Deadly Deception | A 1994 lecture by Dr. Robert Willner
In preparation for the release of an important corona-related conversation from German language space, I felt it important to go over additional sources of this "controversial" non-mainstream idea:
We can repeat our indoctrination programs like loyal slaves, we can throw dirt at those who ask the questions the mainstream would rather nobody asked.
But as long as these points are not answered to my satisfaction I will keep reminding everyone that these matters are NOT settled. The mainstream will have you believe that the science around the virus narrative and germ-theory IS settled - I am telling you right here right now, it is NOT settled!
Anyone who tries to make it seem that way - to convince you that pathogenic viruses are REAL - is either himself a member of the contagion cult and too proud to even consider he might have been unknowingly indoctrinated; too stupid to connect the dots... OR he is actively deceiving and socially engineering you.
Most people sadly fall under the former "gullible" category.
Most people just believe this virus narrative and seem to absolutely hate when others come along pointing out that society at large might be barking up the wrong tree entirely. It's inconvenient to the "progressive" image of "modernity" and "science" - to suggest that all of it may be mumbo-jumbo, voodoo and dark ages anti-science.
So, how can we get out of cult-like structures?
We dig and listen. We use our own discernment. We listen to ideas that feel uncomfortable. We read between the lines, we feel for integrity in those we listen to, we don't only pay attention to the words that are said.
So here is one of those gems you have never heard of:
Dr. Robert Willner publicly dissecting and denouncing the fearmongering related to viruses and contagion, present in the media, and society at large - more than 30 years ago. He may not have the full picture but Willner's take can greatly help us piece the deception story together.
https://blurt.media/w/gA6mDSrpiLZ5M25N4QbZBH
Since @Blurt.media is actively censored on hive and its videos are also not embeddable on here, you may use a youtube link for as long as Willner's lecture is still under the radar. These links always disappear sooner or later.
Understanding the logical flaws in the virus narrative and in contagion theory is essential!
I explicitly withdraw any assumed consent on my part from anyone acting on the basis of viruses being real. It is "modern voodoo" and the damage to society is immense.
The existence of disease causing viruses is a pseudoscientific and refuted theory, and those who - despite all the evidence to the contrary - keep propagating that false and cult-like fundamentalism are at best ignorant and at worst complicit in facilitating mass murder on Earth, every day, through all the damage human beings incur from trusting pseudoscientific treatments clothed in the mantle of mainstream academic prestige.
If you are willing to inject yourself with god-knows-what I can only hope you listen when I say: Wait a minute, there is something you may have overlooked!
When those who claim to have power over other human beings come around next time, pushing and propagating the contagion lie on a grand scale like in 2020 - the virus deception, and the infection pandemic narrative - we have to be ready.
By the time covid 2.0 is orchestrated it will be too late to start digging. So DO IT NOW. Use the time wisely while you have the opportunity.
Use your discernment! Don't believe me, don't believe anyone. Use your brain! Your intuition.
Saving this lecture on Blurt.media and telling you about it here is my humble invitation to question the king's narrative, while his forces are not immediately amassed in your front yard. They will however come back, mark my words!
As I hinted at, more information about the topic will follow soon.
What you do with this information is and will always be up to you.
It would be good to start uploading these types of vids on Blurt.Media.
I have a hard drive filled with this stuffs since 2020 and i may start doing that myself.
Since there are loads of peertubes out there i've been kinda exporting my youtube uploads onto other people's peertubes for the sake of posterity. At this current point in time blurt.media doesn't allow for 3speak/hive imports...
But youtube's gate keeping protocols are a bit lax these days...so i've been uploading a fuck ton of Agenda 2030, End of Covid, Space Busters, Amandha Vollmer type vids onto my youtube...which gets uploaded also on the other people's peertube instances...check this out...
https://peertube.wtf/c/bravesmoke/videos?s=1
See where i'm goin with this?
yeah!
I have not thought deeply about the elaborate mirroring plan, for now I'd just be happy to save some gems on blurt.media so they don't become unavailable.
But i should look into it more. the whole peertube thing and so on.
You're missing out man.
Quick time set yourself up on the above peertube instance and link your youtube channel there...and then spend the entire day banging out truth video uploads. Thats what im doing today, gonna clear my hdd.
This post, especially when shared with that video, makes it look like you've just gone from one absurd narrative to the other.
I would be curious to know what proof you have that viruses do not cause illness, and why it has made you disregard the hundreds of thousands of studies that prove they do. This video does not do that.
Well, thanks for your feedback.
It would only look absurd to those fully programmed with the contemporary, trendy worldview - people who have a ton of unrecognized pseudoscientific assumptions and confusing that with provable facts or the scientific method itself.
What is absurd to me is when someone repeats the same old tired logic of the evidence is somehow buried or implied in the sheer volume of studies out there!
The assumption is: They can't ALL be wrong! Of course they can be. Since when is the majority right by definition? I find it more likely all people taking part in those "studies" have the same worldview baggage you seem to, because it is part of our culture. And of official education.
You ask me for "proof that viruses do not cause illness" which is sort of like asking for proof that Santa does NOT bring gifts through the chimney.
I cannot prove he doesn't, I can only point out the lack of proof for Santa himself.
If you choose to believe in his existence because some neighbors claim they have heard him - that is fine, but don't make it seem like you are on logical high ground here solely because you have the backing of an indoctrinated and hypnotized society and I do not ;)
What I am criticizing in my post is the absence of PROOF that pathogenic viruses exist at all. I have not seen any convincing evidence for it and have instead heard very good cases against that notion. The jury is still out - you know, the way science should work!
What I instead get all the time is a vague reference to the majority stance on any topic, rather than concrete evidence. This is science, not politics. And majorities do not mean anything when this is about evidence not about fads or popular opinions.
I am saying, the evidence for your assumptions is missing and has never been delivered but rather assumed. So it is on the virus believers to show pathogenic viruses do exist, and not on me to show they don't.
I am not talking about "studies", you can study all sorts of fictional ideas and relationships all day long, and academia often does.
Maybe we differ in that I share my best estimation of a subject after diving in and thinking long and thorough about what I found. You on the other hand refer to a consensus of experts, implying to me that your worldview is not based on immediate experience and your own discernment but rather on the outsourcing of your interpretations to people and vested interests you have never met or talked to.
If you feel comfortable believing the priests rather than reading the holy book yourself that is fine. I do not.
If you are truly curious about the whole story of this most enormous pseudoscientific blunder, that dub will be released in the near future. This 1994 lecture by Willner is only a tiny puzzle piece of the story and will not substitute for using your own mind and discernment.
Sorry for the mouthful
@paradigmprospect i got your back
@paradoxtma this one's for you...you may not like what you're about to see...but here it is...
https://odysee.com/@halloftruth:c/irish-government-admits-no-proof-that-sars-cov-2-exists-gemma-o'doherty:1
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/A-Farewell-To-Virology:02
https://odysee.com/@ivikthor:c/p1bkp55x78aK:2
MOTHAFOCKIN BANG
we all thought this was settled. finding out that it isn't comes as a shock for any of us having grown up in the west.
needless to say that if pathogenic viruses do not exist, then all the stories about an alleged lab leak in china are complete fabrications, meant to retain control of the narrative.
thanks for sharing all those resources brother!
I will tell the world now as a Chinaman...
the lab leak shit is all false.
Bro if all countries and heads of these countries (all puppets fuck them) have signed the Antartica Treatise amongst each other...then it makes sense that every Crisis that has ever happened in society is fabricated and meant for another purpose....and the hoax of virology is no different.
All our ancient forefathers in their medical works, either the ancient Indian Sages, or the Traditional Chinese Medicine, right to pre-han Dynasty Daoist internal arts of alchemical healing, all know that it's not the external that causes illnesses. That's why their arts have all been attacked in modern history.
But they can't stop the truth.
agreed. finding out about the antarctic treaty holding steady even during the so-called cold war was such a massive red flag.
thanks for sharing your take brother. nothing is what we have been told ahahaha.
not sure we can ever piece it all together but this virus idea will lead to utter dystopia if left unchecked
It's unstoppable now...this narrative. It was built, refined and proliferated too deeply into society way before our time...and it will continue way after our time. That's the main mechanicsm of control for the coming new world.
I just hope those who can wake up will wake up soon.
well said
Lack of evidence isn't evidence of lack.
Just because someone is lying doesn't mean what they're not saying is true.
If two evil people are fighting, which one is the good guy?
That's the assumption you're making, that since lying profiteers aren't telling you the truth about viral disease, then there must not be pathogenic virii. That is not a logical conclusion.
Don't be sorry, stand for the truth fuck them
You're not standing for truth, you're simply supporting contrarians that you arbitrarily agree with.
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I'm not talking about anything vague.
We have imaged viruses. We have seen how they work. We have grown them, and infectious bacteria, in cultures. We've seen their interactions with other cells.
And when I say we, I mean me, personally, with my own eyes and equipment.
I do not trust studies and papers just because they're from 'scientists'. I replicate experiments.
Is it fair to assume you do not have the same hands on experience?
That is correct, I do not have firsthand experimental experience, nor am I a chemist or microbiologist. I am a curious inquirer with no prior stake in the matter one way or another. This goes for most topics, I am autodidact in most things which has helped me retain an open and inquiring mind.
What I do is to sort through the alleged narrative everybody believes by learning about it and its alleged explanations, and compare it to what the critics say who have pointed out the flaws in the story. If I come across a lecture or work that sums the criticism up well I will do my best to dub it as accurately as I can and put it out there for people to consider.
If you have access to a laboratory and can do experiments yourself I would love to ask you specifically about some things when the dub releases that I am working on. Provided you are willing of course.
Thanks!
I don't currently have access, but could probably quickly remedy that, depending on the experiments you wish to perform. There are people I could reach out to, if you're looking for something beyond my capabilities.
If you're near a university, it couldn't hurt to post something on a bulletin board near the science wing. There are usually at least a handful of students like me, who prefer doing experiments for themselves. Any one of them would have more time to discuss such things, and better lab access than I currently have.
You could probably find students who would run your experiments just to fulfill their lab requirements.
thanks a ton for that offer and suggestion. i will get back to you when that dub releases. looking forward to be proven wrong so i can let all of this go ;)
it's not the first time in my life i wish I had taken a deeper interest in chemistry sooner. that spark came way later in my life.
I have to point out that you're not acknowledging the opportunistic nature of living things if you completely deny that pathogens exist in every form that can be pathogenic. Do take care to be aware of your biases. It isn't necessary to believe the polio virus was the sole cause of symptoms of polio to grant that there is a pathogen that causes those symptoms. The fact that DDT causes those symptoms doesn't mean some, or several, pathogens don't. There are various causes of AIDS that have been proven since the 19th Century, malnutrition, foreign DNA in our blood, certain chemicals, like vinyl nitrite, vaccines, and etc, but that neither proves nor disproves some virus from Green Monkeys does or doesn't cause AIDS too.
The base condition is nescience. Learning that Bob steals money and becoming secure from Bob's larcenous actions doesn't make your money safe, because you don't know that no one else steals money. We need to acknowledge we cannot be sure we know all possible mechanisms of action regarding anything, and that certainly includes virii. The basic premise of pathogenic virii is sound, and it is consilient with living systems. That should give us pause before we dismiss the entire concept of pathogenic virii out of hand.
IMHO, doing so is contrary to observed natural mechanisms. Were there no pathogenic virii, that would be inconsistent with what we observe living things do at every scale, from banks stealing from us by fraud, to anemones eating plankton. Note that nothing I've said is support for any particular claim of viral disease. I have given specific examples where false claims confound the theory of pathogenic virii, that neither is that confounding evidence that virii don't cause disease.
I appreciate good information, and I'll watch Dr. Willner's presentation with that mindset. I hope you take this comment the same way, so you are not deceived and lulled into a false sense of security regarding real risks. BTW, not until just now did I realize that this video had anything to do with AIDS, so my above remarks were prior to that realization.
I have heard about half of his presentation, and find some strong disagreement with some of his statements, which I consider irrational. He presumes that because he has knowledge of some causes of AIDS, no other causes can exist, and this - however much he believes it to be true - isn't demonstrable.
Thanks!
i always welcome you keeping me on my toes and i expect nothing less from someone devoted to truthseeking and kindness.
poisons do exist. things that kill living cells do exist, like alcohol, antibiotics or even other predatory observable living organisms like parasites. i saw some myself. i know they are real.
the claim however that there are invisible things entering our body to reprogram our cells and turn our own body against itself... is nothing but an unproven assumption to me at this point, meaning until i see evidence that convinces me otherwise.
i will always be open, much like with the shape of the earth or any other '"controversial" topic - i have no preference and do not care one way or another. i just want to hear the best evidence for and against - and the evidence FOR the existence of pathogenic viruses is about as flimsy as for other topics everybody deems super certain. which simply should not be the case if this topic was indeed as certain as everybody makes it out to be.
i have no hesitation changing my mind, and i do not fear being wrong, i welcome it. the faster i can hear that point noone mentioned to me before - the point that proves it beyond doubt - the faster i can go back doing other things.
which is why i value having aware people around me that can point out what they see, to me - like you often do.
but apart from the religious invoking of scientific consensus, pointing to cgi generated graphics of "the covid virus" or dodgy comparisons of the theoretical virus model with real, physical and observable predators in a forest that hunt for prey i have heard a better case against it than for it.
that may yet change though, however the likelihood for that happening is dropping every day.
what i do care about is not giving a theory this default legitimacy just because we grew up believing it. it assumes there is this mountain of supporting evidence which when i look into it is not only wrong, but i find the opposite is the case.
not sure i can ever know for sure but considering what i have seen and weighed, the evidence for the existence of microviological dna altering microorganisms that travel freely between hosts to turn their own bodies against themselves... is nowhere near convincing at this point.
i sometimes hope i can be convinced otherwise because it would have some far reaching implications. that said the covid times have not made the virus case any stronger and i have been living without the fear of invisible infection agents that want to invade and attack me - for more than a decade now, with great satisfaction.
my gratitude to you for sharing your thoughts with me
In fact everything is a poison - at the right dose. Too much water kills people by causing hydrolysis. Too much O2 causes people to spontaneously combust.
My point about consilience suggesting that viruses do exist should be carefully considered. I once spoke to Carlos Santana on social media. I pointed out that life was an act of war. Every blade of grass is locked in a fight to the death with every other blade of grass for nutrients, light, water, and space, even blades of grass on the same plant. Every living thing feeds either on the living or the dead. After ~4B years of opportunities being taken advantage of every possible mechanism that could exist has arisen, and that includes snippets of genetic code that cause themselves to be replicated by organisms, which is all virii are. Carlos pointed out that of all living things, only we can make peace, and he reckoned that's why we are here. Changed my life.
Were there no such things as virii, CRISPR would not exist, because CRISPR is a mechanism taken from bacteria that cuts such genetic code out of their DNA. The preponderance of circumstantial evidence, such as the existence of thousands of different CRISPR mechansims in a wide variety of bacteria, strongly suggests that viruses are an actual thing. This isn't a comment about HIV or SARS2 virii in particular, and some fraud or another being perpetrated is not everything in that field being proved a fraud. Lots of people are perfectly happy with their banks, despite we know that banks commit frauds all the time, and I won't even use them.
I am glad you keep an open mind. That is how to become right when we are wrong, and like you I share that desire to be proved wrong, because if I'm wrong I want very much to find out so I can stop being wrong. The majority of claims that viruses don't exist say that they've never been isolated in the lab, or been proven to replicate, etc. These are problematic with parasitic mechanisms as small as viruses to achieve, and our incompetence to provide such evidence doesn't mean that such things don't exist.
I am not betting my life that viruses exist, but I strongly suspect they do, because such a parasitic mechanism has to have arisen after ~4B years of genetic stews globerating in slimy potholes. Biology is just that complex. I'm more certain fraud exists, because I have seen that pack my fudge. When I got Chicken Pox, or the Mumps, all I know is that I was sick, and I couldn't see the little buggers causing me misery, unlike evil banks.
your take is just so immensely valuable always. i am really happy when this topic is done with, as i may have taken on too much workload here.
anything for humanity's ability to dissect ideas and discern right?
i see the logic in your argument however i do not have that luxury any longer, the luxury of the supporting narratives. they all go hand in hand, and they often need each other.
concretely i am saying i am no longer convinced that earth is actually 4 billion years old, nor that it formed the way we are told nor that it is what we are told it is. it COULD be, sure but that does not negate all the counter arguments i have had to consider on THAT topic alone.
i like analogies and your example. let me misuse it ahaha.
just because the thing looks like a bank from the outside and everybody tells me "oh yes that is definitely a bank in that building and has been here forever" doesn't make it so. especially after i found out by others that the whole district has been founded by japanese monks and that most of the building are not brick and mortar all the way but merely have brick facades.
not sure that analogy is so helpful ahahahhaa.
i am not convinced that humanity arose from monkeys, that cross-kind darwinian evolution takes place at all or that this place is as old as they say it is. could list many other things i have open questions about but that will not help this topic in question here so restrain myself.
what i am saying is i cannot refer to these external circumstances like you do because to me they have ceased to be certain and solid ground. they have instead become unlikely.
i do however see that this topic of viruses is particularly difficult because it is so hard to verify this for ourselves. but this is often a hint. many of these things i question are somehow removed from immediate scrutiny which should raise an eyebrow.
it doesnt make them wrong by definition, and viruses can definitely exist!
but until factual evidence for their existence is presented and not simply assumed, we cannot pretend that their existence is the most likely explanation for disease, epidemics and ill health. if we do we are not being neutral but would instead be thinking inside the box we are trying to leave to get a better view.
more on this will follow when i get that dub released. this willner lecture does not cover enough of the issues with the virus narrative to convince anyone. it's just a tiny voice in a much larger discussion.
as always thanks for your attention. may we all be wrong and find that out as quickly as possible so we can get back to other things, ahahaha
blessings