Is commenting on HIVE dead?
Hello everyone, over the past few months I have noticed a decline in the interaction we are getting with our posts. I understand posts coming from @SPinvest might not be everyone's cup of tea because they are mostly SPI-related and if you are not invested, why would you be interested? I get that but even when I check the trending posts which should be the most active content on the blockchain, I see posts with 500-1500 upvotes and 2-5 comments and think 🤯.
What happened guys?
Before I found STEEM HIVE I posted stacking content on a silver stacking forum and my experience with writing was always releasing a post as a way to start a conversation. Back in the day on HIVE, it used to be like this where a post was a jump-off point to the exchanging of ideas, experiences and conversations where we would learn and build friendships through common interests and thoughts.
These days, half the comments we get are from worthless tip bot things and a few loyal supporters that comment, "Nice post, keep up the great work". There's no real interaction there anymore. Why? Thats the billion-dollar question. Maybe long-form content is dead, maybe the community is dead, maybe alot of things.
Whatever the reason, it's getting harder to spend 1-3 hours writing and compiling a post when I know it's not going to get any real feedback. Why bother when I can throw out a much less detailed post in 15 minutes for the same result.
What do you think?
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I've noticed the same and am guilty of not commenting and also not posting because there is so little interaction.
I always admire how you keep soldiering on with good content for so little reward (by way of interaction). I was going to comment on one of your posts a couple of days ago because I felt bad that no-one else had done so but I never got round to it.
To be honest I never got into Hive. I was a bit jaded already by the attitude of many of the witnesses before we left Steemit so I never got into Hive in the way I did Steemit.
The communities there were much stronger and it was fun to post. A number of the communities I was active in there didn't cross over.
If it wasn't for Splinterlands I wouldn't be here at all and that's not what it was either, by a very long chalk.
The excitement of blockchain has worn off for me and there doesn't seem to be much innovation or forward movement from Hive in general. Back in the day we had regular meet-ups in London and elsewhere which I really enjoyed. Maybe it's mostly a case of the novelty has worn off?
Back on STEEM, I was heavy into the silvergoldstackers community but I remember many otehr strong communities back then as well. PAL, NEO, thealliance and others. Even LEO was better on STEEM, lol.
Like you say, it's just not been the same on HIVE. If I never started SPI, I dont think I'd be active on here.
We struggle on and keep grinding. Maybe things will turn around in the bullrun if the price of HIVE ever goes up, I see it's down to 25 cents again. I dont dare check the BTC to HIVE ratio 🙈
The novelty has worn off for alot I'd guess
Here let me help ... 😉
258,800 to 1 ... ~ Two months after you made a big decision ...
Yes, as I said in my final post, I'll be around ... And, yes, apparently ... Yours is one of the accounts I still follow ...
Maybe one day I'll see something you'll have to say about your decision here, as I never understood the logic behind it ... Other than the obvious, you have far more faith in the future of HIVE than I ever did.
Yes, I know this has nothing to do with the primary focus of your post. I guess you could always downvote it ... 😉 Seriously, I used to write a lot of comments and could comment now, but ...
This is probably enough ...
I knew the ratio would continue to drop, even said so in the post you linked.
The trade is based on the BTC>HIVE ratio, not the $ value. It is painful watching HIVE tank but in 2 years, we'll have forgotten the pain 😎. Last cycle the ratio peak was 330k HIVE to 1 BTC Jan 2021 and when HIVE jumped to over $3 by Nov 21, the ratio dropped to 20k HIVE > 1 BTC. Not saying the same will happen this cycle but we're not aiming for 20k>1BTC.
Keep the faith
Thanks for the reminder of this detail in your post. That you knew it ... And stuck with your decision anyway ...
Yep. Far more faith than I do ... Even this post and responses to it would suggest this cycle may be different ...
Anyway, for your sake and that of those who follow your advice, I will be fine with being proven wrong. I've made my decision with my own $$s ...
😎
This is an old hive problem that I honestly stopped trying to understand nowadays. I've been here for 3 years and a few months, I've already made some posts commenting precisely on this, the comments and everything, but today I see it more as a lost cause.
Unless you are at a higher level here at Hive like acidyo, libertycrypto27, melinda010100, achim03 and many others, it is very complicated for someone to simply comment on your posts. Unfortunately, busy life or just people's way of making posts, posts and more posts, I've already made incredible posts and basically just tip response bots.
Nowadays we still have threads, which force people to comment even more there and not on long posts and apparently there is a migration from long posts to short ones which are threads, as an example, I stopped creating posts with 1000 words in a single language, today I take as a standard the minimum of 500 and the maximum between 600 or 700. It is the limit between the "quality" they demand and the "attention" that readers want.
The world is flying, cell phones, AI, less interactions, everything more robotic, it's an issue that today I don't care much about, I just maintain the quality of my posts. I'm also not much of a commenter on long posts, but it's complicated to work here in real life and also help with the organization of the Brazilian HiveBR community, help the writers, manage the discord, focus on my posts, focus on the threads, think about events for moving the community, paying the editors, in short, a lot of things and little time available.
My humble tip is just keep doing your best, interact with whoever interacts with you, if you have time left, leave some comments on some people's long posts, I think this can help show them that they don't need to be "afraid" of interact with you or something.
I do admit that it is harder on HIVE to build followers because the community split when the HIVE fork happened. When I talk about the old days, the community was much larger with 10-15k active daily users so the hardfork had alot to do with it. I should have mentioned that in the post, ha.
I agree people have less time now compared to any other time and short-form content is the way forward. When writing content, I seem to finish around the 1000-1200 word mark and this is something i have been thinking about as well, maybe short 500-600 word posts would be better as you suggest.
I'll keep grinding away, most of the content from this account is for sharing information with investors but sometimes I write about other things. Thanks for leaving some feedback, it's good you know that im not going crazy and there are others that have noticed this problem as well. Im at the same point as well where i think its a lost case.
That's the spirit, don't get discouraged, because for one new person to join or stay on the hive is difficult, but for 10 to stop creating content today and disappear is very easy, so we have to stay strong!
Many curation profiles always comment on the post having at least 500 words, I believe that's the cut-off point for quality and for not looking like an easy job or farm, so that's why I mentioned it, you can test some more open posts in this format and see how the reception will be.
Anyway, I wish you and your project all the best! Everything will be fine in the end, I'm sure of it! 🙏🫂
Thats very true, we can lose people more easily than gain them.
Thanks for leaving some cool feedback and your best wishes. Have a great weekend 😎
I typically don't comment since I read it and don't have questions or concerns. I appreciate you putting out the reports. That said, I have no complaints if you want to shorten it for the sake of time.
Yea, i agree there is not alot of feedback people can leave on weekly reports because not much changes from week to week but in general theres just less interaction even when i put out posts seeking feedback, projects ideas and stuff.
Im keep grinding on, thanks for dropping your feedback.
Well, your time is worth something, so I don't think most people would blame you for condensing it.
You're welcome. Thanks for keeping us updated on what's changing. 🙂
Thanks man
I think it happened what it happens every time and everywhere, at some point: distractions. The more and the more often they are, the likelier to see fewer real comments, and even fewer conversations.
Pre hive-engine when we only had blogging was alot different than today and like you say, people have over things to keep them busy
Exactly. Not much to do back then on Hive except post and comment.
Maybe they're in inleo, or they're all on discord as usual.
I think all on Discord which is were i spend alot of time
Why read and comment on a blog post for the same amount of value as you get for a short thread. *Is why and what most people are thinking.
I guess people what short content.
This post is 3 times shorter than one I'd normally write and already has 4 times more comments than normal so I guess it works, lol.
People are lazy. They feel their upvote is enough..
Yeah, reading and commenting does not pay.
Fuck it, rip a bong and grind on!
be sure i read every single post, but my fault for not having enough time sometimes (or forgetting later) to put out an answer
but all the content is top notch
keep doing the great work
Thanks man, your one of the people that comment the most so no need. Maybe we should start upvoting comments to get more, lol
I think the platform just doesn't encourage comments, especially long threads of them. If I make a post I will get some upvotes. Comments are going to be seen by way less people, so way less potential upvotes. Comments on comments are most likely seen only be the person you're responding to.
Sometimes for me, the comments are the best part of the post but your right, there is no incentive to comment. Maybe we need to create some comment-curation bots, lol
I think we're waiting 😁.
I'm seeing fewer posts in my feed, too, I was thinking yesterday that I need to adjust my VP, I'm not using enough of it these days.
Some of it is to do with where we are in the cycle, some of it is to do with the world has not been great over the past four years and it doesn't look like it's getting any better. We're all tired and hanging on.
And then have you seen the June temperatures? We're not even getting any warmth and I see rain is forecast for every day next week.
On the other hand, I'm dead pleased that this week, for the first week for the best part of two years, I worked the (part-time) hours I'm supposed to do! The rest of the time I was sleeping, but I am so looking forward to having some time for Hive and the things I am interested in doing here.
I think the posts over the past few weeks have been great, I've enjoyed them, they keep me going 🙂.
Sometimes I check the trending posts and I'll notice that as I scroll down, the same posts will appear in the same order like it's on a 30-post loop are something. lol. I should have mentioned the community is only half the size from we hardforked from STEEM.
Great to hear you getting freed up in work. I'd need to start looking, ive been off 6-7 weeks and not even starting looking yet, lol.
Ah, I see, you've had some time :)
Yeah, it's the old story, capital goes to capital. It's gradually aggregating to smaller and smaller accounts. Unless we build in some interventions, like the SPI subscription savings plan, that will naturally occur.
Probably the incentive to spend more time making posts versus making comments has a large gap. Most people don't usually have the HP or initiative to tip comments for people that bother engaging and monetary incentive to socialize here plays a large role.
Maybe we should create some curation bot that curates comments only?
Not sure, AI generated comments can be done so it's tricky to automate the upvotes fully. Some good comments don't need lengthy remarks but a meme can tell a thousand words. Cost effective approach is just manually upvoting these.
You got lots of comments here.🤣
My guess is it is part burnout and part not to many new users.
Yes, i sure did. haha
Yeah, the grind does take it troll sometimes im sure your aware.
I've seen a few people complain about a lack of comments. They do have value. I was one of the most active commenters when I started and it helped me build a following. I still do it as I know people appreciate it. There are some great posts with music, comics and art that I follow which hardly get any comments and that will not encourage people to stick around, especially if they get more engagement on other platforms. It is not always just about the money. Obviously a lower price does not help.
Hive is fun for me, so I'm not going anywhere.
Of course posting about Hive tends to get more responses :)
I built up my following the same way at the start. I was very active with commenting but then again that was before everyone started to use Discord to chat.
Posting about HIVE or Splinterlands deffo increasing engagement. I always think about how popular would Reddit be if most of the content was Reddit related or how many people watch videos on youTube about youtube. lol
Im not going anywhere either, HIVE is perfect for sharing reports, lol