The Daily Meme #826!
IF there are no bad posts, only bad curation, what then?
Should downvotes only apply to curation rewards?
Should downvotes first apply to curation rewards, and when those are gone, then apply to author votes?
Should downvotes have a toggle back and forth?
Only taking curation rewards, or author rewards, as the curator deems appropriate?
Years ago, when I first got here, 'we' used to have these discussions all the time.
The last few years have been spent in a dismal haze as far as prescriptions for what ails us.
It's just been a holding pattern waiting for what is decided on high to be revealed to us.
Are you are tired of paying your masters to bomb children in far away places?
Perhaps it is time you pushed back on that.
A simple way that anybody can do that is to hoard your coins.
The fed buys coins at face value from the mint.
A dollar of change in your pocket is a dollar of value out of the banksters' pockets.
Stop playing in their shell game that allows them to play in the amusement parks from hell and shop in the human grocery stores.
What is '50% more reap'?
Also, I'll agree to almost anything that reduces financial incentives to curate, as such incentives replace actual curative interest with mere financial avarice, which deranges curation and degrades Hive marketing. I prefer curation rewards simply go away. They are not only useless, being unnecessary to convince people to upvote content they like as myriad platforms without any financial incentive to upvote content have continually demonstrated since Steem advented, but are counterproductive, and actually harm curation, as Trending reveals.
Thanks!
I think it's the love of money that makes trending what it is.
Greedy folks gonna greed.™
IF we keep changing the rules to suit ourselves soon we will have no game to play.
We've already reduced most of the gamification.
50% more reap refers to the fact that nobody really ran their mana down below 50% because it was voting intensive, now they can easily vote it all and only play the game one day in five.
This will increase volatility in the rewards.
While also allowing access to 50% more stake than yesterday.
You can already play the game 0 out of 5 days through delegation, autovotes, and curation trails.
Yes, and now one's lackeys need only show up one day in five.
What wasn't happening before was accessing that last 50% of one's hp.
Nobody not here just for the money needed this change.
You're just making stuff up show me these accounts and the change in the behavior.
Nothing is going to change these bots are already programmed and there's no reason to change them to do the kind of stupid shit you're assuming they will. There are still bots that vote at the 5 minute mark from 5 years ago. Change is slow. No one is being incentivized to do less work than they were already doing. Doing the work was always optional.
Look at their voting mana, those lower than 50% are proof.
Should be pretty easy to pull that number.
Might take a while for folks to notice and change their behavior.
But, this is an easy metric to track.
I vote 20 times a day.
Now my vote power is 0%.
Behavior didn't change.
Sorry do you want behavior to change or not I can't tell from these responses.
If you could go ahead and name one single hardfork change you agreed with that would be great because I'm beginning to suspect these are automatic contrarian takes.
I was all for the poor tax being repealed.
'Memba that?
This curation change was not needed, people were doing just fine.
Who asked for it, and why was it not openly discussed before the proclamation as a fait accompli?
Like I said, easy metric to track.
Care to do the honors of pulling the numbers from before the fork so we have a baseline from which to argue?
Ah man the poor tax yes that does sound familiar which one was that again?
Poor tax is not how I remember it but the analogy is apt iirc.
Kinda surprised you're more vocal about this issue than 26% reduction on inflation that's a goliath change vs what we are talking about here.
I understand pulling the dao out of the inflation numbers, which does seem to be a larger impact, what my real problem is with the lack of 'community' input.
I think it's great when peoples' mana gets to 100% because they don't have time to play by the proof of brain rules.
This change breaks that concept.
One more step away of the genius of the original design.
Not that I thought the 160+% inflation was the greatest of ideas, I would have liked to see it given more of a chance.
I also miss the two payout windows.
Yes when changes like this go into effect and people like me don't even know about them until the day of the hardfork it's pretty bad. Although that's also what we signed up for: a kind of digital republic where money has the vote instead of people. Hive purposefully outsourced these changes and the ability to make them directly to the witnesses. It's an interesting experiment to be sure.
The interesting thing is that our success depends a lot more on third party builders than it does with the core group in charge. I still need to look into all the layer 2 stuff that's been put in place.
The poor tax explained.
These changes were brought to us by the same folks that gave us the poor tax.
Any more questions about my suspicious nature?
I'm to the point of saying we are still in beta, expect changes out of the blue.
Beta... indeed.
Sometimes I feel like Hive witnesses should all be full on companies that all have custom internal governance structures.
Once we get the incentives right, that could well happen.
Ah yes the convergent curve it all feels like a fever dream.
Guess I'll have to look at my own posts on that to remember exactly how that went down.
The rhetoric early was that as more people joined, the stake would become more widely distributed - but that didn't happen because DV's were used to drive people from the platform, enabling ~36 whales to continuously maintain a bare majority of stake to this day.
We were bamboozled.
I did vote my mana down. That's why I reduced my vote weight to 25% years ago, so that I could vote more without depleting my vote mana - and I still depleted my mana until I exceeded the dust threshhold too often.
I think downvote is harmful to the community if used intentionally.
Well yes, if you don't care for curation you just drain votes to zero and call it a day until it recharges...
Let's just obsolete that tool. It's dangerous (promoting psychopaths to the top) and archaic (We have the tech...and They keep it hidden). Then, We will not worry about all the technicalities that come with it.