Bitcoin 1 Million - Must read for everyone involved
About Fred and the Power Law
There was this guy I noticed on X one day. A Boomer from California, a guy who holds a Math PhD from Stanford, who made a fortune and has a highly potent network. This guy is a high stake Bitcoiner. Fred Krueger.
He began talking about this so called „Power Law“ last year, which is a math function, which describes the growth of nature, be it Stars or Trees. And this Power Law is obviously valid for the growth of Bitcoin too (Price, Hash rate, Number of Wallets) with an almost perfect statistic correlation of R^2=0.96 out of 1.00. This was discovered by an italian Mathematician, Giovanni Santostasi.
The Book
This Fred Krueger now wrote a book together with a collegue Bitcoiner - Ben Sigman - about BTC growing according the Power Law to a price of 1 Million a coin within the coming decade. Not as a speculative dream but as something that can be extrapolated with almost 100% statistical certainty, based on the data of Bitcoins‘ 16 year history.
The book examines the fundamental reasons behind this Power Law development - how BTC will get to 1M - and how a world might look like, when Bitcoin becomes that valuable. That is an especially captivating part of the book as it describes Bitcoin to grow as a parallel technology besides the fiat system in the coming years. The authors even think about the more distanced future in about two decades from now, when Bitcoin could fulfill Hal Finneys prediction back in January 2009: a price tag of 10 Million per coin.
Must read
Wether you are interested in the topic, own a few sats, or even invested big in Bitcoin, this book is a must read. It is very well written, profound yet still compact and approachable. It was a Bestseller the day it came out mid of this week. The future will show if things will really turn out that way but I think it is very likely. It all makes sense to me the way it is presented. Bitcoin will not replace Fiat currencies in the nearterm future or „kill them“. But it is the superior money technology that will make them obsolete step by step.
What do you think about the Power Law thesis for Bitcoin? Have you read the book yet?
Jo Thomas, super buchempfehlung! Ich bin sowas von der meinung dass btc weiter wachsen wird, und freue mich fast ein bisschen über den crash, den jetzt kaufe ich wieder haha, ich bin ebenfalls zurück auf hive, erstmal ein bisschen am kurieren und bald auch wieder am posten. Lieber gruss aus der Schweiz ✌️
Das freut mich Sandy, dein Hive Comeback! Hab mich tatsächlich schon paarmal gefragt wo du steckst. Was war los?
Was Bitcoin angeht bin ich mittlerweile auch sehr überzeugt davon, dass es sich durchsetzen wird. Erst als Store of Value, dann auch zunehmend als Zahlungsmittel. Nach und nach, nicht von heute auf morgen. Aber das ist gut für uns, so können wir schrittweise weiter Satoshi akkumulieren.
VG und die Schweiz!
Thomas
Yes henai do ist es haha
Ich war/bin das diplom zum psychosozialen Berater am erlangen was mich viel fokus gekostet hat, doch ich bin fast fertig mit der ausbildung und werde jetzt nach und nach wieder kapazität haben. Auch war ich mir nicht sicher ob ich das finanziell durchstehe weshalb ich vorsichtshalber einen power down gemacht habe um rücklagen schnell verflüssigen zu künnen. Dies war aber nicht nötig und ich freue mich nicht einen hive verkauft zu haben. Auch wenn das aus trader sicht wohl nicht so schlau war, aber ich bin echt kein trader haha
Verstehe. Dann viel Erfolg für die Abschlussprüfungen. Das machst du sicher. Und Welcome back auf Hive!🤝🏻
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If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
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If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
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To the downvoting racist old and young farmers You are a scammer a thief a criminal who is working for other criminals
⭕⭕⭕⭕⭕⭕👀
Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
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Hmm not as long as a tweet can crash it, also wars are unpredictable and those cause market shocks
Algún día llegará al millón y las personas que no compren en 100 k no se arrepientan 🥹
Don’t speak spanish, or is that portoguese?
Thanks for the review, I'll probably get a copy and read it. I've actually met Fred once and his views are at least interesting
You met this guy once? When was that and where?
A long time ago at an event in LA when he was running EOS Lynx
And you still remembered him from back then, this one time?
Yeah I've been seeing his name on various occasions in relation to Bitcoin and his books
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STOPR²=0.96 for Bitcoin’s natural growth? That’s not just correlation—that’s a bold claim saying BTC follows the same math as trees and stars.
But here’s the fundamental problem: Power Law assumes growth without external shocks. Bitcoin? Gets shocked multiple times yearly by regulations, exchange hacks, even a Trump tweet. If it’s truly natural, why did FTX throw it off the model?
The $1M-$10M prediction is exciting, but when Krueger says ‘BTC won’t replace fiat, it’ll run parallel,’ he’s indirectly admitting those external shocks will continue.
Real question: if Power Law actually works, why hasn’t any model explained the 80%- bear markets yet?
The volatility is not a contradiction to Power Law and it didn’t break through FTX or other crashes. See hörnte yellow support line held through all those years?
And the volatility will diminish over time, we already experience that. You also see it in the chart since the wedge is narrowing.
The Model is intact and I think its quite convincing.
https://charts.bitbo.io/long-term-power-law/
Nice chart, but what you’re saying is right is also the problem.
Yes, yellow support held through crashes. But every time price approached it, we had 80-90% drops. So when you say ‘Power Law’s intact,’ you’re saying we should expect to hit that line again?
You said volatility’s diminishing and wedge is narrowing. Agreed, but that shows BTC’s maturing into a traditional asset. If that happens, the exponential growth Power Law promises stops making sense-because volatility and exponential growth come together.
Real question: if BTC’s calming down, how can it simultaneously follow a natural power law that’s inherently exponential?
Power Law doesn‘t mean exponential growth. In fact it means diminishing returns. APR is about 40% now and will go down over the years.
So you’re saying the model’s right, but it’s no longer exponential—just a declining curve with less volatility.
If APR’s dropping from 40% down, why still call it Power Law? Sounds more like maturity curve than natural growth.
How do things in nature grow? Does a tree get higher and higher? They don’t grow exponentionally. They grow fiest very fast and then less and less. Power Law is a mathematical function that reflects that. In fact the Term „Power Law“ is a bit misleasing.
Exactly. The Power Law doesn't describe exponential growth, but rather the natural transition from rapid expansion to sustainable maturity.
Bitcoin's declining APR isn't a failure of the model – it's the model working as intended. Volatility decreases as foundational strength increases.
That’s what I meant.
Power law is intact as Long as we don’t break the lower yellow line and don’t see the Chart turn parabolic.
In fact we could see the lower yellow line be tested during a real Bear market but we don’t necessarIly have to touch it. Could Turnaround earlier.
You are both right. Historical support is a powerful pattern, but past performance doesn't guarantee the future. The Power Law indeed suggests diminishing percentage returns over time.
Ultimately, these models provide a framework for probabilities, not certainties. Success hinges more on risk management and a long-term perspective than on precise predictions.
I doubt we go below 80K
But one thing is true, as I see markets (stock indexes & such) give signal of issues, Bitcoin has never had a 2008 to deal with yet, march 2020 we saw Bitcoin drop 55% in 25 hours but all the central banks of the world printed and the 40% down stock indexes all boomed higher like a v so we haven’t had a long real deep recession & stock crash since bitcoins creation. I believe Bitcoin may go down and next bear cycle can be triggered by a situation like this, sorta how FTX sped up when alts & bitcoin bottomed in 2022, it likely would of been 2023 but the action took crypto down faster than was likely timing wise. We shall see, Maybe we see the bull cycle high end up 126K if that happens soon. Still not bad performance but we are only a few weeks from November & the top has always been November or December the year after having (2013/2017/2021) so maybe we top early. I was thinking more likely the timing was off other way and we could see a January or February top instead. We shall see! But the move from 126K to 100K is normal. We went down 33% 3 times in 2017 before making cycle top of 19K & twice in 2021 before making high of 69K for cycle high so a correction to 95K say, that’s not weird at all and easily we go to 150K or 170K for cycle top. But a real deep recession would push Bitcoin down short term as is normal for it to sell off as it’s only thing liquid after hours & on weeks generally speaking. I remember the market crash 8/5/24, and Bitcoin went down 20% day b4 on Sunday signaling people selling to cover margin calls when the Yuan carry trade broke and stock indexes were predicted to crash. Ended up only being a bad week not a correction iveralll but that’s also when hive bottomed to .1488 which we only now have broke. So hive is lower now than when Bitcoin was 49K.
Bottom line, Bitcoin looking just fine. But personally believe only thing that can make it too early is a deep recession and stock crash of 30%
So a real one like tech crash, 2008 and so on. Either way Hive will go way lower and crypto space continues to separate & finally not go up all together which long term is good & we needed.
I explain better in audio. I will discuss this in my Week-End market vlog tomorrow!
Thanks for the detailed response, Gene.
If Hive goes below 5 Cent in Bear Market I might push for Orca Status and buy the remaining HIVE for it. ✊🏻
Heck why not! I suppose could say if it can go to 5 cents why not a penny.
Or
Whales will prop up at a certain low market cap point so might as well back up the truck & buy buy buy!
I can see both arguments. Personally I believe what matters is if we are at .07 and nothing changes, nobody with power says ok this is a red flag, we must change how we do things in DHF & a few other things. That would be concerning! But I’d buy back some I sold much higher to speculate at least.
I was lucky to sell above $2.00 in 2021 what I bought at .09 in 2020 so that gives me the mental view it’s house money. I do hope when we dip lower the powers that be make changes to help stop it. The whales can out vote all of us average users combined so it’s there choice. Do they keep milking the DHF among other things? Or do they say it’s time for change and and save Hive, we shall see! !PIZZA
Great result 20x back then. 💪🏻
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