The Other Side of the Trade .:. Walk & Talk Series

avatar

It has past a bit more than a month since my last Walk & Talk video and here I am again, on a walk!!! It is winter time, it's not that pleasant to go for a walk, and it is a race with daylight as nights are getting longer and longer... As you can see by the thumbnail photo, when I finished my walk, it was already night... Luckily, I recorded this video just before the sunset! It was spontaneous, and as many of you liked that post about DeFi and concentrated liquidity pools, I have decided to share a bit more about my approach to these things...


The Other Side of the trade.jpg
Created in Canva.com

None of this is financial advice... It's just my personal story and my approach to DeFi...

Now that we have cleared that, we can go to the meat and potatoes of the story... But, to understand my point of view, I would like to go back to the mistake that I made a few days ago... It was December, 4th... Bitcoin was trading under 100K and it was tried twice to break that level, but without success... For some reason, I got a reward of $30 on the MexC exchange, but the requirement to get it was to trade FUTURES until a certain date... As it was a gift, I had a genius idea to SHORT Bitcoin, or in simple vocabulary, to bet that it will NOT go over 100K! I opened trade with 15X leverage (HUGE! Don't do that!), and "invested" $15... As a good gambler, when the price began to move up, closer to 100K, I added another SHORT of $15... 😃 Playing leverage is like playing with fire, and if you go over 10X, you can burn fast...

Long story short, my liquidation price was at 103K and BTC hit 104.7K (that is still counting as the ATH!), which means that I lost "my" (not mine) $30! After less than 24 hours, Bitcoin had a huge dump under 91K, while my "imaginary" taking profit price was around 93K! So, if I had traded with 10X leverage, I would probably profited from this trade, but like this, I lost the "investment"...


Liotes Divider Blue.png

To be honest, it didn't hurt too much as it wasn't actually my money, but "being right", but still losing sucks... I mentioned many times that I suck as a trader and that's why I don't usually trade at all... Especially NOT with leverage... I'm more for long-term investing, and feeding my adrenaline by playing with liquidity pools! Why do I think that LPs are better than leverage trading? For one simple reason, it's very hard to get "liquidated" with liquidity providing! The truth is that you can't earn some crazy amounts, but you can't lose big amounts either...

In the example that I described with my BTC trade, I got liquidated by shorting BTC, but if I was LONGING it, I would be probably liquidated too when that huge red candle happened! On the other side, if I have provided liquidity for the BTC:USD pair in the concentrated liquidity pool (leveraged LP-ing), my position would go OUT of the range for a short period of time (when the price went too much up, and after that, when it went down), but in the end, it would come back into the range! I would lose money, and I would probably earn juicy fees as volatility was huge and the trading volume too!


Liotes Divider Blue.png

Find more details about the whole mindset behind it, and how it works (or not) in the video under...

Check out the short video and share your strategy for liquidity pools!



Thank you for your time,

--ph--


Liotes Divider Blue.png

👉 Vote for Liotes HIVE Witness HERE 👈

Don't forget to follow, reblog, and browse my Hivepage to stay connected with all the great stuff!

You can also find me on Ecency .:. Twitter

hive-167922 defi liquiditypools vlogging blogging crypto hive-engine proofofbrain pimp bbh ecency
0
0
0.000
27 comments
avatar

Got a glimps years ago .. that shorting, longing, leveraging...is not for me.
Tested with bybit, similar like you with some silly money.
I do only spot trading.Patiently with few emotions involved.
Zero loss..nada, zilch..numbers only get bigger and bigger. :)

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

I blame those Youtubers who are shilling exchanges, taking money from referral links, and luring people to do leverage... 😃 But, in this case, I knew what I was doing, and it wasn't my money... so, I was cool with it...

And, btw, I agree with you... If you want to accumulate some tokens, and you do spot orders, you can't go wrong with it... If it goes too much up, you sell part of it... if it goes down, great... if not, even greater... 😃

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Trading with leverage is kinda playing gamble mate :)

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

In this case, I agree... It was... As I knew that those $30 would not stay for me and they would take it away in less than 48 hours, I had to spin the wheel... Black or red... I missed it... 😃

But, with some moderate leverage (under 5), it is more than just a gamble...

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Every mistake that we made is a lesson to be learned, still a win in my book!

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Exactly! And if I pay for lessons cheaply, it's a discount! 😂
This was a very valuable lesson, and it was for FREE! 🙂

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Oh well that was not much different than a sport bet, it could have gone either way, you can't really predict short term... On long term it was likely to break 100k with trump win, but short term meh

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

You are right, and it went in BOTH ways... 😂 So, it was even worse than betting 🤣

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

We get pretty daring when it's not are money, haha. Sure it would have been nice to roll it into more and make it our own. Better to lose it if it's not from our pocket. I have thought about futures but haven't tried, maybe with a free voucher I dream high as well 😆

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Hahahaha... It's different when it's your money, and when you HAVE TO spend it... I wouldn't do that with my money, and especially not some big amounts...

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

is there a way to see history or something on beeswap :D i even forget that i had 2 small pools there like 50$ in SPS-hive and 30$ PKM-SPS. i must say i have no idea how much did i even put in that maybe 2 years ago :)

also have 50$ on Cacao-Leo pool, wanted to test it out when it came out.

Never got into shorting, leveraging. i kinda understand the process behind it, but feels like full gambling.

Korean hive pumps are fun to trade until they are not. But i only have 300 Hive liquid on binance so trading to make more hive it is.

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

is there a way to see history or something on beeswap :D i even forget that i had 2 small pools there like 50$ in SPS-hive and 30$ PKM-SPS. i must say i have no idea how much did i even put in that maybe 2 years ago :)

There aren't too much of (easily readable) details about the ins and outs of Dieselpools... I mean, everything is somewhere in the blockchain, but nobody "presented" it to noobs... :)

Korean hive pumps are fun to trade until they are not. But i only have 300 Hive liquid on binance so trading to make more hive it is.

Yeah, because of that, I don't move too much HIVE in those pumps and dumps... Don't want to stay OUT of the game with larger sums... I try to not mix my long-term HODL, with this "playable" chunk... 😃

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Leverage is a double edged sword and I agree that it is dangerous. I don't like to use it too often because being liquidated is not a great feeling. It's good when it goes your way, but I think proper risk management is better in the long run.

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Proper risk management is a MUST! That's the only way you can live from trading... Without it, it's just gambling... Like what I did in this example... 😂

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Honestly futures is an area I have refused to look at because of the attendant risks.
Sorry for your loss!

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

It's very risky...

Sorry for your loss!

In a nutshell, it wasn't my money, so I'm okay with it... I mean, it would be great if it went in my direction, but I'm not stressing about it at all... ;)

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

I think there's nothing to be sorry about your "investment strategy". With the way things were going I don't think anyone could have predicted that BTC will hit 100k when it did. Although you could do with hitting that win and do some marvelous stuffs for your "investor's confidence" I think you'll find more chances and opportunity to play the risk and rewards game lool

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Although you could do with hitting that win and do some marvelous stuffs for your "investor's confidence"

If I got that trade well, maybe it would lure me more into trading and I would lose much more... So, it's better like this... A confirmation from above to not go back into trading... 😂

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Hahaha a confirmation indeed. You never can tell, maybe this was just one bad trade gone wrongly, but I know it's better to be safe than sorry

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Nice post! Always very educational!
I was buying and selling between Hive and HBD recently also. Personally, still not a fan of liquidity pools because I prefer stuff that is simpler and more straightforward, i.e. buy and hold.
!LUV

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

Buy and hold is just fine... I'm doing that a lot...

On the other side, I suppose I'm sometimes bored and trying to find something more "amusing"... 😃 Trading is too intense and stressing, and LP-ing is not that time-consuming, and it fits better for me...

0
0
0.000
Reply
avatar

I have been in the market for eight years and have never traded futures, always sport trade and benefited from it.

0
0
0.000
Reply