RE: How big is Israel's military really? Hint: Wikipedia is WRONG!
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Israel did not build ANY of the tunnels connecting to Shifa Hospital. It build an underground floor as was standard in any Israeli hospital of the period.
Hamas expanded it and connected it to a massive tunnel network of 1000s of kms.
This article you link to is an example of twisting the truth to suit an agenda. It is not journalism. It is Hamas propaganda.
The "cycle of violence" was perpetuated by Israel failing to completely destroy terrorist groups over the last 30 years and adopting a "mowing the grass" approach of trying to manage terror.
Oct 7 showed this is a failed strategy and so now you will see that if you kill every terrorist and their family then the cycle of violence will end.
Peace is achieved through total victory, not concessions and half measures. Are Germany and Japan threats today?
Are Chechnyans a threat to Russia anymore? Indeed their defeat was so total that they have been co-opted by Russia and are their most fierce troops in Ukraine.
Are the Tamil Tigers a threat to Sri Lanka anymore?
The West has forgotten how to win wars.
Israel is showing them how its done. But many or most Westerners have become so weak, woke and squeamish that they no longer have the balls required.
The Gaza Strip is a humanitarian crime somewhere on the spectrum with the US tribal reservations and the Warsaw ghettos. The solution to terrorism is to stop forcing people from their homes, stop preventing them from developing independent utilities, stop cutting them off from trade, and in general stop treating them as second class citizens in their own homeland. October 7th was the inevitable tragic blowback following decades of abuse.
There is no moral or rational supremacy in victory through violence. Your analysis collectivizes innocent people with criminals, and your calls for total war are not courage or strength, but true cowardice and hatred.
If all Israelis cannot be held accountable for the actions of the government of Israel in spite of universal conscription and an active democracy, then it is downright absurd to insist all Palestinians but be punished for the actions of a terrorist organization without even a veneer of political legitimacy. Remember, the Palestinians were there first, and the militant wing of Zionists invaded them. The conflict is not Arab versus Jew, or Muslim versus Jew, it is between an indigenous people and a foreign occupier.
Christmas is about celebrating the Prince of Peace. Your rhetoric indicates you worship Mars instead. We can't continue the cycle of destruction.
Israel made many attempts for peace, people of Gaza are being cynically used as human shields for a terror base, by Iran, and even by Egypt who signed peace agreement with Israel but its a cold peace.
Israel gave entire Sinay back to Egypt, and Egypt refuse to take Gaza. The left is as a terror base close to Israel. Now they are closing the gates and don't let Palestinians leave Gaza. Israel is responsible to defend its nation. Letting people from Gaza and Genin work in Israel while they kill us is absurd. Why can't the people of Gaza work in Egypt? Why they prefer to come to Israel? The gates of Israel should be closed and if Egypt care for the Palestinian children they should take them instead of sending oil to Hamas missiles.
Some points to think about.
Why can't the people of Gaza return to their homes, their family farms, their ancestral villages? Just answer me that.
Because they raped, killed and burned Israelis.
And they abducted children, women and men and supported these horrors.
You need more reasons?
All residents of the Gaza Strip did this? They all bear collective guilt because some were driven to terrorism?
Here in the US, we have people who think US history with Japan began on Dec. 7th, 1941 or history with the Middle East began on September 11th, 2001. Israel's history with Gaza did not begin on October 7th, 2023.
All of Japan was not guilty of Pearl Harbor or the atrocities committed across the Pacific Islands and China. All of Afghanistan was not responsible for Al-Qaida flying jets into the Twin Towers. All of Gaza was not responsible for flying over a wall to murder civilians, and Israel's response has escalated tensions instead of bringing peace.
Not all Gazans did this. There are about 30% poor people there, about 600,000 people that should be safe (unlike 600,000 innicent Assad murdered in Syria). Israel can't save them while Hamas firing missles behind these poor people. I hope Egypt will come to its senses and take away those poor people especialy kids that should not be in a war zone. But for some reason Egypt is not opening its gates besides to fuel Hamas.
Turkey and Egypt took 22 million refugges from Syria. Europe took 8 million refugees from UA. But for some reason even Iran refuses to save 0.6 million people from Gaza. That is indeed terrible.
Why should Egypt or Iran take them in? Their homeland is in Palestine and territory claimed by Israel. This is like saying after the US conquered the homelands of native tribes that Mexico and Canada should have felt obligated to accept the displaced people. The premise you offer is absurd.
Gaza is a microcosm of the old adage that if trade cannot cross borders, armies will. Let Gaza be truly independent. Let them have ports and trade. When people can build real prosperity, the appeal of mindless violence diminishes. Half the population is under 18, so we could be only a generation away from peaceful coexistence if people are no longer given reasons for hate and fear.
I respected your previos comments but as the author of the post accurately understood you are not making rational points but taking a side. While its your choice I would advice to be more objective when you communicate with someone who knows the situation first hand, we see and hear the missles. We hurt the dead. You make arguments thousands of miles away, you want to be good, thats understandable, but you are to far to understand and you are missing the opportunity to listen to first hand, prefering to make second hand arguments. Be safe in the US and may god bless you.
My side is the oppressed, regardless of what their rulers or countrymen did. Objectively speaking, the Palestinians have been pushed out of their homes for decades and denied all the necessary aspects of independence. This does not justify terrorism, but it explains the mounting desperation which fuels hate. If you can understand why rockets create fear in Israel, surely you can understand airstrikes and artillery bombardment are orders of magnitude worse in an impoverished region like Gaza.
The thing is, what the holocaust showed the jews, and what Assad lately prooved again, while the people of the world say the are siding the oppresed. They usualy do nothing to realy help them.
No one helped the jews in the gaz chambers, so the survived fought their way to a nation. No one stops Putin and Assad and no one will stop Iram and extreme Islam when they will turn their Jihad towards the Jews. So while I care much and held same opinions as you do on Oct 6, after Oct 7 I dont have the privillage to care for Palestinians. And when Jihad will turm its eyes on you, I guess your progressive mind will also change. I wish it won't, I fear it will.
Also thanks for the genuine interest and the last reply after my emotional backlash on you.
Here is a post that might put light on the sad effect of of Oct 7 on my perspective
https://hive.blog/israel/@amirl/i-am-truely-woke
Here are some facts that suggests we fight for our existance:
I don't want our women raped and babies burned to get pitty from the world. I rather fight and live with bad reputation. If you realy care for the palestinian lives you should support humane solutions like transfer to Egypt because any other solution is fueling war as you corrctly mentioned.
Have you ever been to Gaza? Have your visited the many high end shopping malls and fancy car dealerships, particularly in the Rimal neighbourhood?
You are completely ignorant and your worldview of oppressed vs oppressors is perverted and idiotic with no basis in reality.
Gazans were only oppressed by Hamas. Gazas had a higher standard of living than most Muslim Arabs before Oct 7.
The homeland of Arab Gazans is Arabia. They should go to Yemen.
They may be culturally Arab, but until a century ago, they wereunder Ottoman rule, and their ancestry comes from across the Levant, including Jews. Why should they go anywhere else, or to Yemen in particular?
Almost all Gazans would have raped, murdered and taken hostages if they had the opportunity, just as all the ones that had the opportunity did in Oct 7.
There is not one Gazan resident that publicly criticised Hamas for Oct 7 before Israel made them pay dearly.
There were no counter protests to the massive public celebrations of rape, murder and hostage taking that happened on the streets of Gaza.
You are right
Yes, all the residents of Gaza bear responsibility because they supported and protected Hamas and because non-Hamas Gazan "civilians" also raped and murdered and took hostages. Also they returned escaped hostages to Hamas.
They are far more guilty and responsible than the German people were for the Nazi crimes (and the Germans were guilty and held responsible).
Half the population is under 18. Of those over 18, no one under their mid-30s was eligible to vote in the last election in 2006. Of those who could vote in the last election, less than half who did vote actively supported Hamas. Collective guilt is irrational in Gaza now, and was irrational in Germany and Japan then.
By your own arguments, all Israelis are guilty of every act by the government of Israel against the Palestinians. You are justifying Palestinian terrorist retaliation in your own logic.
Because they have no such ancestral homes. They are just foreign invaders of Jewish land that became refugees and then created the most evil society of serial killers (as @amirl has outlined).
In what way are they foreign invaders, pray tell?
You speak of Christmas in one sentence and deny the entire Christian bible in the next!
Jesus was a Jew living in Roman occupied Judea.
Have you ever even read the Christian Bible?
Jews are the indigenous people of the land of Israel.
This is an indisputable fact proven by every bit of literary history and archeology and genetics.
The "palestinians" are Arabs from the Arabian peninsula.
They are not native and didn't even exist 150 years ago before Jews started bring back prosperity to the land.
This is proven by numerous American visitors to The Land of Israel who wrote about this. The most famous was Mark Twain.
Gaza is just where Egyptian forces invading Israel in 1948 were stopped. Almost all its people were refugees from elsewhere and still hold on to this status 75 years later.
So the Jews were there first (3350 years earlier) and the Arab "palestinians" are the foreign invader.
Your entire approach to this topic is informed by complete lies and illogicality.
This skit puts it best https://x.com/Eretz_Nehederet/status/1739768987913801930?s=20
Yes, Jesus was a Jew living in Roman-occupied Israel. The rest of your argument does not follow, either historically, rationally, or theologically. If you read the teachings of Christ, you might notice what He said about "the least of these." And if you prefer just the Old Testament, who was there 3351 years ago?
The Palestinians are people of mixed Levantine ancestry and Arab-influenced culture. They did exist in the region. It was not a "land without a people," it was a territory administered by the Ottoman empire for centuries under essentially a Feudal system, where like Norman England, the existing landholders were converted into tenants by taxation and conquest. The people of Gaza are refugees from land taken by Israel in 1948 and subsequent actions since.
The Jews were there 3300 years ago, and they were never ethnically cleansed. The Palestinians descend in part from Jews who remained in Palestine, and the majority of whom assimilated into Arab/Persian/Byzantine/Ottoman cultures over the centuries. Orthodox and Samaritan Jewish communities even remained.
Would I be justified in returning to the land my paternal or maternal ancestors left barely a century ago, choosing a home, kicking out its residents, and asserting it was "reclaiming my homeland?" No. Of course not. It would not matter if the people I displaced were more, less, or not even slightly of the same culture. It would be a crime regardless.