RE: Hive dying and soon stalling?
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I don't think Hive is dying. People are still building, and people are still posting. A part of Hive does seem to be dying, though...
The profitability.
For people like me, who just come here to have a social media space that's free from the overlord's algorithms, Hive is better than ever.
For people coming here thinking they can make a living just doing social media posts, Hive is worse than ever.
Personally, I think that's for the best. There isn't one creator on Hive, and there are less than a handful on the internet, who deserve a livable income for what they post. Most people who earn well on the internet do so because of who they know, not because their content is valuable. This is true not just on Hive, but everywhere.
It looks to me like it's even true for you.
I see $.30 worth of rewards on this post already, and if we're being honest, this is a post that has no value at all. You're simply adding your opinion to an already very large pile of similar opinions. What objective value does that have? I don't mean that as any kind of insult, but rather to point out that the value of anything we do here is largely subjective.
There are hundreds of people here who are more passionate about the idea than the token price. Maybe the people running nodes now will do it altruistically, maybe not. I think there is a pretty good chance that if the whales all withdraw tomorrow, someone is going to take their place. There are already dozens of people running low-ranked witnesses for no reward.
I've seen a LOT of people on Hive claiming that Hive is dying, not because it's actually dying, but because they think they aren't getting rewarded enough. I'll happily agree that the whales get rewards that they don't earn or deserve, but that means that whales should be rewarded less, NOT that everyone else should also get rewards they don't deserve.
Of course, the whales aren't going to reward themselves less. If the people complaining about it became whales tomorrow, they wouldn't reward themselves less either. This isn't a problem with Hive, it's a problem with people. We constantly sort ourselves into systems with a few elites at the top, some castaways at the bottom, and the vast majority of people somewhere in between just trying to live their life without getting too drawn in to the problems at the top or the bottom.
It looked to me like that exact same sorting pattern was repeating on Blurt. It'll happen to the next spin-off as well. This isn't a problem people can code their way out of, moving out of this behavior is going to require people to evolve.
Hell, if Hive gets that close to death, I'll probably set up a node myself.
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
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DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
Posh Proof Of Scam On Hive 😂
DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
Buildawhale buildafarm buildabully 😂😂😂
Actions speak louder than words ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾😂🤣
Great point, and I aggree. We need a few things which are either possible or not. Whale resistance in some way. I know Hive is designed in a way that HP is king everywhere, but there should be some other metric when weigths are calculated. It is not the best solution to have some whale decide who may not even know what are they doing while smart people here don't really have a say because of small stakes.
The same is true for visibility of posts. If you already have a big follower base you can post almost anything, there will be upvotes. While quality content dies on the sidelines because nobody sees it. So we need more tools and better mechanisms and places where these posts can appear.
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
Posh Proof Of Scam On Hive 😂
DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
Buildawhale buildafarm buildabully 😂😂😂
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Thank you, very well put, I always call it "same as it ever was", and you've put a complimentary spin on it.
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
Posh Proof Of Scam On Hive 😂
DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
Buildawhale buildafarm buildabully 😂😂😂
Actions speak louder than words ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾😂🤣
So Hive is not dying but it is dying because no profitability, which you need to have node run economically?
I agree. But the point is about the witness nodes.
So you see the real problem. But just prefer putting up a strawman?
Luckily you don't decide what is valuable and what not. Also you are still stuck in the "objective" value fallacy of keynianism. Value is subjective. It always have been. Read some into austrian economics. Mises, Hayek,.. many more.
So you also don't like your own comment earning nearly also the of you addressed 0,3$ and should have declined payout. Or why are you adding your opinion on a social media network, which is just the same as many other's similar opinions?
And so you are now projecting this onto me?
You know since how long I am here. You also know about my POV on these topics and people whining about being 'censored' and not earning enough.
This is not the point of this post.
It is about economics.
Please reply to the post about if Hive running uneconomic nodes will survive the next economic crash, let alone civilizational crash (where we are heading) let alone to the next bullrun with uneconomic nodes run altruistically by the people who greedily destroyed the incentives in the first place and not to your projections on me.
If you can't do that, please don't reply at all.
Especially now in times, where not only GPU, RAM, SSD, but now also HDD prices are rising like crazy due to AI.
You can wish for altruistic uneconomic nodes, but I would not understand why. Nodes also don't provide value in your view? Shouldn't they earn and be rewarded? Shouldn't the incentives just work? Do you want socialism on Hive?
Please think about the topic of the post and don't project, otherwise you won't get an answer on your next aggressive comment.
I am also downvoting your comment because of that. And have reasoned why enough in this text here.
*Edit:
He gets it:
https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@beggars/ta6d7v
And against people like mentioned here, you are hating:
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@deeanndmathews/re-woelfchen-2026216t135424430z
Because they feed their families with the help of Hive.
Maybe read it and the arguments in it at think about it.
Luckily she was more stake than you and you don't decide what has value and what not, but I already explained that and your fallacy.
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
Posh Proof Of Scam On Hive 😂
DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
Buildawhale buildafarm buildabully 😂😂😂
Actions speak louder than words ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾😂🤣
His main account @oldsoulnewb 😂
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
Posh Proof Of Scam On Hive 😂
DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
Buildawhale buildafarm buildabully 😂😂😂
Actions speak louder than words ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾😂🤣
I'm not sure if you deliberately missed my point, or if it just went over your head, but this reply really reinforced the point I was trying to make.
No, you obviously completely missed the point of the entire post.
And then also the extra comment, as it appears.
So not really worth it to put in even more effort and try making you understand any more.
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
Posh Proof Of Scam On Hive 😂
DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
Buildawhale buildafarm buildabully 😂😂😂
Actions speak louder than words ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾😂🤣
Thank you for exposing yourself even more you weirdo 😂.
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m
To all the downvoters when you stop downvoting me and now you have to bring my rep back because acidyo decided to take it away with the help of @blocktrades and other people who are following acidyos downvotes
Posh Proof Of Scam On Hive 😂
DHF Dirty Hive Fund 😂
Buildawhale buildafarm buildabully 😂😂😂
Actions speak louder than words ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾😂🤣