Hopefully the UK won't get digital ID cards!
The UK Government is exploring the idea of introducing 'progressive' digital ID cards. This is being considered as a tool against illegal immigration, the plan would make it harder for people to work or reside in the country illegally. Naturally this is raising all the old debates about privacy versus state intrusion!
Is it proportionate to issue digital ID cards to over 70 million people to catch a handful of illegal workers? That's a massive logistics headache — one likely to cause more problems than it solves.
Arguments for...?
A system of digital IDs would streamline administrative routines, prevent fraud, and promote national security. Digital IDs would not be the solution to the root causes, though — such as if employers failed to check for existing paper documents or individuals came in through unauthorized channels.
In fact, the UK already has legislation in place that demands employers verify the right to work of an employee. If enforcement of these controls is not good, why would employers all of a sudden be better at ensuring electronic documentation? As Frost illustrates, simply making the system digital does nothing to eliminate the problem of non-compliance — it only adds layers of infrastructure.
The Slippery Slope of Surveillance
The problem with digital ID is that it makes it easier for the State to keep its citizens under surveillance than with mere paper IDs.... and it's easier to update and evolve digital IDs.
The Covid-19 pandemic gave a glimpse of what this future would hold. In lockdown, citizens were required to show digital proof of vaccination to be allowed into restaurants, cinemas, or even travel overseas. That was perhaps a temporary measure in exceptional circumstances, but it maybe set a precedent.
Potentially a more autocratic state might use digital ID data to restrict access to junk food, social media platforms, or public transportation — on grounds of public health, safety, or even climate policy.
Is it worth it for the convenience?
There is no doubt that digital IDs could make life easy in some respects. Imagine being able to access NHS records without hassle, proving your age online, or renewing your driver's licence with the simple click of a few buttons on your phone. Estonia and Denmark already use digital IDs very effectively for e-government services.
But where there is strong privacy protections and open governance, digital IDs are not so controversial. In the UK, with their constant data scandals and government lack of trust, public concern is well-justified.
A Question of Trust
In the end, the fight over digital IDs isn't about technology — it's about trust. Do we trust the government to keep our information from being exploited?
I mean maybe in the UK right now, but just look at the USA... would I have trusted Trump to NOT share our data with Musk for the sake of shafting the public sector and people he doesn't like, no I would not!
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The Brits have always resisted this, but then you need something like a driving licence or passport to identify yourself sometimes. Some people have neither. It is a matter of trust and the government needs to avoid getting too intrusive. They don't need to know everything we get up to, but our cars get tracked by cameras and facial recognition is being used more. There have to be limits. Don't ruin the freedom of many to deal with a troublesome few.
I'm certainly uncomfortable with the idea of a digital database!
Aren't they all digital? We're all on multiple systems
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We're halfway there with passports and driving licences. I renewed my licence the other day with a few clicks. When I was at the hospital recently they knew which unrelated blood tests I'd had and the results (although annoyingly they never know what medication you are taking and you have to go through the litany every time). A large amount of health information is shared, apparently anonymised. Road tax and MOT information is all available, plus CCTV everywhere. Private investigators (and the police) can track your whereabouts through your mobile phone and ATM usage. The only good thing is it is not co-ordinated.
I think we are one of the most surveilled nations on earth, right?
And then some. The only saving grace is our wonderful bureaucracy prevents optimisation!
Well, I got them romanian ID cards, there is no issue, we just use them same way you use the driving license here.
I'm surprised they're promoting this as surveillance without racism rather than for convenience. Negative vibes!
What was the Frost thing you mentioned about?
While the convenience of digital IDs is appealing, people must carefully consider the implications for privacy and state surveillance. The ease with which governments can monitor citizens through digital means raises valid concerns about civil liberties.
It's a disgusting and sneaky move that's being done in false attempt to curtail illegal immigration and appease the electorate.
I really hope people see through this scam.
Most people hold a passport or DL so just give people who don't hold either the option of a digital ID card. Easy.
Yet another draconian move by an elected government.
Totally agree, we are fast becoming a police state. It was tony( convicted sexual predator, baby killer and father of isis) blair who first wanted to introduce these. He was told to fuck off as well.
For better or worse, here we are
It almost feels like these things will come no matter what. Also digital Euro is planned for years now and it seems just a matter of time.
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