Could I be saying this any different?
It seems lately, there's so many good voices warning against the dangers of being excessively agreeable, there really is no excuse for it anymore. All the disease, misfortune and plain unpleasant situations it creates, and yet, in spite of it all, I find myself slipping back into old habits. I'm a bit too nice when I don't catch myself in time.
Of course, it doesn't help that we (especially women) live in a world that tells you to victimize yourself instead of asking - where could I have set better boundaries? How could I have expressed myself more correctly?

You remember Miro, don't you? I didn't go looking for him in Vienna, but here he was, just squirreled away.
I found myself in a situation recently where I kept coming up against a wall. I seem to attract persistent people, which is in itself a question worth exploring, but I kept waking up in interactions with someone who simply wouldn't understand what I'd said or that I meant to stick by my decision.
Naturally, at first I thought what a cunt. What a creep.
But then, I caught myself. That self-victimizing I'm wary of. I thought wait a second. While this person is being somewhat insistent, I am not a straw figure in a funny hat. And if this situation persists, how am I contributing to it?
After all, we're all designed in such a way as to try to game the system, tilt the table in our favor. Mostly, we do it in small, innocent ways, as was the case (more or less) in this situation also. Still, it nagged, and so I started going back through the way I've been conducting myself in that particular interaction, trying to get a better understanding of the how and why this person wouldn't hear me.
Was it some kind of personal mania of his, or was I failing to communicate my own boundaries and rhythm? The thing is, none of us want to fail. Ever. So we tend to ignore these little ways in which we sabotage ourselves and blame it on the other guy, which naturally means we take a lot longer in learning things. It's no good. Time here is already so worryingly finite.
I realized, to my surprise, that while I believed (genuinely) I was just being nice and honest, I also wasn't making my feelings or attitude clear. See, I say things a certain way, and presume to know what each word is supposed to mean, how it's meant to be interpreted. Though on closer inspection, I had to admit my words could easily be read back-to-front. They'd carry a completely different meaning, but remain at the end of the day intelligible.
The next thing I did was wonder why I was refusing to put my foot down more firmly. A compulsive need to be perceived as 'nice'? The humane, all-encompassing need to be liked? Did I perhaps invite this person's insistence? We don't like to think of it in such ways, especially now, yet we often do just that. The scary truth is, we teach strangers so much about how they can behave around us, and then those strangers become our friends, lovers, companions, and take on certain mannerisms that we one day wake up and realize we abhor. Well, how did that happen.
Some people waste entire lifetimes in situations, wishing the other person would wake up and start treating them better. Wondering why. It almost never crosses their mind that their own behavior might be at fault here, at least in part.
In my case, it became clear pretty quickly that just because I'm told women should beat about the bush, I have no reason to do so. That a desire to be liked or perceived a certain way is not necessarily a positive attribute, especially if it's putting me in an unpleasant situation. And also, that if I insist on not stating my own limits and desires, then I'm not really in any position to complain when they are ignored. We often do. Complain. When people behave how they think is right, not how we think is right. Except, how are others expected to know?
I started thinking how can I be saying this different, more clearly, in a way where 'no' can't be misinterpreted as 'yes'?
It's funny, in recent years, I've read so much about the perils of toxic niceness. I think I know. And yet, I'm engineered not to know, to compulsively forget attitudes and mentalities that are in fact good for me. See, I try to keep up with the way my mind works, but it's not always easy. Instinctually, I deceive myself. Run circles around myself. Bullshit myself. As a great teacher once said, you can never lie to yourself, you can only bullshit yourself.
That's an important distinction. You can buy lies. You never completely buy bullshit, which also suggests that if you are in the dark about certain things, or find yourself (like me) in unpleasant situations, you may just be willingly buying into them.
Time to put it back on the shelf, eh?
Absolutely, I love reading through your reflections! ...they resonate a lot, as in recent days I catch myself questioning my own reactions more and more. To the point where I am amazed about that self-reflection but also a bit exhausted by it:)
In the book I am reading right now he put's it in a way. That you choose your emotions to fit into the story that you build about yourself over the years... An interesting take on it I find. Leaving no room for excusing impulsive reactions with emotions.
And I have been wondering indeed, why we always want to be nice and liked by others. Maybe another part of it, next to that especially as woman that seems to be expected, could be also biological. Better be liked than eaten or something like that😅
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What book are you reading? It sounds insightful, I'd love to check it out!
Seems like a lot of us gals are on the same path, that makes it less exhausting at least, eh? 🤗
Oh, I’m not in the too nice group - you did see how I’m always frowned, all grim and negative about anything. Who would even talk to me like that! :)
Nah, it’s about respect in the first place, something too many people lack I guess.
No? Funny, in Graz you didn't seem like a bad person to talk to. Maybe you were a frowning Grinch in disguise?
Grinch it is! Imagine talking to me for like hours! Pfff!
Well, I'm sure there's other fairytale creatures who might enjoy talking to you for so long a fair bit. Just because the Grinch don't like Christmas doesn't mean he don't have friends :D
Like all those water spirits and creatures that abound in our folklore?
I thought you were scared of water spirits! Or was that just an excuse not to walk the bridge?
Nah, you said I was scared; I told you we went along great!
And we did. Both made it to our respective homes in one piece. I must've misunderstood. Figures you'd be friendly with water spirits. 🐟
Sure, especially with Vodník you might be familiar with from Rusalka by Dvořák - although the one of his is rather grouch.
Most Vodníks are cool, just hanging around and smoking a pipe (fire? well, yes).
Loved this read! How you covered the deeper aspects of what it means to be nice speaks to me here. My hubs often tells me to stop worrying so damn much about what people think and if I did the right thing and if and if and if... He reminds me that this behavior does in fact open the door for other people to behave badly, and even if our intentions are good we are still responsible for the outcome. It's a tough lesson, one I'm sure he'd rather not have to be the "jerk" to help me through...
I'm trying to do exactly what works for me, balanced with having a heart, and it's tricky. The things they teach us as women, the strong desire to be a light in a world that is unfair at best... It's hard to balance. Not being a victim and instead being at cause for everything you can is powerful though.
I see you 😎❤️
Ah yes, isn't that the tricky part for sure - embracing the lesson, but not the jerks that bring them :)) Your hubbie sounds wise. But then, we knew so already, no? I hope you're both well. Hugs.
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Ah, us woman are bred to please. It's less dangerous for us that way (arguably). Smile, be pretty, bend. And if we don't - if we establish boundaries, be firm, be clear and true, that doesn't always go down so well either. It's a fine line we tread, but it's darn good to question our behaviour. I know I've said this to you before, that is, a sentence that begins with 'the older you get...' but it's true. You start being a little more assertive. Refuse a little, if not a lot.
It bears repeating, for sure. And I'm definitely noticing this in my own life. I seem to have a lot less patience for things I would've easily taken in stride just a handful of years ago. Who would've thought so much could change in so little time.
We lie best when we lie to ourselves. :)
Ain't that the truth. It seems, like me, you have a reservoir of useful quotes and words of wisdom centered around deception and lying. The pragmatic side of us both there, for sure.
i think even my writing is mostly in quotes, mine or someone else 😄
and now thinking about it, to be honest, i don't have a lot of happy quotes stored in my memory 😂 a decent amount of those that make me laugh, so maybe a compensation :D
a weird thing, in two days you triggered a memory connected to one person, and what you wrote had no connection to him :D
"Greed and lust will doom them all" is a quote that i know it is on the 6th page, second to last paragraph, first sentence of a book that i have no idea of the title 😂
I should probably send him a message.
Also one interesting thing is why some quotes stick with us? And how stupid some of the reasons are :D