My Hive Fest Diary 3d: Day 1 Conference - @starkerz on Building the HBD Economy, 4 Takeaways

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A couple of years ago I came up with the idea of the "HBD Freedom Ladder," which is a series of targets - or "rungs" - on a ladder that take you all the way up to 120,000 HBD. When HBD was paying out 20%, that would have given you 2,000 HBD per month in interest payments. See my original post here: https://peakd.com/hive-119826/@hirohurl/the-hbd-ladder-to-freedom

The HBD Freedom Ladder gave me a clear "main objective" on Hive, and I didn't stop climbing the ladder just because the interest rate dropped to 15% - it's still a nice payout and would yield 1,500 HDB per month if you make it to the top rung.

This year, I've become interested in crypto-backed crypto loans for investing in crypto, and one of my aims at HiveFest 10 was to see if anybody was interested in developing Hive-based loans for investment.

So when @starkerz spoke about the growing role of HBD in the Hive economy, I sat up and listened carefully!

First, Starkerz reminded the audience of Hive’s origin: the community rejected centralization when Justin Sun attempted to buy control of the chain. That refusal led to the Hive fork, creating a base layer that is decentralized, neutral, and resistant to control. Every user gains the right to transact, publish, and build without needing permission.

HBD as a Base-Layer Stablecoin

Starkerz described HBD as a stablecoin directly tied to Hive’s base layer. Because Hive has no central authority, HBD is permissionless, fast, and free to transfer. It pays out 15% APR, and can be earned through on-chain activity, so ordinary users such as myself can obtain fresh HBD stablecoins by posting or engaging on chain.

In short, HBD is a viable, decentralized alternative to regulated, KYC-restricted stablecoins now emerging in the wider crypto space.

Building the HBD Economy

Starkerz highlighted several tools and developments driving this emerging parallel HBD economy:

1. CheckinWith - https://checkinwith.xyz/

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CheckinWith.xyz is a tool designed for live in-person onboarding at events or wherever a Hiver meets someone who wants to join the blockchain.

Process:

  • A trusted Hiver onboards a new user via a QR code scanning app developed by @stoodkev on Keychain. https://hive-keychain.com/

  • They take a selfie together.

  • The system creates a blockchain post, publishes the selfie and sends the newcomer 2 HBD instantly.

  • The V4V.App also sends them $1 of Bitcoin. https://v4v.app/

This process makes the onboarding experience fast and fun, and also rewards the new user with crypto almost immediately, while the first buzz of excitement is still there!

2. Distriator - Shopping with HBD https://distriator.com/

Distriator.com is a tool that enables users to spend HBD at participating brick-and-mortar businesses such as shops, cafes and restaurants. It pays a cashback when users post two photos of their purchases.

Distriator also rewards the person who onboarded the business everytime somebody spends HBD through the tool, AND it rewards the person who onboarded the user who spends HBD there.

There are now 414 businesses accepting HBD, up from zero a year and a half ago. Over 100,000 HBD has been spent through these businesses, all on-chain and without touching the traditional banking system.

3. Distriator Business Loans - A Step in the Right Direction!

This could be good news for those of us who miss the 20% APR on HBD! In the future it might be possible to lend liquid HBD to businesses on the Distriator platform and earn 20% APR.

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Example: “Happy Customer Supermarket” in Nigeria

Happy Customer in Nigeria was making about $500 a month in HBD sales, so the Distriator team lent the business 1,500 HBD to expand operations, and revenue grew sharply afterward.

Starkerz suggested that loans may be offered to more businesses that demonstrate clear HBD-based growth. I hope so, and also that opportunities for funding loans be opened up to HBD holders in due course...

4. The Hive Debit Card

He he, I wanted to get my hands on one of these during HiveFest 10... but first, what is the Hive Debit Card?

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I can do no better than give you Starkerz' own words:

This is the world's only decentralized payment system on a card. Every single other card, ... they all have custodial services. This is the only one that everyone in this room can create on their own phone right now without having to ask permission from me or anyone that created this system. This means that you can put your own business logos on these cards. You can create your own cards and distribute them to your own communities without asking permission from anyone. There is no custodian. Every time you tap to spend on these cards, it's peer-to-peer. There is no intermediary at all. No other card can say that in the blockchain world. The reason that we can say this is because of HBD. Because of the fearless decentralized nature of HBD and the lightning fast payments that it has. It's incredibly powerful.

Yep, anyone can create a card on their phone without permission by going to: https://hivedebit.com/

Future features include an iPhone app, offline payments, spending limits, and the ability to tap-spend either Lightning or HBD.

I was able to get hold of a physical card from @starkerz via @ninaeatshere on the last day of the Hive Fest:

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So those were my four takeaways from Starkerz' presentation. For the full performance and several other tidbits, watch the video:

Cheers!

DH
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Aren't we giving some Crypto-backed crypto loans already by delegating?
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Yes, indeed! I also like delegating to selected Hive projects. HBD loans are micro-loans for brick-and-mortar businesses that offer HBD as a payment option; another tool in the Hive toolbox!
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When they offer HBD as a payment option, why do they need than a HBD loan? !WEIRD !HUG !wine

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What if we reframe the question to give it perspective, like this:

  • When a shop offers fiat currency (USD for example) as a payment option, why do they then need to borrow USD?

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Those are nice and informative takeaways from @starkerz presentation. I believe the HBD loan will help businesses grow and expand more.

Thanks for sharing this useful information 👍

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You're welcome @kachy2022 - yes, HBD loans could help businesses grow and that could help the whole Hive community grow too.
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The spread of the adoption of HBD, HIVE, BTC, and just about any other crypto soon with VSC/Magi, is a glorious thing, and there were businesses accepting HBD more than a year ago in Cumana, Sucre State, Venezuela, because of the incredible work of the @hivesucre team. I really want one of those Hive debit cards. I love HBD, and your idea for your freedom ladder got me onto the same course. I am very concerned, however, with the present fiat price of Hive, because if it goes below $0.08, then the hairclip rule will likely kick in, interest for HBD in Savings will probably decrease again, and HBD could potentially lose peg with the dollar, which means that it could lose value. There are several people beginning to withdraw their HBD from Savings before that happens, to allocate it elsewhere. I pray that the price rises, even just a little bit. 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Yes, the VSC/Magi presentation came a bit later on the same day. I was happy to learn that they are renaming the project because I think it's easy to confuse VSC and V4V!

As for HBD, this site might be worth keeping an eye on: https://hbdstats.com/
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Indeed, I watched it on the livestream, though the recording. Not only V4V, but the VSC (Visual Shots Community) token as well!

Oh, excellent, I haven't seen that site before! Thanks a lot for the link, David! 😁🙏💚✨🤙

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Personally i think it is all a bit of a joke mate Hive is the most centralized controlled, decentralized platform i have ever come across.

People are literally being abused by a certain witness and his tools and everyone on this platform is either complicite or clueless.

Many members are being attacked with downvoting in the We are alive tribe for no reason.

This platform got rid of one usurper in steem it and replaced it with another in Hive.

Very few give a shit about others on the platform as long as they and theirs is OK.

Hive is not doing well first it needs to clean house inside and deal with the attacks from outside.

It won't you know cause it is decentralized and Hive handed usurpers a weapon in downvoting so Hive can be comntrolled.

You don't have to be even slightly smart to see what is happening unless people don't want to in my opinion.

Wishing you well though bro

Respect you @hirohurl


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Thanks for curating this post @benthomaswwd - I think I must fall into the "clueless" category as I wasn't aware of the We Are Alive Tribe drama.
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That physical card is amazing!!

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Yes, I was pleased to get hold of one. I haven't set it up yet. I think it's a good idea to create a separate account for it.
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