Off the meds from back issues, just waiting for time to heal all wounds

It was quite frustrating when I started to exercise again and then started having back problems after about a month. I don't know exactly what caused it and neither do the doctors but we think it might have something to do with an incident years ago where I fell on the stairs and landed and just the spot on my back that is bothering me now and I guess that makes sense.

When you are an expat though, you don't go to a doctor for every little thing that is wrong with you because between the language barrier and the fact that we often feel as though doctors here just give you the same cornucopia of pills no matter what your problems is (anti-inflammatory, very mild pain killers, anti-biotics) you don't really have a whole lot of faith that going to a doctor with a mystery problem is actually going to result in anything meaningful happening.

I actually DID go to a hospital about 3 weeks after busting my ass on the stairs but after having an interpreter kind of tell me what the doctor was saying, getting some X-rays done and talking to the doc through an interpreter, I got sent home with a mountain of pills and told to not move very much. That's not a solution if you ask me.


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To me that is scary to look at and I don't like that the MRI confirmed that this is actually what is going on in my lower back and there isn't really anything that can be done about it. There are surgical options for this but acccording to both the local doctors and the internet, surgery is not recommended in 90% of herniated disk situations and they will sort of heal on their own over time.

The bad news in my situation is that I was just starting to appreciate exercise and was making it a regular part of my days. I don't want to blame anything in particular, but after one day of trying to be a hero at playing pickleball, a sport that I actually really enjoy, well that was the day that I really started to notice just pain in my lower back but also running down one of my legs.

The visit to the doctor confirmed this and the scared me a bit with their temporary suspicion of cancer diagnosis that thankfully ended up coming back negative when more tests were done. I've never done an MRI where you had to have some sort of special chemical in your blood in order for it to work nor have I ever hand an ultrasound. They say that there is a first time for everything I guess.

So the way it is now is that I am still trying to exercise but am being quite careful as to how I do it. I am avoiding sports that are going to put any sort of jarring impact on my lower back and well, that is going to be just about anything that is an actual sport where you have to turn suddenly in order to chase a ball. This is a shame because to me those are the best sports.

I think the most effective thing I could probably do for my back would be to "rest" just like the doctor says but man, that's boring! I went on a rather long bicycle ride the other day and that was fun because I explored a part of the outskirts of the city that was actually quiet and trust me, that is a very special and very rare thing here in Da Nang. You have to ride quite a ways in order to get to the quiet, but it is there. I at times found myself surrounded by rice paddies and nice mountains in the future but of course, I didn't take any photos. Maybe next time!

Let me talk a little bit more about my last visit to the doc.

They and I wanted to get me off the medication and while I was initially worried that this would make me feel worse, we are now 5 days past when I stopped taking all medication and I do not feel worse... and this is good.


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I don't like living like this and I get upset when I fin
ally look up what the pills actually are online and find out that some of them are vitamins and others are things to keep my stomach from getting upset. I don't need a doctor for this.

I also don't like the idea of being "well" only because of some tablets. I don't want something that I am going to have to take forever to feel well, I want to feel well by default.

So this is why the doc and I decided to take me off the pills entirely.

I still take an ibuprofen every now and then if I start feeling not great or my back hurts because of some exercise, but that's about it. Oh and I will admit that I am taking Tramadol to quickly and effectively eliminate the one hangover that I have per week because of bowling.


I do want to make very clear that I thought the medical care at the Vinmec International Hospital was very good. I don't exactly have a ton of experience as far as hospitals are concerned, thankfully, but other than the fact that they make you prepay for everything it was extremely professional and fast. So if you are ever here and feel like you need some sort of medical intervention, I can recommend that place.

Now let's just hope that my spine decides to go ahead and heal itself.



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I didn't know Tramadol is good for curing hangover, I'm surprised. Where do you get it s it's not a simple drug you can buy it everywhere. I'm just curious, feel free to not reply.

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In countries with more strict pharmacies you would likely only be able to get it with a prescription. It is a dangerous drug because it is definitely addictive but I am not an addictive person so there's no worries about that with me. When I take it I can definitely feel the "high" that people probably get accustomed to but since I don't like being "high" in really any capacity (including being drunk) this is not a big factor for me.

When I was in both Thailand and Mexico, I was unable to get this drug in the drug stores without a prescription. In Vietnam they let you have just about anything you want.

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I hope you are able to get it all sorted out over time. The waiting is going to suck I know. Are you able to do Yoga or Pilates or something like that to maybe do some low impact strengthening of your core and flexibility?

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yeah I can do a lot of things. I go running, swimming, and cycling, even though the doc has said to not do those things: I was straight with her though and told her that I already sat around for nearly a month and I am not going to do that anymore.

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I'm surprised they don't want you swimming. That seems fairly low impact. I don't think I would be able to just sit around either. When I was dealing with my back and shoulder issues it was killing me the days I couldn't be downstairs working out.

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honestly mate, even though I got much better service / care than I was expecting since Vietnam isn't at all known for quality medical care, I kind of felt like these doctors have a set of blanket recommendations that they just give to anyone. Swimming has like zero impact and it didn't make sense for them to tell me to not do that. I feel, and think a lot of people would agree, that one of the best things you can do for yourself is remain physically fit so to me this sounded like terrible advice from the doctor. That's why I didn't follow it and wont do so

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Okay, that makes sense. Last time I hurt my back I made it a point to ask them about exercises I can do to help avoid it in the future versus just taking care of the pain now. It seems to be all about how weak my core is I think.

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Just take anti inflammatory when stiffness occurs and there is no need for anything else. You will know and you have to listen to your body.

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what's stronger than ibuprofen?

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I have no idea. I have a pain killer from the hospital that works like a bomb and need to check the name.

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well if you can remember to check I would appreciate that

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Tramasec is the tablet for pain relief. It may be under another name in Vietnam. I looked up and not sure if it is the same as Tramadol.

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I hope you feel better. My father had a herniated disk as well but he got surgery. It was a huge success and I'm happy to see him good as new now. That 90% statistic is really surprising; I didn't know that! His was really bad though. He had that specific leg pain that you mentioned except it would numb the leg, causing it to buckle. He almost had a very serious fall several times. Be careful!

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I was experiencing leg pain but not quite as extreme as what you are describing. It is strange to me that all of our body parts are affected by the spine. Thankfully I don't think I need surgery but I may in the future. I have no intention of becoming someone that just sits around so if I have to punish the spine to remain mobile, so be it.

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Now that you’re off the meds without feeling worse, that’s a good sign. That desire to heal naturally, or at least to manage things in a way that feels sustainable, makes a lot of sense.

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yeah I think so. Some days my back just doesn't feel right no matter how much stretching I do so on those days I take ibuprofen, but nothing else. In my family at least, ibuprofen doesn't really count as meds.

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Yeah, I get that. Ibuprofen is like part of the first-aid kit more than actual meds. Good that you’re able to manage it that way. Hoping your back keeps improving and those rough days get fewer!🤗

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I am so sorry to hear that. My hubby suffered from a spinal cord injury 15 years ago. He underwent laminectomy though. It was a long recovery process but we did it. Hope you feel better soon. Take care.

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well I am very happy I didn't have to do that... is he alright now?

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Yes, he's fine. Thank you for asking. Hope all is better with you, too.

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I'm sorry hear about your back trouble, but glad it is not the cancer they originally suspected. It sucks that you have to take a break from pickleball, as I also really enjoy the sport and would be bummed if I couldn't play. Luckily, you can still ride your bike and discover new places around your city. I remember going for a long bike ride up and around the Son Tra Peninsula in Da Nang. It was a really beautiful mix of forest and cool coastline views.

Also, I heard that acupuncture can help with herniated disc pain and recovery. Have you given that a try? I've never tried it, but perhaps it could help you heal faster.

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I really hope you get fully healed and back to feeling good by default without pills.

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