RE: Follow Friday: Don't vote for me!

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There was a bit of discussion on the HIVE discord about selfvote recently too that I was involved in.

I've always seen it as Self-voting is largely a community consensus rule, It's selfish and greedy but it's allowed by the chain.

My personal feelings on the matter is that self voting should be blocked at the very least on the front end level and that a VERY CLEAR message that selfvoting is not allowed be sent.

It's bad user experience to be able to do an action but be told to not do it because it's bad when you are still able to do it. Either block it completely or educate. Neither we seem to be doing.

I'd had thought blocking at that chain level, rejecting accounts that vote on posts they own would be best but one downside is this is bypassable by simply delegating or having the bulk of your HP on another account and upvoting.
This makes it more difficult to detect actual abuse in the latter setting which is likely why it's not really been implemented.

The frontend level is the next step, this will prevent and send a clear message to the vast majority of users (assuming all frontends implement it) that self voting isn't allowed but again your own frontend/bot/etc and you can freely selfvote.

With this scenario you don't really have a detection issue and you kinda naturally filter out a lot of the more innocent users who might not know any better. Giving a better user experience to normal users and those who want to abuse and go out of their way to do so will be easier to see imo.

It's a annoying messy subject that honestly the worst part of it all is the mixed messages and poor user experience it generates.

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As you say, it is impossible to block it totally. The front ends ought to discourage it anyway. I see big accounts doing it and they are less likely to get a vote from me.

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Hive Emergency: A Call to Action STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES

We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.

This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:

  • Implement a comment requirement for downvotes: This would ensure that users are aware of the reasons behind downvotes and can engage in informed discussions about the motivations behind these actions.
  • Reform our community to prioritize love and inclusivity: We must create a community where everyone can thrive, not just the chosen few. This can be achieved by promoting a culture of love, compassion, and respect.

We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.

We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.

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Hive Emergency: A Call to Action STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES

We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.

This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:

  • Implement a comment requirement for downvotes: This would ensure that users are aware of the reasons behind downvotes and can engage in informed discussions about the motivations behind these actions.
  • Reform our community to prioritize love and inclusivity: We must create a community where everyone can thrive, not just the chosen few. This can be achieved by promoting a culture of love, compassion, and respect.

We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.

We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.

Your decision to keep your actions under wraps is a clear sign of your desperation, and it's not going to work. You thought you could keep your scamming activities hidden, but the truth has finally come to light. It's time for you to face the consequences of your actions and seek help. Being online will not solve your problems; in fact, it will only exacerbate them. Those who encourage your behavior are just as culpable as you are, and it's essential that they take responsibility for their actions as well.

We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish

The Bilpcoin team were attacked by Themarkymark gang so, we started investigating and gathering evidence, and before long, we had a whole list of scammers and abusers. And let me tell you, it was a doozy

We are like the superheroes of Hive LOL night night Buildawhale scam farm

Merry Christmas, Hive community! We're excited to share some amazing Santa Claus art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI

As we approach the end of the year, the Bilpcoin team would like to extend their warmest wishes to everyone happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year

The Bilpcoin team is shifting its focus towards creating more in-depth content, aiming for less frequent but higher quality posts, potentially once or twice a day

We're ending the day with a bang - introducing two more crazy Santa designs: one happy drunk and one smoking

Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-sp2q9h

Don't let the enthusiasm of friends or family members cloud your judgment – crypto is a game where there will always be winners and losers

WE EXPOSED A SUPER FARM ON HIVE

Super farm https://peakd.com/@memesandstuff/wallet spam scam accounts

https://hive.blog/hive-121566/@louis88/re-slobberchops-sp4a2y

At Bilpcoin, we're passionate about what we do, and we're committed to helping our community thrive. If any tribes or individuals need assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out, and we'll do our best to help. We believe in the power of community

https://hive.blog/hive-140217/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sp87n1

themarkymark (80)in LeoFinance 18 hours ago You are the abuse on Hive hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-smp740 LOL TRANSACTIONS DON'T LIE PEOPLE DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO Curation reward for BUILDAWHALE COMMENT FARM buildawhale51.108 HP

When investing, we want to emphasize the importance of diversification. It's essential to spread your investments across different assets to minimize risk and maximize returns

https://hive.blog/@kevm/comments

https://hive.blog/@kcgm/comments

Earn BPC on all your posts! Simply add #Bilpcoin or #BPC to your post, and you'll be eligible to earn BPC. Just don't forget to post your own content and avoid self-voting.

https://hive.blog/hive-140217/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-spirke

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I also wish it could be blocked. It's all too easy to accidentally upvote yourself - especially when there are many replies in the thread.

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