I Am All In Favor Of Conscription
Personally being enlisted made me grow up for a young lad into a man very quickly. It is a harsh lifestyle change with cold showers when the fire buckets are frozen over, strict discipline, fitness regimes harsher than anything you have experienced combined with team work. There are no home comforts and there is nowhere to hide.
Over the last few months we have seen discussions on the topic of conscription in the UK. A good idea, but bad timing in my opinion as why the talk now because the war in Ukraine does not warrant conscription unless you have other ideas to escalate. The idea behind this move is wrong and it should have been something implemented years ago and not just for now. The UK should never have ended conscription back in 1960.
The army changed me for the better and even though you do not enjoy it at the time you are going to benefit for the rest of your life through the lessons learned. Those who have spent time in the military will know exactly what I am talking about. You become Government property for the time you are enlisted and for any future call ups. I did 2 years and another 3 years of camps until it was ended. Even now at my ripe old age I would assist if required because I know I can still make a difference and if trouble in any form broke out internally in the UK tomorrow I would be on the next flight. I do think anyone who has served would feel the exact same way and it is just how you think.
The woke ideology you see everywhere in the world today would not even be a thing because the youngsters would be enrolled in the military and those that refused would be imprisoned. That is the reality as there is no dodging conscription and includes everyone even if you have medical conditions. People learn discipline and respect so there is no thought of creating anarchy.
Conscription has happened before in the UK between 1916 and 1920 (WW1) and 1939-1960 (WW2). The UK would be very different if this had continued and had not been stopped because the thinking would have been so different. The obvious is the benefits to the youth making them physically and mentally fit with respect and discipline in how they act in life.
In 1997 I had a run in with youngsters on a bus trip when we were travelling to the SA Rugby match in Paris versus France. I would guess they were in their late teens or early twenties and most definitely had missed the army call ups by the way they were behaving. The disrespect they showed to other members on the bus was not tolerated and they were removed. I would rate them as big mouth pussies and when confronted with force they realised quickly they were in trouble and behaved. This would never happen if they had been to the military and why it is such a good thing for society as you learn how to behave in life. If you have not experienced this then you will not really understand the differences.
My dad was conscripted in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) even though he was on a work visa and he was in his mid thirties back in those days and it did him the world of good. The country was at war so everyone who was in the country and wanted to stay with those on visas were all included. Could you imagine those in the UK on visas being told to sign up or leave the country as you will quickly find out who is genuine or not and is seeking a future in the country.
The UK would have an extra 500K military personnel each year and within a 10 year period have 5 million extra troops to call on if required. Riots or uprisings in the country would be squashed immediately and we would not see the anarchy or woke left that we are witnessing today. The army are not the police and 10K protestors or rioters could be squashed with less than 1K soldiers being deployed.
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I do not agree with conscription. If a nation isn't able to raise a standing army of sufficient strength through its own virtue, depriving members of their freedom to serve a mandatory term within it doesn't make that nation any better.
I would have agreed with this maybe 20 years ago, but the way the world has evolved over the last decade society in many counties is being drawn into something far more sinister and conflicts will happen internally. Sadly I see no other alternative outcome.
The world is certainly changing, and the pace of that change is increasingly rapid, I definitely agree. However, I do not think "boots on the ground" is the most efficient form of conscription, which is what a lot of people think about when it comes to the term.
There's a lot of other roles that are required for a nation to function, and a return to protectionism and self-reliance for a lot of nations needs a lot more man power than what many established nations are contributing.
For example, Australia has a stockpile of fuel that would not last the nation longer than a few months. At the same time, it has no real capacity to refine oil, importing the vast bulk of it.
From my "Australian" perspective, Australia's manufacturing base would "benefit" from "conscription" far more than putting people through boot camp.
100% there is more required than just military and I wish there was more self reliance as that is a prime weakness right there. At least you have refineries because in SA they import diesel and petrol as final products because the 4 refineries we once had are no longer in service. If someone blocked the ports the country would come to a stand still within 4 weeks.
Its crazy. Even if you have a refinery, you still need the raw crude to make the fuel. According to a google search, Australia imports 83% of crude. So, in a situation where that import stream no longer exists, only a fifth of the mobility would be reasonably possible.
Pretty crazy. People need to walk more :D
I 100% agree with the draft.. but I also think college should be paid for 100% after..