RE: Hive morning chats: The idea of curating people

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Yes, this happens quite naturally I think and autovotes also work well for this until good people become lazy maximizers, hence it's up to curators at some point too to make sure a lot of rewards aren't being farmed in different ways.

Ask yourself how many of authors who may post daily and often get autovoted ever forfeit any rewards or downvote themselves if they feel they got overrewarded.



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Addressing the Downvote Issue on Hive: It’s Time for Real Change

Let’s cut through the noise and address one of the most pressing issues holding Hive back from reaching its full potential: abusive downvotes. The Bipcoin team has consistently exposed the systemic problems that stifle growth on this platform, yet little to no action has been taken. If Hive is to thrive, we must confront these challenges head-on instead of engaging in empty discussions that lead nowhere.

Hive cannot grow if nothing changes. How can new users and smaller creators flourish when they are constantly suppressed by those who exploit the system? Many so-called “whales” contribute nothing meaningful to the ecosystem—instead, they focus solely on farming rewards through manipulative tactics like mass self-voting, spam content, or coordinated downvoting campaigns. These actions discourage genuine participation and erode trust within the community.

Blockchain transactions don’t lie. We’ve seen firsthand the shady methods used to game the system—whether it’s creating alt accounts to amplify votes, orchestrating downvote brigades, or hoarding influence without giving back to the network. Why does this behavior continue unchecked? Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words, and until concrete steps are taken to address these abuses, Hive will struggle to move forward.

We have repeatedly presented evidence of these practices, not to divide but to demand accountability. The truth is out there for anyone willing to look at the data. Yet, despite our efforts, the cycle persists. Today, we’re asking again: Can we finally talk about the real issues plaguing Hive? And more importantly, can we take decisive action to protect the integrity of this platform?

Do not let bullies destroy what makes Hive special. Abuse of power through downvotes and manipulation harms everyone—creators, curators, and the community as a whole. It’s time to fight back against these toxic practices and create an environment where all voices can be heard and rewarded fairly.

The Bipcoin team remains committed to exposing the truth and advocating for meaningful change. But we can’t do it alone. Together, let’s push for solutions that ensure Hive becomes a place of opportunity, fairness, and growth—for everyone.

Enough talk. Let’s see action.

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  • Steals from creators.
  • Centralizes power.
  • Normalizes abuse.


The blockchain doesn’t forget—your actions are permanently recorded. So, enjoy your scam farm snacks now, because karma always delivers the bill.

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This is why I think autovote decay would help this. It happens, I admit it 100% - there are accounts with $14, $15 dollar posts with no comments. But, and I will say this too. It doesn't really mean the post is shit, it could also mean the writer is not good at networking.

All this to say. It's not so clear cut. In my opinion it has to be analyzed. Like you've done. Without looking under the hood, we can't really know what's actually happening.

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What about the users not abusing autovotes? Why should they get penalized if they're continuing to contribute for the votes?

Just downvote. It's quite simply, place them on autodownvotes if they don't do better, then look back after a while to see if they improved or fucked off.

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There are many ways to skin a cat I guess.

But as you and I have discussed, there's a political cost to a full on confrontation too.

I'm sure you've heard a version of this saying at some point in time.

"He who enjoys tempting a thief is guilty of his own demise"

We currently have a system that is probably too tempting for thieves. There are people who probably say to themselves.

"Well, if I don't take advantage of this, I'm a dumbass"

I'd say in the name of being more effective. Any improvement we make to not make cheating too easy, is a good thing to do.

I'd go as far as to say, at this point, given the number of accounts who are ghost transacting. Keys are long gone, people are dead even, as we know.

If all that stake stopped moving, that along would move the reward pool assignation in others of magnitude above and beyond what any of us alone would achieve downvoting an abuser.

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