldn't be possible to precisely reattach them to exactly the same position and tightness the rifle was sighted in with, which would add a minute of angle or two to the group at that range. An inch or two at 100 yards, and that shot was ~140 yards IIRC, spreading the group even wider. I would never voluntarily do that hunting, for example. I don't think any of that matters though, because looking at the pics of him climbing the stairs, there is no place for him to have that rifle with him, and he didn't drop off the roof with it either.
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A sophisticated likely state-sponsored spook could have a compact heads-up-display weapon for assassination, agreed.
However, it would almost certainly be a smaller caliber or a flechette-style projectile. But also, I would almost expect a .30 to make it through the neck at the relatively-short range from the roof. Though there were claims that his spine got trauma, but that could be from cavitation or even just shock to the brain and nerves concentrated that close to the impact.
I could see 5.56 or 5.45 not making it through the neck, and that was what I assumed this was going to be before they announced it.
5.45 in particular was known as the poison bullet because of it's tendency to enter the body and spall to damage internal organs, but 5.56 is similar because of it's speed and relatively low mass. Also why it's not the best hunting round in forests I would assume.
But to me, I don't know if the video is real or fake. I just don't see an obvious execution there from that guy.
There's also the fact the state actor would be conscious of the sheer amount of cameras in multiple directions there near Charlie.
There was an above-the-shoulder camera mounted at the back of that tent that was removed 5 mins after the shooting, and before police secured the scene.
That camera likely has footage that would prove more regarding this guy as I'm sure he's in frame.
To go through all the effort of having that guy there to do it, and then be caught on camera seems counter-productive UNLESS you had guaranteed cooperation from local authorities/federal in Utah.
The text messages from the alleged shooter are also quite strange, but they could be written in an obtuse way in an attempt to clear a network of other people involved with Robinson.
Long before this there have been lots of murders involving trans individuals associated with online networks such as 09A:Order Of Nine Angles.
Also he could be trying to clear his "lover".
I agree with almost everything you say here. Candace Owens says she has the footage of that camera behind Kirk when he was shot. However, on video shared by @manorvillemike below, it does in fact show the Brown Shirt spook moving just as he does in the video in the OP, for whatever that's worth.
Edit: according to Candace Owens, there is no exit (or wound of any kind) on the back of Charlie Kirk's neck after he has been shot. There is no way a .30-06 would not leave an exit wound, nor a 5.56 or other high speed rifle round. They just pack too much energy, as the video shared by @manorvillemike shows when they shoot a ballistic dummy head with and '06, and it literally explodes.
However, that isn't from the entry wound. The entry wound from a .30-06 is .30" across, because the bullet hasn't begun to dump it's energy by deforming and impacting the mass of the target. It is the rapid expansion of bullets after they enter the target that creates a significant wound channel, and exit wounds are much larger than entry wounds for soft pointed hunting ammunition. However, metal jacketed armor piercing ammunition does not expand and create a large wound channel, dumping it's energy in the target, because it is constrained by the metal jacket of the bullet. Full metal jacketed bullets are designed not to deform so that they can penetrate body armor or other impediments and penetrate the target. The exit wound of a jacketed bullet can leave the same size hole it creates on entrance, unlike soft point hunting ammo. Even a much cleaner hole in you than that made by hunting ammunition is a significant wound, and can be fatal if it pierces the right parts.
Only something as small as a .22 rimfire could potentially not leave an exit wound in a target as thin as a human neck. .22LR bullets pass right through rats, for example, and might well pass through a human neck as well, if they didn't impact the spine. I've used .22LR to kill downed cattle, and .22 bullets certainly pass through cow skulls to kill them instantly with a well placed shot right behind the ear. Every high powered rifle round would similarly pass through the neck, and even an armor piercing full metal jacketed round, or a .22 short, would have killed by rupturing the jugular as it did Charlie Kirk's. However, almost every round I can think of would leave an exit wound, passing through the neck - except possibly something as low power as the .22 short.
So full metal, small hole in and small hole out ?
Yes. Soft point hunting ammo has a partially jacketed bullet, with a lead, or other very soft metal, tip. The soft point is so that the bullet deforms and gets very wide, causing it to create as large a wound channel as possible, and dumping it's energy into the target. The jacketed base is to keep the base intact, connected to the mushrooming tip, and doesn't allow the bullet to fragment into many small pieces which are difficult to remove from the meat. A fully jacketed bullet isn't allowed to expand at all, and if it isn't diverted or stopped by bone (or pass through armor), it just passes through the target, making as small an exit hole as the entrance hole.
Edit: I just found information that the bullet has been found. It not exit Charlie Kirk's neck, but was stopped by his spine:
This was posted by someone named Kolvet, that is described as a producer for TPUSA, who was quoting the surgeon that worked on Charlie Kirk after the shooting.
I would certainly concur with the assessment that it is a miracle that the .30-06 bullet didn't create an exit wound. The entire narrative regarding this event is definitely a string of assertions that require believing in miracles.
https://www.sgtreport.com/2025/09/evidences-charlie-kirks-killing-was-a-professional-hit-job/
More incite into the assassination..
Part of above post https://theduran.com/evidences-charlie-kirks-killing-was-a-professional-hit-job/
This is BIG as big as 9/11 if true (and I have little doubt it isn't ) Israel's Mossad and our CIA deep state are behind this. But they are getting sloppy. Looks like an inside job all the way. Right down to his trusted security detail IMO.
Taking out Charlie does 2 things / gets him off Israel's back & divides us more than we are ...
Keep up your good investigating to awaken others //
This is the post on X I wanted to send you first. https://x.com/2Smartski/status/1968415728802976128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1969054789376901189%7Ctwgr%5E61ab8ae26dd55260feb5928ff4f499c76f4d89a2%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sgtreport.com%2F2025%2F09%2Fmore-evidence-that-tyler-robinson-was-not-the-shooter-but-just-the-patsy%2F
Lot of info and thoughts in the tread of this post.
In the pics and video the FBI has released they claim shows Tyler Robinson climbing to the roof and jumping off the roof with a Mauser long action .30-06 scoped rifle, I see no rifle. That lack of a rifle completely disproves the claim Robinson shot Kirk. My belief is that you are correct about Robinson being a patsy to blame to murder of Charlie Kirk on, and that murder was committed by someone else, for completely different reasons, and the FBI appears to be covering for that killer by making false claims that are obviously disproved by the very pics and video they claim are evidence of Robinson's guilt.
I'll have at that link presently.
Same old same old from my gov't since I was born. But now I'm awake and catching on thanks to the internet where you have choices to make better decisions.
Since I don't have an account on X anymore, I can only see the image you linked to, and not the entire thread. It is a convincing piece of evidence that the shot was taken from <100 feet away, and not the >100 yards the FBI has claimed. It strongly suggests that Grandpa's .30-06 could not have been the murder weapon, and Tyler Robinson is not the murderer. Sound travels at specific speeds, and that acoustic analysis is probative the FBI is lying.
I don't know how to interpret that audio data via the graphs he's showing.
The other problem with all of these things is that social media provides motivation to generate content like these audio analysis because it lends credibility to the person posting it resulting in more views.
At the end of the day I can say the same exact thing about Candace Owens really.
Each live-stream she does about Kirk has 3 million views within 10 hours of her doing it.
Not that she shouldn't, but there's real monetary incentives for hanging on to the narrative on almost any of these content creators.
That doesn't discredit them, but it does provide them with this self-serving motive.
And you see that with all of them to some extent. There's a lot of "trying to make this about me" going on using Charlie Kirk's name for SEO.
I very strongly agree with your comment regarding the obviously deliberate false narrative being promulgated by the authorities. While Candace Owens (and potentially even me) can be accused of profiteering off the hooplah, this isn't the case for the USG and FBI. I recall that the Republican Party voted against releasing the Epstein files proposal by Rep. Thomas Massie three hours before Charlie Kirk was murdered. The deliberate confusion, the Brobdingnagian Christian Zionist propaganda, and full court press by the enemedia seems perfectly timed to completely suppress the reality that American politicians have investigated themselves and agree they aren't being blackmailed for being child molesters by Israel.
Screw Candace and me. That's the issue. Israeli intelligence uses scumbags like Epstein to pimp children to American politicians like Donald Trump so that they can be blackmailed and controlled like puppets on a string. That completely explains US foreign policy, even the existence of the Fed, IMHO. That is the most important issue facing America and the world today, and everything else are distractions, shiny objects dangled in front of our eyes to blind us from what we've seen. We've seen Trump claim Epstein was a 'Democratic hoax' after he was one of the primary hoaxers during his campaign.
That is absolutely grounds for not just impeachment, but hanging. It is certainly probable cause for an investigation - but Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are obviously groveling minions that won't investigate their asses with both hands unless their lord and master Trump tells them to. Then they'll investigate them up to their elbows.
As to the acoustic analysis, sound travels at a specific speed in given media. Earth's atmosphere at particular elevation, temperature, and humidity levels. The graphic shows the timing of the detected sound and the exact delay between the impact of the bullet on Charlie Kirk and the arrival of the sound of the firearm being fired at Charlie Kirk's location in the atmospheric conditions then extant. That time of ~.2 seconds completely disproves that the shooter was >100 yards away, and that the shot was fired within 100 feet - from within the audience around Charlie, not from the Losee Center roof.
Sadly the rogue CIA/FBI and you name it agencies are using their power and positions to carry out a diabolic agenda. Who is behind all this satanic madness. Plenty to choose from, starting with people who are rich beyond belief. Rabbit hole leading to other holes. Enjoy your Tuesday
I quite enjoyed Tuesday. I climbed a mountain tracking a herd of elk, found where they'd bedded down, tracked them for miles until they reached a powerline where their tracks were lost in brush and grass. It was a gorgeous day, and I remember checking in with myself on the way down the mountain, noting the sublime old growth Spruce forest and weather, the freedom and almost primeval natural task and operations I was conducting so that I'd remember it.
The good 'ol days was today.
Great way to clear your head. Surrounding yourself with nature, becoming part of it. We take walks in the woods and beaches where few people go.
So non-FMJ or ball ammo is actually banned by military use under "war crimes", or so I've been told.
Most guys who shot the M855 or Green Tip 5.56 in combat have said they didn't think of it as a great people-killing round, but that it worked well shooting at people inside of vehicles. The claim was that it would often travel through people.
And yes the soft-expansion of a round into flesh is ideal for causing more damage, but even with FMJ 5.56 the ammo is known to 'tumble'when meeting resistance like flesh.
If something moving fast changes direction there is going to be a lot of energy imparted from that. That's considered a feature of the intermediate rounds as far as I know. There is also papers from the switch from 7.62 NATO that deal with the upsides of the switch including more shots carried by each person.
Better accuracy/less recoil.
But also the doctrine that wounded casualties are preferable to kills because soldiers then have to assist them and get them back to the medical facilities where they become more of a cost on the enemy once again through resources used to heal them.
But that's 5.56, and this is .30-06. Oh and the switch from .30-06 to .308/7.62 NATO I BELIEVE was done assuming .308 was more accurate out at longer ranges, and that was preferable to the extra weight/speed.
The idea of a round with that much weight moving that fast, and not exiting is insane to me. The only partial-explanation I've heard(with no evidence of it) is that he was wearing a possible plate/vest, and the bullet ricocheted off of that into his jugular vein. That's a maybe, but I don't know enough to say that's likely or unlikely.
What I do know is that it was weird for that guy close to Charlie's team to say that Charlie's bones were so strong it stopped the bullet that could have injured other people. I think he called Charlie Superman too.
That's a very weird statement.
Every time we have these monumental events in the USA there is an inherent tendency for us to distrust the official story we are given, but then there's almost always conflicting evidence and testimony followed by all sorts of strange anomalies.
For example: Oklahoma City bombing, 9/11(it's like a labyrinth of rabbit-holes inside of spaghetti), and more recently the Vegas Shooting.
We never get the full picture, but often we also don't have someone who is going to trial. If this kid ends up dead that'll be the final thing I need to say they're lying to us, period. Oh and I almost forget about Epstein, funny that.
You are completely correct in every point.
There is a reason we're subsumed in controversy during these events, and that's because we're ruled by gangsters that use blackmail to control child molesters in political office to profit from our suffering. These events are all committed by that mob for that reason.
The "father's 30-06" had its scope set for shooting standing up. If it was used while prone, the scope would be through the shooter's eye socket.
Nothing of this story adds up.
And the worst is the guys who took over Charlie's show.
It would have been difficult to shoot with the scope set so far back regardless of what position the shooter was in. I have banged my eye with scopes before, and that one is a banger. However, the official narrative is that Robinson packed a disassembled firearm up to the roof, assembled it before shooting, disassembled the firearm after the shooting, and then reassembled it at the drop point. He is also claimed to have changed clothes before and after the shooting. Given that the Losee Center cameras showed the entire roof, the several minutes these things would have taken would have easily been observed by security and would have made him easy to intercept.
Simply slapping a scope on and screwing down the rings after jumping from the roof and running to the drop point could produce such a poorly installed scope, but I don't think any of that happened because Robinson didn't pack the rifle up on the roof and didn't remove the rifle from the roof - if that is him in the screencaps climbing the stairs and in the video jumping off the roof. If Robinson shot Kirk, the Losee Center's cameras captured him doing so, and also assembling the rifle after climbing up, disassembling it before jumping down, and changing his clothes before and after shooting. The only reason I can think of for the FBI to withhold such video evidence is that it doesn't exist, because Robinson never took that rifle up on the roof, and someone else dressed differently shot Charlie Kirk with a different firearm. The contemporaneous presence of multiple people on the roof that would be captured by the Losee Center's surveillance cameras will necessitate missing footage from that surveillance video, just like the supposed 'proof' video that Epstein killed himself. They may intend to pass off a physically similar shooter wearing slightly different clothes as Robinson after one of the multiple clothes changes, but unless they show Robinson doing all these things, I won't believe it.
I already don't believe it.
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I agree Robinson guy never had a gun on the roof. He is looking like the mk ultra patsy in this mess. I am no gun expert but a 30 06 should have made a bigger sound then I heard. // Brown shirted guy looks like he is standing in front of Charlie. He was shot from his right side.
someone in the crowd in this picture or inside the building would be my guess.
Also finding the bullet should have been priority # one. Crime scene should have been frozen till they found it. That would eliminate the planted rifle if it was smaller caliber.
This is an excellent point I didn't raise, but is absolutely true. It is diagnostic of false flags that security and investigative procedures are blatantly violated, evidence quickly destroyed by authorities, or never being collected. There is no good reason the FBI doesn't have that bullet. An ordinary .30-06 hunting round would absolutely have shattered vertebra(e) had it struck the spine, and Kirk's head would not have remained supported had the spine been struck. That bullet would also establish a trajectory. There is an entire field of blood spatter science that has been developed to parse that kind of evidence, and there's been no mention of any such thing by the FBI to my knowledge. There was only one wound visible from the front, which means the bullet didn't travel from beside Kirk on a directly lateral path, because that would have left two wounds visible from the front (it struck the jugular, which is in front of the spine, and the bullet would have continued on into the crowd to either side), but relatively in line from front to back. Had the bullet come from behind him it would have also continued into the crowd, and that didn't happen. The wound was off center, but caused by a projectile coming from in front of him and an '06 would create a substantial exit wound, blood spatter, and a bullet impact on something behind him which would establish the exact trajectory from which it came.
Destruction or concealment of evidence by authorities is a characteristic feature of false flags where the actual evidence disproves the official narrative, and the failure to produce the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk is strong evidence of a false flag.
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Patel's FBI is still enemy # one to transparency and truth. Business as usual. Pretty amateurish job when a dope like me can spot all the inconsistences//
Dear @valued-customer !
Do you think the real killer of Charlie Kirk was an anti-Semite?
I don't. I don't know, obviously, but I think there is substantial motive that has been created by Charlie Kirk's recent epiphany challenging the genocide in Gaza and the blatant fake hoax desperately trying to suppress the Epstein blackmail conspiracy. Antisemites have been mad at Kirk his whole life, and it would be ridiculously ironic if they moved against him just as he ended his blind subservience to Zionism and was himself accused of being an antisemite by the American Jewish Council for it, even preposterous.
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Dear @valued-customer !
East Asians like me don't understand why Europeans and Americans have anti-Semitic tendencies!
Most East Asians don't even understand the difference between Judaism and Christianity!
I thought the Jews killed Jesus for blasphemy because he claimed to be Yahweh!
Ordinary East Asian Christians like me believe that studying Judaism can help us understand the fundamentals of Christianity!
I thought you unliked Jews because they created socialism and communism!
As much as I do not like those things, that isn't why I oppose Zionism. Most Jews aren't religious. Many are even atheists, or worse. Judaism isn't really following Torah - what Christians call the Old Testaments, or the Tanakh. Judaism is following the Talmud, that is the Rabbinical interpretation of the Torah, or so it is claimed. [Edit: Also, it is not me that is antisemitic, because Semites are a group that speak semitic languages, and only Jews commit these crimes against humanity. The Palestinians, Arabs, and others are also Semites, and these facts in evidence do not apply to them. It is rather Jews that are antigoyim, and all non-Jewish Semites and other ethnic groups, cultures, and races are called Goyim by Talmudic Jews.]
In the Talmud are a variety of policies, such as that Jews are the only actual human beings, and non-Jews, or Goyim, only look like people but are actually beasts without souls, inhuman animals that Jews not only have the right to rob, rape, and murder at will, but a duty to enslave in order to benefit Jews. There's more, and much worse than even that in the Talmud, and the Talmud is the actual teaching of the Rabbis - the teachers of the law - that governs the treatment of people by Jews today. This is why Jews spit on Christians in Israel, and claim that Jesus is a common criminal that is boiling in excrement in Hell, and why Jews can sexually abuse Goy children as Epstein did, and are not committing sin or offending Yahweh when they do.
Here is a translation of the Talmud into English, so you can read for yourself what it says and why I expect the treatment of Palestinians to be suffered by all non-Jews when it is convenient for the Jews, if we don't prevent it. I am absolutely against the genocide of the Palestinian people, whom are mostly children. As a scholar you can verify what I have said is factually correct, and once you realize that is the truth, you can see the horrific terrorism that is inflicted on non-Jews by Israel is exactly how the Zionist Jews intend to treat all non-Jews after they conquer the world - and that is what they are doing right now.
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Edit: I wanted to add this video because you can verify the statements by Ian Carroll more easily since they are mostly recent historical events, and there's no need to translate scripture from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek to do so.
https://odysee.com/@CosmicEvent:5/Creating-Israel--Terror-in-the-Middle-East:e
Dear @valued-customer !
Most Jews I've met eat pork and drink alcohol.
Most Jews seemed as irreligious as I was!😅
I have also seen Bangladeshis who officially practice Muslim but are actually Christian.
They are Bangladeshis, but they act outwardly as Muslims because the state prohibits conversion from Muslims to Christians.
I don't understand the Talmud, so I have a hard time understanding your argument! Most East Asians remember the film Schindler's List, directed by Steven Spielberg, a Jew. So, I remember the history of the unjust massacre of Jews by Europeans!
I remember that many Jews are Christians! Jesus, Peter, and Paul were all Jews who founded Christianity.
So,I think many of the people who founded America were Christian Jews!
I think among the Jews there is Jesus and there is Epstein!
Who do you think are the Jews who obey Talmudic law?
Do you think that Jews who follow Talmudic law threaten world peace?
I think there are many more who do not!
I wonder if I understood your excellent English sentences!
I hope your health and longlife!
Movies are fiction. The teachings of Rabbis are real and actual. The slaughter and rape of children ongoing in Palestine is occurring on a scale never before seen in history. That is real, unlike the fictional movie 'Schindler's List'. More than 50k children have been burned, blown up, shot twice (double-tapped to make sure they were dead) by snipers, and starved to death, amongst other deadly harms, in Palestine since Oct 7, 2023. This has all been arranged by Netanyahu, who is deeply linked and allied with Chabad Lubavitch, and so has a close relationship with Donald Trump, who was raised in close association to Chabad Lubavitch because his father, Fred Trump, built Brighton Beach for the Russian mobsters fleeing the Soviet Union, and they were all Chabad Lubavitch because enslaving and murdering Goyim like cattle is very profitable.
This is how it works: Rabbis study the Talmud, the opinions of specialists regarded as very wise and learned by other Rabbis. Then they advise Jews on how to conduct their affairs as experts. The Talmud is basically debate between Rabbis, and this is the source of the teaching and advice Rabbis provide. Jews, whether religious and observant or not, revere Rabbis as wise and learned. Jews that study scripture are studying to become Rabbis, and those that aren't training to become Rabbis don't study it much. They have experts, Rabbis, for that. There are a few passages that are used on holidays, but most of the scriptural understanding of most Jews comes from the experts, who tell them what they have learned from the Talmud. Settlers steal the houses of Palestinians to remove them from their homes so they'll have no place to live, and if Palestinians put up any fight they are burned in their homes, shot, or arrested and raped in jail as terrorists, which process has gradually replaced Palestinians and Palestine with Jews and control by the jurisdiction of the polity called Israel. Settlers are following the advice of Rabbis, according to the Talmud, which holds that non-Jews are not human beings, so there's no sin from raping, stealing from them, murdering them, lying to them, paying other Goyim to lie to them, and etc, so why not do these things? It's very profitable to steal their houses and murder them, pimp them out, sell their organs, and rob them.
That's what Rabbis advise: the fact that doing these things to human being is a horrific crime doesn't matter, because Goyim aren't human beings. This is why Chabad Lubavitch under the leadership of Menachem Schneerson, widely considered the Messiah by Lubavitchers despite his death some years ago, is basically the Russian mob. By these means they are waging a holy war against Goyim, and similarly, so is Israel and Mossad, whose motto is: 'By Deception we shall wage War'. You and I are Goyim. We, and all Christians, Muslims, Hindus, anyone that isn't a Jew, are merely beasts to be farmed by Talmudic Jews, just like Palestinians.
What's not to understand about that? I don't believe you don't understand it. I think you don't want to believe it, because you take on faith that the people that claim they are Jews are descendants of Hebrews, but they aren't descendants of Hebrews, and are mostly Polish, Ukrainian, and Russian. Benjamin Netanyahu's father was born Mileikowski in Poland. Benjamin Netanyahu is of Polish extraction, not Hebrew. Every Prime Minister Israel has ever had changed their name to sound more Jewish. Most are Polish or Ukrainian, like Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan. This is why they are also called the Name Stealers. They are posing as Jews, of the tribe of Judah, to take the inheritance of the tribe of Israel (the blessing of Isaac given to his son Jacob, who pretended to be Esau to trick Isaac into blessing him instead of Esau, Genesis 27:21-27) and are lying to do so. Why shouldn't they lie to get what Israel got by lying? Does tricking Isaac trick God into making them his Chosen people, and can tricking Christians into thinking Jews are Israelites trick God into delivering the world into the hands of liars? Is God tricked into making them the Chosen people because Isaac was fooled in this way? Isaac intended to deliver his blessing to Esau, and God only blesses truly, not choosing tricksters and liars just because Israel fooled Isaac. A blessing given under false pretenses is a false blessing, and does not somehow trick God. This is why Jesus said 'Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.' --John 8:44
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Read Revelations 2:9 and 3:9 to understand the difference between the polity, which is called Israel in order to make people believe it is the tribe of Israel, and the tribe of Israel. Jews aren't of the tribe of Israel. Jews are the tribe of Judah, not Israel. Chabad Lubavitch is the Russian mob, and these are the people you confuse with Jesus, the house of David, and the tribe of Israel (as does Jack Chick).
BTW, Jesus wasn't a Jew. He was of the House of David, a line of the tribe of Israel, not Judah. Jesus was an Israelite, according to the Bible. Israelis aren't Israelites. Putin said Israel was practically a Russian speaking country. Putin also is associated with Chabad Lubavitch, and so is Trump, and Zelensky too. They're all in the Russian mob, and raking in immense kickbacks from defense expenditures, their intelligence services can do anything they want, harvesting organs from battlefields and spending the profits on yachts.
King David was not a Kabbalist, and did not raise the Kabbalist star on his banner. Remphan, a Canaanite god (from which the word cannibal derives. 'Canaan' and 'Baal', because Canaanite priests would eat the children sacrificed to Baal), is associated with a 6 pointed star. The flag of the polity of Israel is the star of Remphan.
--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David
So, Kabbalistic Jews and Muslims (Kabalah is mysticism, occult symbolism and spiritual divination, including possession. It's practitioners are essentially pagans, like witches, which is why they include Muslims, and even Madonna today, amongst their cult) adopt the symbol of idolatry, the star of Remphan, and call it the star of David in Bohemia in the 1600s, and that's the Israeli flag. The symbol of idolatry. When you see the red string on the wrist, you know that person is a Kabbalist.
That is not an Israelite symbol. It did not come from David, an Israelite. It came from Remphan, a Canaanite god. Kabalah is a very powerful cult, including many wealthy and powerful practitioners, like Madonna, Putin, Tucker Carlson, and others you can find wearing the red string on their wrist, warding off the evil eye. That is not Judaism, but an occult pagan/idolatry system of spiritual beliefs that extend the Talmudic interpretations further in the Zohar.
I could go on into the Zohar, and further explain why the servility of Christians to Jews is corroborating their use of Goyim as cattle, utterly contrary to the teachings of Jesus and the principles of Christianity, but this is already more than I expect you to even read and try to confirm independently. My experience with Christians that have been duped into supporting Zionism suggests they wed their faith in Zionism with their Christian faith, and even the scriptural warnings and evidence Zionism is antichristian do not matter, because Christian Zionists refuse to challenge their faith in Zionism, equating it to their Christian faith.
Twain said it is easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled, and Twain was right. The facts in evidence from scripture and the live reporting of events in Palestine and the polity of Israel clearly only show the opposition of Zionism to Christians and the Bible, because it treats human beings as animals, and not as ourselves, as Jesus instructed. This is the essential doctrinal difference between slaughtering children for fun and profit, and guiding them to Jesus through Christianity as he also instructed, spelling out the consequences of harming children when He said 'But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.' and Mark 10:14-16 and 'But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.' Matthew 18:6.
Thousands of Christian children have been slaughtered in Palestine, their churches blown to smithereens, their parents killed, their doctors and hospitals murdered and destroyed, and they are shot like fish in a barrel when they try to get food from the humanitarian supplies that are infrequently and too little allowed in to Gaza. Is that what Jesus said to do? Supporting that Zionist genocide and all the crimes against the little ones, the children Jesus taught we should not offend, is contrary to every Christian principle, the direct statements of Jesus, and the very nature of common decency in the hearts of good people everywhere. Anyone that could do these things to children is not Christian in any measure, and is absolutely antichristian and inhumane to the fullest extent possible.
Someone may have misled you if your church hasn't mentioned these facts about Israel, Jews, and the Bible. You might compare the factual reality you observe with your eyes to the scripture I cite above, and see if that is exactly what seems to be the case. Then compare what you have been told about Zionism with what your eyes observe - the reality that God is creating for you to see - and see if that propaganda conforms to what you can observe. Are idolatrous Kabbalists waging war on humanity the Chosen people of God fulfilling the teachings of Jesus, or are they antichristian and doing exactly the opposite?
Then decide which one feels like the truth.
Dear @valued-customer !
Do you think Joseph from Oregon can understand your large and difficult English sentences?
The average American won't understand your argument! They will probably disagree with your argument!😮
I believe that the Jews of today are a completely different people from the Jews of the time of David and Solomon, because they have intermarried with so many foreigners over the past 2000 years!
Even in Jesus' time, the Jews were divided into Aramaic-speaking and Greek-speaking groups!
Christian Jews and Jewish Jews have been at war with each other for 2,000 years.
I believe most of the people of modern Israel are of Eastern European origin!
I believe the primary group that founded the United States was Christian Jews!
Do you believe Auschwitz was a hoax?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp
I believe the massacres, looting, rape, arson, and destruction committed by Hitler and the Nazi Party were real. It's true that they murdered countless Europeans, including Jews! However, I find the claim that 6 million Jews were murdered by them to be unreliable!
I think most of the Jews Hitler murdered were Europeans!
I'm not sure I understand your point!😅
I hope your health and long life!
I believe the Simon Wiesenthal organization that officially documents the claimed genocidal slaughter of Jews by the German state presently claims ~1.5m Jews were killed.
Regarding Auschwitz, it isn't credible that there was a gas chamber there in which people of any group were systematically killed. Whether that is claiming 'Auschwitz is a hoax' is a different matter.
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We definitely haven't been told the truth, aren't being told the truth, and must assume the FBI and the enemedia will continue to lie to us. Bondi is trying to use this to crack down on free speech, literally saying that 'Hate speech is not free speech', because of the people cheering over Kirk's death by assassination, but Charlie was definitely not in agreement with Bondi.
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All four of the people you just named were appointed by Trump. It's almost like you can't trust that guy.
No he has done great in many areas. But the most important position is Attorney Gen. Matt Gates was is first choice. He needs a Bulldog Attorney who will destroy the traitors.
There is a very strange video about the chair as well - I am not sure you have seen it, but I will talk about it in the next video - but there is a chair that goes through the table. Its very strange.
I haven't seen a chair going through a table during that event. I'll watch your analysis with interest. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your kind consideration. It is kind of you to reblog my post, and to consider my comments substantively.
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Everything that has happened leaves me feeling very cold; I cannot explain how disturbed I am. It is terrifying to think that horror could break out at any moment and in any place. In these unstable times, hatred is not only capable of moving mountains, it is the trigger for the worst aspects of society.
I very much relate to your description and primordial sense of disturbance. I have felt that inchoate horror at the reality I found myself in, under circumstances that were literally the destruction of everything I held dear.
We either survive catastrophes, or we do not. If we succumb, we no longer suffer. If we survive, we either become mentally incompetent because we cannot parse reality, or we overcome our horror, angst, and fear to react to environmental stimuli and take action to improve our circumstances as we are able. I have done the latter, and after the personal destruction of my life I have endured, I am not horrified at enemedia propaganda, although I am frightened enough to get angry about it.
Anger is the child of fear, and it is an emotion that prompts us to take action to protect ourselves from what we fear. We should all become angry enough to take nominal action to eliminate the threats that cause us fear. For me, the worst threat to the people of my country, my ethnic heritage, my sons and family, neighbors, and friends, is the rule by blackmail Mossad is exercising by controlling child molesters in public office, like Trump, today. I suspect that is a primary threat to produce whatever harms you fear most, too. When we overcome our fear to give rational thought to ending the threats, we can take action, and when we do this together we can succeed.
That is the best consideration and advice I have.
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