Testing Out Inleo with a Keystore File...
I noticed Dash's announcement from yesterday and then the Inleo AMA which was titled "Dash Launch Party!" and definitely wanted to dedicate some time to it today.
But plans don't always come out the way we want and I had a very busy day outside the online space.
I watched / listened to the AMA in a few breaks and I am still not even half way through.
But I was reminded during the AMA of the new signup / login method to Inleo (and indirectly, Hive) using a Keystore file, which is quite a common wallet used especially by long time users in crypto in various blockchains.
How does this work?
Effectively, Inleo creates a new full Hive account with the master password set to the seed phrase of the Keystore file. This is how the two are linked and how the keystore file and password can be used to log into the account AND sign other transactions without asking for permission at every transaction being broadcast (that's how keystore wallets work). Practically, any private key may be used on accounts logged in with keystore, at least in Inleo, since the seed of Keystore can derive any private key. But that won't work on other Hive apps, which don't have direct integration with Keystore.
That greatly simplifies the interaction with Hive (via Inleo) for someone who is not used to the 4 private keys system, but at a loss of a tiered security system provided by the multiple private keys.
For other apps, you'd need to use a classic method of broadcasting transactions like Hive Keychain, after adding the account with the private keys you want to it.
My Test
I created a new alt account (@gadrian-leo) via Inleo, using my Keystore file to test the new system. The onboarding process worked flawlessly for me, and they have improved it a lot, in a multi-step process where you set up some profile info and pick a few communities you are interested in. I assume a similar process is used if someone joins via a different route than Keystore. I also made my first (and only, for far) thread from the new account:
Note that I hadn't added my corresponding Hive account to Hive Keychain at that time, and the transaction went through based on my login via Keystore. There was no confirmation, I just hit "Thread" and it was sent and soon after received a reply too.
For posting and voting, I believe that's the best way to do it. In fact, we often allow (or not?) Keychain to send transactions requiring the private posting key without asking for permission every time. I still have my concerns about the "no confirmation needed" way of working with Keystore, in case of more sensitive transactions, like on Hive are the ones that require the active key, or even the owner key.
Dash
I don't have a Dash account, but I'm thinking to create one and maybe link it to the same keystore file. Basically, I want to see the Inleo skin for Dash. It shouldn't be too difficult, but everything takes time...
Last words
Seems like all parties involved, Inleo, Hive, and Dash, are doing well lately, price-wise. Looks like the markets agree...
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Cool stuff. I've not used Keystore, but this sort of integration could help more people to get into Hive. Obviously they need to understand the keys better once they have some funds.
I started using them on Thorchain. Nothing complicated. It surely allows many people from crypto to join Inleo easily, if they want to, and Inleo to target big communities where Keystore is used. First was Dash, but others will follow. Khal mentioned Maya and Thorchain next.
We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?
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On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe
On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues
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There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users
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it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content
We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions
Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content
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Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.
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I haven't tried using the keystore yet, and I will probably do the test you did with an alt account
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Right now, it's the only way to test it. You can't associate a keystore file with an existing Hive account. But Khal said in the AMA this might be an option in the future.
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I haven't used the keystore file much. Is it a good idea to use the same keystore for your dash account? I feel that it might not be the best security choice.
It may become an issue if it's a honey pot and scammers or hackers make anything in their power to get their hands on the file and the password (or the seed phrase). But for the amount of funds I have and plan to have access to using this particular keystore file, I don't think it would be worth the trouble, lol.
I don't think I have even used keystore, neither have I checked it out. I think since you won't be using owner's key, there wouldn't be need of there isn't confirmation for some transactions .
A confirmation might be useful when you send funds. But I guess people using mainly keystores are used to double and triple checking.
Well you have a point. Probably it's because I haven't used it at all.